What the hell happened to music???

The dark side of syndicating, I guess so...
Some of them are using the rules of jungle... Listen that, don't listen that, or I will kill you?
Of course, that is not always the case, but, there are a lot of criminal groups and gangs calling themself syndicates...

I like alcochol drinks, but I am not drunk... I can drink, but I can stand without it, for months, even forever...
I like tobacco products, too, but I never had a chance to try chewing tobacco, I would like to try it... I watched that in movies, and read in novels... I am not the 'crucider'...
We watched this here in Yugoslavia, when I was a kid...

Anyone in here who is talking about Skrillex and dubstep and implying that that is the best any electronic music has to offer is seriously ignorant. It's like someone asking you what a really great example of American music is and you say 'Christina Aguilera' because she has been really popular. Seriously, investigate genres before you start spouting off ignorance just because you don't like how it sounds.

Dubstep sounds like video game music from the 80's, but with higher fidelity instead of 8-bit chips.

I've always been partial to heavier rock music, but not the trash that Clear Channel and the corporations shove down the masses throats.

There are still some diamonds in the rough out there, just not signed to major labels because the music industry is ruined, not music itself.

One reason i can't stand Skrillex is because young kids abuse it to much and think he is the best. Underground dubstep is much better .

Yeah in all honesty that's what they're doing just pressing keys on a keyboard and layering tracks over each other. Nonetheless I want you to try and produce music because the songs that have been coming out are so complicated. I use fl studio to produce my own music and my stuff is complete # compared and still my songs are pretty good, ive been playing with it for about 8 years now. It is a lot more than just layering tracks but has to do with about a million synthesizers each with all sorts of knobs that control volume, pan, gate effects, pitch you name it there is a knob and a graph that shows you the noise its making, on top of that you have what are called vsts which add even more spunk to the product. To make the sounds and instruments used in edm (Electronic dance music) it really is like playing an instrument, I play guitar too and I can honestly say learning to use lets say ableton which is what skrillex uses a lot and a bunch of other edm artists use, is a lot more difficult and for sure has a much longer learning span. You can make some very complicated tracks on your computer and yeah that's all your doing is playing on your pc but seriously there is a lot that go into these music producing programs. Check out greyhound by Swedish House Mafia, and try use the sythesizer to make the main lead they use, even though its only a few different notes spanning 8 beats, creating that catchy sound is the difficult part because 99% of the time when you mess with the synthesizers your sound turns into garbage that hurts the ears. btw If anyones going to ultra in miami hit me up Peace and love

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You claim you like less mainstream stuff, well everything you posted is mainstream

Originally posted by Thecakeisalie

You know what happened to the music, is you got old.

Using that logic, I'll be a grumpy old fart by forty.

My point is that there are many good, talented bands or artists out there that are being drowned out by talentless corporate flag bearers, who's talent extends no further than the length of my pinky.

Get off your backside and look for some new music that excites you, there's plenty out there.
Does it matter if it's popular... seems you need others validation for things you like.

Mumford & sons, Bruno mars - lol, seems more like you hate music.

I admire the way you sugar-coat your sacrasm, well-presented ;+]

The music you discuss isn't the only msuic, as i know you're aware.

There are many people making what you and i would agree is good music, every modern category of music there has been is still alive. People are still playing Ancient Roman music.

So don't get too down about it


QV.

Originally posted by Thecakeisalie
This is my first rant, so I'm going to make it a good one.

On other sites I've read of this 'Skrillex' character. He seems popular, so I checked him out on youtube. Apparently what he creates is called 'Dubstep'

And what it heard disturbed me.

Basically all I heard was the sound of a dozen fax machines vomiting to the beat of a drum machine. I admit it was a catchy tune, if you enjoy hearing 'schrreeech-grrrrght-squeal-rowwwl-tisssch-boom.'

Is this a new thing? I thought it was bad enough for modern 'musicians' to sample ( plagiarize) older classics, while singing what can loosely be described as lyrics.

But I sympathize with these modern day pop stars. It must be hard to press buttons on their laptop to insert drum loops and sound FX's, and let's not forget the hard work of the voice modulators that make these pop stars voices coherent.

I thank God, Yoda, etc for these stellar musicians. I know the really talented bands practicing day in day out are rooting for all the Keshas and Chris Browns, who's three days of hard work has really paid off. And what great role models they are as well.

I can't wait till these pop stars release acoustic versions of their greatest hits, of course they'll need to consult a dictionary to find out what acoustic means before they can do it.

I pray that this music is not a part of the music curriculum taught in school. I might seem like a grizzled old burnout, but the truth is I'm 28, and I play an archaic instrument known as a 'guitar'.

All joking aside, I hate what popular music has become. You don't need to know how to sing or play an instrument anymore, It turns out the Buggles 'video killed the radio star' was the most accurate prophecy ever predicted.

Am I right or am I jaded?

edit on 9-2-2013 by Thecakeisalie because: (no reason given)

Good Music still exists..Your opinion of good may differ from others.So just enjoy listening to what you like.No point in Slating what is popular or what the other people like.. I personally enjoy all kinds of music Skrillex,Deadmau5 or be it Mumford and sons.








AND THIS SONG by SKRILLEX IS KIND OF CATCHY....CMONN NOW

And still I am trying, but I have had an epiphany that helps explain part of why I am having trouble getting into the dubstep thing.... To me it sounds like what is supposed to be beneath the music. It feels like it's missing the top layer.

Another member posted a few pages back about how music is an emotional expression and that, therefore, all music is valid. I agree with this largely. IMO some music is produced without passion - and purely by formula... this type of music never hits me in the *oomph* spot.

Might there be any really emotional dubstep out there that feels like it has more layers to it?

~Heff

love the hair metal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! m/

Originally posted by cody599
It get's worse
I write songs for Cody time it relaxes me.
I just mess around with my thoughts and my guitar. Mrs C loves it (even in my times of frustration looking for the next line or chord or how to take it to the bridge) , I reckon the difference is life experience Justin B

a song should be from the soul not the record label. Oh dear showing my age.
The best songs are written in moments of pain or joy. If there's no real emotion there's nothing to express. Cue the boybands.

I love the 70 and 80's music. I especially love that era of love songs. Going to get a little deep now. Why do we listen to love songs, is it to full fill something where looking for. I thank of that song "looking for love in all the wrong places" Maybe theirs more to it all.

Originally posted by coop039

I know different generations always disagree about music, but todays stuff has no creativity.
And Skrillex is just horrible. In fact, I am amazed how these "DJ's" are considered so talented.

that's because you're choosing to compare extremes to get the result you want



>>>>>>> Bohemian Rhapsody

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I know, it's because I don't know the names of all the underground dubstep artists out there because I have a hard time finding them.
I've been to a number of underground dubstep clubs which plays some great dubstep but I don't know who they are by. And when I listen to albums that claim to be dubstep it is just dreadful cheesy remixes and not what I am looking for. It really is annoying.
Your links have helped me out though.
I will use them to explore further.

Nothing has changed it's just harder to sift through all the corporate mainstream drones they push.

I watched the Grammy's last evening and even the sucky boyband drone Justin Timberlake sounded good, but what do I know.

How about the Black Keys? They were the best performance at the last night.

I love electronic music. Personally I'm not a fan of Skrillex. I wouldn't let his particular flavor of e-music put you off to the many genres of it. Maybe you'd like Daft Punk, I love em.





The second one is a live concert of theirs. They are some pretty cool cats.

Edit to add: They also did the entire soundtrack to Tron: Legacy

Ok, I understand your point completely, from an English point of view, lease, never refer to Skrillex as "dubstep" skrillex has commericalised the s*** out of dubstep, you think of it as those screeching noises and what not, but original dubstep, which hails from the great nation of England... is a mix between 2 of the most loved genres in music ever... Dub and 2 step garage... first off as an avid mixer, producer and DJ there is a big difference between "skrillex" and real dubstep... I beg you to please do some research on the whole genre... Skrillex is the most lames most irritable n** I think i've ever come across and listened too.. Yes some people will like his music, dubstep's been around for about a year in the states... but it originates as far back as 1980 and 90's here in England, just because an American artist has commericialised it doesn't take away from the true beauty of the underground scene of Dub, Garage, Dubstep, Drum and bass and many others... Skrillex will not be around for long, it's just a fad some people are going through, there are many people here that follow the music scene of Dub and DnB and Dubstep very avidly and literally not one will listen to Skrillex, I agree it's all just noise.. try find some real Dub and Dubstep and come back and comment, is you still wish to then place your opinion i'll except it as all people have taste, but think it's just the "new generation" it's been around for around 30 years here.

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Music is always evolving and being adapted to satisfy the neophilic cravings of each new generation.
The themes of popular music are generaly the same, only the style changes.
New music is still being created every day in bedrooms and bedsits across every country.
You should celebrate the possibilities, not complain about a certain style.
A computer is only an instrument in the hands of a musician.
We now have the possibility to listen to a wider range of music and a greater number of independant musicians than ever before. Thanks to the internet I can sit here and listen to my cousin's band on local radio in yorkshire.
We are so rich in music these days that we don't realise it anymore.

There are still great musicians alive:
I can personaly recommend Conor Oberst aka Bright Eyes.



He has even been dubstepped:



The original is better:



And his best album, with lyrics, relevant to ATS, live from Vinyl, in HD from his living room.

Also, just to state, when I said its been in America for about a year, I ment mainstream wise, im sure it's been around for a while, not aslong as it has here not by a long stretch, but please, open your mind before spouting ignorance (i'd also like to use an American term). Period.

Ive been a Dj/Rj for many years (Xwave Radio),I will only say this..there is Electronic Music,and then there is Electronic Music.

The most wonderful Simon Posford.