What the hell happened to music???

Bassnectar.

That is all.

Listen to him and your mind will be BLOWN away.

Originally posted by miss_sky

Originally posted by Bootyac
Some more Simon Posford/Raja Ram.There is quite a bit of electronic music out there that is amazing.

simon posford/hallucinogen/shpongle is by far my fave psytrance producers!

....followed by infected mushroom. Ive seen those guys DJ, perform a live PA, and also perform as a band...any who thinks that doesnt take talent then i just dont know.

I have saw IM as well.Ive also had the honor of meeting Simon a few times after his shows.He is also a wonderful human being.

reply to post by clairvoyantrose


Seen Bassnectar (Lorin) 3 times. Last at Counterpoint festival. Indeed, Mind blown.

I think the 70's were the golden age of music and all arts in general...Wisdom,creativity,and innovations were the back bone of the arts then...Musicians tried different sounds,rhythms,instruments,vocals and lyrics which were never heard of before and by doing so they broke a lot of technical,political and social boundaries and taboos...I personally lost interest in a lot of music that were made after drum machines and dx7's were introduced to the market and when music "entertainers" multiplied left and right like mushrooms....Now even your little sister can make her own music,and publish it too!....No offense to anyone...Maybe i am getting too old,or maybe recent music really sucks...I need a prune juice with a hint of basil and splash of sea salt.

Originally posted by Bootyac

Originally posted by miss_sky

Originally posted by Bootyac
Some more Simon Posford/Raja Ram.There is quite a bit of electronic music out there that is amazing.

simon posford/hallucinogen/shpongle is by far my fave psytrance producers!

....followed by infected mushroom. Ive seen those guys DJ, perform a live PA, and also perform as a band...any who thinks that doesnt take talent then i just dont know.

I have saw IM as well.Ive also had the honor of meeting Simon a few times after his shows.He is also a wonderful human being.

I met simon too!! it was in april 2010 when they played in NYC. My friend shane was doing the lasers for their tour so i got to hang out backstage,very cool guy indeed, as well as a musical genius.

Originally posted by Hefficide

And still I am trying, but I have had an epiphany that helps explain part of why I am having trouble getting into the dubstep thing.... To me it sounds like what is supposed to be beneath the music. It feels like it's missing the top layer.

Another member posted a few pages back about how music is an emotional expression and that, therefore, all music is valid. I agree with this largely. IMO some music is produced without passion - and purely by formula... this type of music never hits me in the *oomph* spot.

Might there be any really emotional dubstep out there that feels like it has more layers to it?

~Heff

It's because it's homophonic. It may technically have more than one layer, but generally speaking there is a melody line that is strong in most homophonic music. Popular music is homophonic, polyphonic would mean there are several layers with the two or more distinct melodies and rhythms. If the melody line isn't strong enough then the piece will seem like it lacks something, this is the case with some electronic music as it is generally more rhythmical driven IMHO (i'm not saying it can't have melody, rather that it isn't of chief importance).

Anyone ever hear of trap music? I'm not sure how new it is but I just heard about it recently so I've been checking it out on you tube. Its like a mix of rap, hip hop and funky electronic sounds. I kinda digg it. I can dance to it, I tested it out in my room lol. If I can dance to it there's a good chance I like it.

This what kids listening too these days

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Gosh, I remember when I was in high school and no one liked his skinny, mickey mouse sounding self. He was singing "I need a hot girl" and other ish. At least he is consistently stupid.

reply to post by miss_sky


Checkout Herobust, Rl grime, Bauuer, crizzly

You think that's bad.. My wife's son listens to this crap called Screamo (he's 19 so I'll consider forgiving him) . It's basically screaming but not in a good heavy metal kind of way like Metallica, more like a sick twisted type of screaming your lungs out like your being raped by a demon and liking it kind of way. I was shocked to find out that screamo has been around since at least 2006 when this guy tried out with it on American Idol. www.youtube.com...

I'm hoping the boy will grow up one day and graduate to some nice decent heavy metal. It would show great hope for him. ( or Beethoven Brhams or Motzart.. even Frank Zappa.. anything but screamo)

Now this Dubstep stuff, I tried a little of on youtube and it's strange yes, but it has electronic music at it's roots so I can at least listen to it.. not as good as Jean Michel Jarre though. Oxygène and Équinoxe are Classic Awesome.

reply to post by LizardSlicks

I would rather listen to a drunk hobo hit a broken bongo and slur about what's brought him to this than any King Crimson or Yes record.

can't tell the tonal differences in the vocals of said bands or the general style of riffing each musician brings to the table

Obviously you have not listened to much KC Their styles varied and progressed through the years, Same with Yes, their lineup changes brought different subject matter and composition style.

Dinosaur Jrf The Wagon sounds great, simple rock song but nothing outstanding.

"As a guitar player I can appreciate both the force and raw emotion of noise and the technique and tension build up and release of a good solo

If the above statement holds true...try The Court Of The Crimson King, or Epitaph from In the Court Oe The Crimson King 1969...
To the earlier guitar player who bad mouthed synthesizers, well I guess those 101 pedals that guitarists use came from R & D developed by Luthiers...hmmm
By the way I love my synths and I love a good guitar but why do "guitarists" always have to slam electronic music and shove it all into the same category? Its a bit like me saying that Paco de Lucia sounds like Ozzy Osbourne.
Dont lump it altogether. The Shadows of the 60s as an example were great hits and yet if you analyse them carefully their songs were formulaic, "paint by numbers" compositions. Much the same could be said of thrash metal riffs or metal vocalists who sound like they're using a vocoder.

Music is so subjective and yet thats what makes it great...something for everyone. Now about modern "manufactured hits with models/cleavage/ass lip syncing" produced for the masses...well I guess the masses need their Kool Aid, I mean how else would these poor Record Co's survive without them..pfftt!

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Now, here he is in 1984 spending most of the performance dancing around like a fool and clapping his hands

But did he all of a sudden lose his creativity...no...He went with the times and catered to peoples tastes and maybe made a bit of money that he wouldn't have made if stayed the same. Why is it wrong to want to put food on the table?

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