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reply to post by fourthmeal


since you, clearly, have bought into this toppt thing, tell us, have you stopped paying rent or your mortgage payments? are you no longer paying your debts since, per the filings, you aren't obligated to do so?

Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by fourthmeal

 

since you, clearly, have bought into this toppt thing, tell us, have you stopped paying rent or your mortgage payments? are you no longer paying your debts since, per the filings, you aren't obligated to do so?

That's the ultimate question. I'm actually glad you asked. I'm sure what you expect me to say is something like, "No! Are you crazy?" But in reality, I am making free-will choices to be free now that I have learned of all of this.

I will still pay rent because I pay it to another human being with which I contracted a rent agreement. That's a legit decision I made that is free and clear of any slavery system, other than of course the interaction of payment with FRN's.

I will pay my car loan because I freely contracted to do that, as well. That's an obligation that I choose to pay.

I will pay my electric bills and water bills, and cell phone bills because those are also obligations that I choose to pay, as I use them and contract to use them.

HOWEVER... There are several bills that I have chosen not to pay. Old collections bills from companies that are clearly part of the DEBTORS, of the slavery system. The IRS for example will be my first. In order for me to proceed in my choice, I need a few documents finalized and ready. These are not ready yet, there may be a few days before they are. But I have a few weeks before my next payment to them is due and once I have all the documents I need, I will notice them and await reply, fully expecting a very interesting result. This is of a debt that they say I owe but my records clearly do not agree with, one I did not contract with, and I do not consent to them coming at me for it. And so I will be in the fight.



You have to do what you feel right to do. The OPPT Trustees just set the groundwork and gave notice to the system that you are free if you choose to be. Right now, it is just beginning so right now a bunch of people are "testing" the system and seeing what resistance there is, if any. But the next few weeks may change the need to even bother. Who knows? We definitely have not been here before so its time to just try things, and be free.

If it works, don't worry I'll be sure to inform. Setting precedence is everything in situations like this, IMO. Just take a look at the foreclosure case I referenced and sourced for you in links. Sue is still in her house, almost a month since she was supposed to be kicked out and nobody has approached her or noticed her since her notice to them. For her, so far, it has succeeded. Eyes are on her case, and she freely updates on those links so we'll be able to see the ongoing process.

Its new folks. I don't have all the answers, I'm just here to tell you what I feel and think about it. And I want to be free.

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
there have been a few threads [some trolling ones, i believe] concerning the
One People’s Public Trust on ATS here with much speculation as to what is really involved here.
now that the corporations [read; governments] of the world have accepted their noticing as a binding legal action, the OPPT are ready to announce their presence [?presents] to the people of the world...

Never heard of them. And I warrant the same applies to almost everyone else on the planet.

so, without further adooo ...
link

Alert: The Public Trust Forecloses on Major Corporations, Including Banks
February 04, 2013 —
The One People’s Public Trust today is alerting each man, woman, and child on this planet that banks and corporations operating under the guise of the people’s governments have been foreclosed upon by their own free will.

And how exactly have they done that?

If they are genunine, why not make this known to all the billions of people in Africa and Asia.


Or is it just another scam aimed at a handful of gullible Americans?

Ok, wait!

Did I just read that they have seized ALL of the worlds assets for all of mankind to enjoy equally?

Um, how is that NOT a one world government???

To me it seems like a carefully played chess match. Get people riled up over class warfare, corporatism, banking cartels, currency wars, government intrusion etc... and then have some group of "citizens" ride into the rescue to destroy it all and rebuild it "For all of the people's of the world to enjoy equally." Hmmmmm....

And who shall oversee said equal distribution of the fruits of our labors? Um, a one world government no doubt. And I couldn't help but notice how equality keeps playing a major theme here, like socialism.

I'm VERY dubious! I'm not liking this one bit if it proves to be real. It smells funny to me...

reply to post by fourthmeal


ok, so you're paying for current services, not paying old debts, like the IRS. Basically, you are paying for the things you know you must pay for, lest you find yourself living on the street or not being able to get to and from work and you are skipping out on your debt which, by the way, will not end well as the BE DO I don't owe you defense is probably going to work as well for you as not paying the mortgage on her home worked for your beloved trustee.

Originally posted by AndyMayhew
And how exactly have they done that?

they filed some paperwork that puts the OPPT in line for a payout, in the event there's a foreclosure but, here's the best part, the collateral is your energy OPPT has, apparently in a court of public opinion, foreclosed on everyone and everything.

Originally posted by AndyMayhew
If they are genunine, why not make this known to all the billions of people in Africa and Asia.

I would imagine that, in due time, they will get their global phonebook out and give every non-american their gold.

Originally posted by AndyMayhew
Or is it just another scam aimed at a handful of gullible Americans?

if it looks like a duck....

reply to post by Crakeur


Not even close.

Now this is getting dumb, again from someone I hold a higher standard to, you disappoint me.

Its OK if you don't get it. I just don't know why you are still in the discussion back and forth if you aren't informing yourself of what this really is.

Originally posted by AndyMayhew

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
there have been a few threads [some trolling ones, i believe] concerning the
One People’s Public Trust on ATS here with much speculation as to what is really involved here.
now that the corporations [read; governments] of the world have accepted their noticing as a binding legal action, the OPPT are ready to announce their presence [?presents] to the people of the world...

Never heard of them. And I warrant the same applies to almost everyone else on the planet.

so, without further adooo ...
link

Alert: The Public Trust Forecloses on Major Corporations, Including Banks
February 04, 2013 —
The One People’s Public Trust today is alerting each man, woman, and child on this planet that banks and corporations operating under the guise of the people’s governments have been foreclosed upon by their own free will.

And how exactly have they done that?

If they are genunine, why not make this known to all the billions of people in Africa and Asia.


Or is it just another scam aimed at a handful of gullible Americans?

It is going to take time to reach everyone, but please take note that there are many countries now involved in trying to make this known. Feel free to do your part if you feel compelled to help, of course. The rate of growth right now is exponential, and remember we are talking of something that went public on Dec 25th, 2012 and just released an official newswire release with basic details on Feb 4, 2013. So, all very very new. Anyway here's the list of countries now doing something about it, I can add to this that though they aren't on this list, I've seen discussions in Norway, Croatia, Russia, Iceland (which especially had many things to say about their banking scandal success stories), and I believe Australia is also leading the pack since the radio shows are actually based there.

oppttheunfoldingstory.wordpress.com... has an ongoing list, and I don't have Facebook but the OPPT facebook page probably goes deeper. From that list you can see Malaysia, Germany, Canada, Australia, USA, and here you can see the visitor map which gives a good view from just one website, where the info is being seen. oppt-in.com... It is all grassroots, and nobody donates anything more than their energy and time and skills. It is important to remember if any OPPT type site is asking for money, it is a fraud. The Trustees specifically said that this is not needed, wanted, or in any way a suitable thing.

reply to post by fourthmeal


I do get it and I am mystified by the people who buy into this stuff. It's like the folks who talk about the IRS and filing taxes being illegal. They convince other people to buy their books, go to their seminars and then these poor, unsuspecting souls get tagged for all kinds of bills for not paying their taxes while the guys who profit from those seminars and lectures are smart enough to file their taxes, and pay their bills.

I've seen links to people who are refusing to pay their mortgages over this nonsense and, if they are for real, they will be foreclosed on and they will be homeless and that, my friend, is a horrible thing to happen to someone simply because they were so desperate to believe in a better life that they bought into this silly truckstop fantasy.

A lot of people had the same thoughts when they first heard the plan. In fact I remember the first interview, and second interview had a lot of questions about NWO in another wrapper.

But government and governance by the people are not the same thing. One of the goals that the Trustees set forth is that they hope the people will decide no government of any kind is necessary. For now, there is the CVAC which operates in transparency and serves as a placeholder.

The timing is important, but IMO not because it is a problem-reaction-solution type of thing here. I believe that everything happens for a reason. But I can smell P-R-S schemes a mile away, just like you picked up on here. Notice the differences though, and you'll likely see what I mean in that this isn't the same. The solution is for the people. No hierarchy. No rules other than common law, and universal law. The laws that normal human beings obey because they are not ruthless animals toward one another, day in day out. The golden rule, etc.

And they aren't trying control here. Specifically the whole thing is about the people. If the people decide government and enslavement is what they want, so be it. But ask yourself. What do you want? Does it violate any other person's free will? If it doesn't, why can't you do it now if you can't? Ask the whys. If the answer at some point is because there is a law that says you can't, then ask more why.

Being a community of humans in service to one another because we choose to is not bad. Especially if you are free to express who you really are along the way.



I applaud you for having a skeptical view of it. The first two radio shows I listened to, I was very skeptical. I picked up on only bits and pieces and I didn't fully understand. Its taken a while. But ask the questions, if to no one else, ask to yourself, and see what develops. Then research from there and see what you think.

Originally posted by kozmo
Ok, wait!

Did I just read that they have seized ALL of the worlds assets for all of mankind to enjoy equally?

Um, how is that NOT a one world government???

To me it seems like a carefully played chess match. Get people riled up over class warfare, corporatism, banking cartels, currency wars, government intrusion etc... and then have some group of "citizens" ride into the rescue to destroy it all and rebuild it "For all of the people's of the world to enjoy equally." Hmmmmm....

And who shall oversee said equal distribution of the fruits of our labors? Um, a one world government no doubt. And I couldn't help but notice how equality keeps playing a major theme here, like socialism.

I'm VERY dubious! I'm not liking this one bit if it proves to be real. It smells funny to me...

reply to post by Crakeur


Then stand by and observe what happens, and re-evaluate from there.

But making stuff up about truck stops and whatnot is getting pretty old. Sounds like your Ego has already managed build up a little vision of who these people are, and you've played something out in your head as if it was true. The assumptions you make remind me of a saying a teacher used to repeat to us. What do you do when you ASS-U-ME?

If you are really interested in it, then why not listen to a radio show or read the transcript, and pick up on what is really happening? If not, why keep posting as if you do know what is going on? You are equating this to previous events. I'm 100% certain that a 1776 Trust has never been reactivated, edited to include all People, and then filed proper documentation to successfully foreclose unrebutted on the entire system. I'm pretty sure we're blazing a new trail here, and while discernment is advised, at no point can we say we've seen this before.

Finally, if it doesn't all make sense, then walk away. The ones that will take us through it all will still do it without you. Its OK. Just be who you want to be. Try not to be so abrasive against other people though, like you are now. Really, accusations are just ridiculous and unfounded.

Originally posted by fourthmeal
and pick up on what is really happening?

But nothing is happening, some gullible people think that it is happening but nothing is.

One thing they have not thought of is if you have money invested in savings or superannuation you will lose the lot under their plan, as all debts are cancelled, so the debt the bank owes you for your savings is also cancelled....

reply to post by fourthmeal


I have also been loosely following this. I am still on the fence but am in no way ready to support nor condemn it. Even if it is a scam, that will eventually come out. I see no reason to maliciously crush any hope in these dark days. Hope is something greatly needed, though I remember my father telling me, "crap in one hand and hope in the other". What my father failed to realize is, hope costs nothing!

reply to post by fourthmeal


oh, I love me a good comedy so, yes, I am going to keep a close eye on this stuff.


In the meantime, to keep our minds fresh, a math question for you.

If every man, woman and child on the planet is entitled to at least 5 billion in gold (americans get more apparently), where is all that gold coming from?

the value of all the gold in the world: $8,545,137,399,317.

trillions, not quadrillians.

onlygold.com...


edited to add, if there really is quadrillions of dollars worth of gold that is going to be redistributed so that we all have our fair share, it's time to short gold futures, big time.

reply to post by hellobruce


You really think saving paper money is actually saving? Or worse, saving the electronic version of that?

LOL.

reply to post by Crakeur


This is of course completely wrong. There is far more gold and silver than that, this is a lie to keep things "scarce".

But I'm sure at this point no source I give to you would ever convince you otherwise. It isn't mainstream.


Oh and btw, you are still focused on the money. The least important part of this all. This is all about equality for all and making money a useless artifact of the slavery system. I was too when I first started, like I said. Give yourself time, stay open, and see if you can overcome the desire to park 5B in gold/silver (both were stated) in a bank for yourself.

reply to post by fourthmeal


I'm focused on the money because the idea of living a good, harmonious life is not alien to me. I try to live my life in the manner that your truckers, I mean trustees, suggest. I don't need some soap box preacher to tell me how to live. The gold is where their tale becomes fantasy and, for the record, they are claiming that they will be procuring these vast sums of gold for everyone. I gave you a link to a valid source regarding the total monetary value of all the gold. You say there's more. Quadrillions more.

Please provide some means of backing up that claim and, no, the trucker trio's words don't count here because, besides being adept at mixing new age phrases with legalese and a sprinkling of total jibberish, I really don't think they can be relied on for much else.

reply to post by Crakeur

I gave you a link to a valid source regarding the total monetary value of all the gold.

so one webpage makes another webpage invalid.

on the other hand, a good you tube video ...

reply to post by tinhattribunal


the only thing he can show me are the three "trustees" words with nothing to back it up. I am providing verification to the things I'm saying.

they, supposedly, filed UCC filings in a court, presumably, in Washington state, where they are from. how that qualifies as jurisdiction over global entites is a mystery.

Even the "trustees" admit their legal documents are nonsense:

Yes, it is admittedly a “bunch of legal mumbo jumbo” as one e-mailer put it. However, the people of this planet were not the intended audience of these actions prudently taken...the former principals, agents, and beneficiaries of the former slavery systems were. With absolute care and prudence, we did knowingly, willingly, and intentionally choose the language and principles of law that were necessary to effectively, lawfully and legally access, activate and manifest what IS, always has been...all quite humorously forever preserved within the slavery systems and a not-so-well-known private uniform commercial code and registry that was paid for by the people of this planet, and therefore duly secured as their property...let someone come forth and prove otherwise. We will gladly address any duly verified, sworn and secured rebuttals of record.

They also claim to have heard from all over the universe about their work:

To all the people, every one of you, who have sent emails and called us, some of which we have been able to respond to (there are so many of you and from all over the planet and universe!)...

so now they are contacting aliens?

and they claim there is at least 5 billion in metals for each person on the planet

the amount of FIVE BILLION (5,000,000,000) in gold and silver to every state of body, every one of the people of this planet, is correct....

unless they are wrong:

please, when you have any information before you, consider recognizing and accepting that during this incredible moment of present that is manifesting, that a lot of energy is happening simultaneously and may cause any one of us to miss, or not “see” what IS...including moments of present of simultaneous release of energies of old, energy of relief, energy of excitement, energy of fear, energy of...well, there are so many.

as a result of their missing or not seeing the reality.

They have a reason for this silly game. What, exactly, it is, is unknown but, rest assured, they admit they are creating legal documents with nonsense in them, they admit they have no idea as to the value of the money they are claiming exists and they admit to conversing with people outside of this planet.

and people are taking them seriously.



that's scary. are people so desperate for change in their lives that they're willing to latch onto something as far fetched as alien contactees with comedic legal claims?

quotes taken from Announcement found at www.peoplestrust1776.org...

reply to post by Crakeur


Here you go Crakeur, your chance for a real challenge!

let someone come forth and prove otherwise. We will gladly address any duly verified, sworn and secured rebuttals of record.

Give 'em hell! Make it like a public challenge where we can all see the outcome.