56 billion in foreign aid while Americans sleep on the street

reply to post by cosmicexplorer


I wish i could go back to work, funny, i was just talking to one of
the deputies here about volunteering for a while and learning the ropes
and then after a year you can apply for a full time position.

I would enjoy the job, but i cant meet the physical requirements, due
to the heath problems, sit up's, push up's and running is not something
i am able to do anymore. So that blows that idea i had out of the water.

my plan was volunteer until i got surgery (if i got surgery) then apply for full time
once i was feeling up to it. Would have a lot of hands on experience as well as
a career with a future helping people.
But in the shape i am now, its just not going to happen. But if i get the surgery
i will try to do this then. Normally ones with my problems only one in 6 ever go
back to work. Hoping i get to be one of the lucky ones.
This staying at home crap with no motivation is driving me nuts.

Originally posted by Spookycolt
I got a job at Mcdonalds and it took me two days. Dropped off the application and they called right back. Worked there for about a month and quit.

You quit after a month and you call others lazy......humm

Its not hard to find work if you want it. I also got a part-time job picking up trash at a local museum. They hired me on the spot.

How long untill you quit that one???

Don't tell me that there is no work out there.

Of course not...when people get turned down for a lack of positions in a given business, only because someone took a job only to quit it a month later.....enough said.

For the OP...I totally agree with you, it is unacceptable for governments to give away the taxpayer's money to other countries and let your own people starve and live in the street. S+F

Originally posted by angellicview
I couldn't agree with you more!

Now, where shall we get started?

People should be marching in the streets in every city. Yet they are not. Why?

I don't get it.

I agree with the both of you. Complete madness if you ask me. While I'm very much against socialism, it does bother me to see homeless people, while we send billions overseas.

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reply to post by Teye22

For the OP...I totally agree with you, it is unacceptable for governments to give away the taxpayer's money to other countries and let your own people starve and live in the street. S+F

You are happy to take from the rest of the world. What is wrong with giving a little back...

reply to post by Heisenberg59


Who knows where all the foreign aid goes? Whether it's sent by the US government, the Canadian government, the British government, [insert name] government..... how do we know it gets to where its said it's going?

Who keeps track, who gets receipts from recipient governments and or agencies, how are we to know that all of it actually winds up helping people; some of it may help building giant spaceships to take the elite to some base somewhere to escape the [insert conspiracy theory dealing with alien invasion, cataclysmic earth changes, pole shift, meteor collision, etc.]

reply to post by severdsoul


Hang in there buddy...ever thought of trying to be a dispatcher? We end up hiring a lot of cops who are dispatchers...maybe you could do something like that first then if you get the surgery go into the job....our dispatchers are phenomenal. They sometimes have solved the crimes before everything even gets to us!

reply to post by cosmicexplorer


Have not considered that, may have to look into that. It would have
to be as a volunteer on limited basis for now.
I'm kind of stuck, if i earn money i loose any chance of getting the
surgery, but i am going nuts with nothing to do.
Thanks for the idea, i will look into this. It would at least be something to
help out in the mean time.

Originally posted by Mayson


I can't imagine that would help the country. How would anyone buy anything if it cost 8x as much? You wouldn't be able to buy anything that was made and all the companies would go out of business and then no one would be working.

I think, and I'm sure I've said it before, that the only reason a manufacturing job used to be a valid way to achieve the American dream and have a house, boat, family, two vacations a year, etc. was that WW2 came along and destroyed the manufacturing capability of the rest of the civilized nations. America was the only country with an intact infrastructure so they could afford to dictate the price that the rest of the world paid. They had a monopoly. Now that things have recovered, companies can't afford to pay your average blue collar worker a premium salary and still thrive.

You should probably be happy they pay slave wages to people in Africa to keep the prices down. The only way bringing the manufacturing back to America would help people here would be if they could pay the workers 85 cents an hour. At least they implemented things like no child left behind and created a lot of scholarship funds and things along those lines so that a lot of the people can get a "higher" education and not need all the manufacturing jobs that they got rid of.

I disagree with your assessment on so many levels, but it's your opinion. Although, quite frankly, I cannot for the life of me understand how someone could possibly be so out of touch with reality. I'm just wondering then, why the cost of an automobile did not decrease when they started being made in Mexico and China? I'm also wondering about all the people with college degrees flipping burgers at McDonalds, because there are no jobs available to them? Not to mention these college graduates have mounds of debt from student loans and only minimum wage jobs waiting for them on the outside. Yeah, your higher education is sure working out great!

Then there's the issue of cost. Don't confuse the cost of labor with labor unions. Toyota, Honda and Subaru are all opening plants in the U.S. (non union) and paying a living wage all the while supplying products that Americans with jobs that pay living wages can afford. Just because some union bosses got greedy does not mean it can't ever be profitable to manufacture in the United States.

Also, you must have missed the news about American companies leaving China to move back to the U.S. Something about Chinese workers not wanting to work for peanuts anymore is starting to make it more profitable to manufacture back in the U.S. Here's a nugget for you: www.forbes.com...

One last note, lower the taxes on businesses and make it profitable to do business in America again.

Let me put this into the perspective of a poor person, for those of you who it seems cannot relate.

I was discharged from the Navy last March. I had savings. I lived off of my savings trying to find a job until it ran out. I did not want to go on unemployment, I don't want a handout. Eventually, I had to go on unemployment, I had no other choice. Now, 10 months later, I am still unemployed, I just recieved my last unemployment check. My credit is ruined, it will take me years to build it back up. Wal-Mart won't hire me, none of the places I've applied to, there's been around 45, have even called me back. Right now, I'm hoping I can make it until March when a seasonal job gutting Paddlefish for caviar opens up. After that? Hopefully I can get a job at a ranch or something.

What qualifications do I have? I can weld, I'm a good mechanic, I'm a pretty good carpenter, I know livestock pretty well, I have no arrest record, I've never even had a speeding ticket, I can cook, I have no problems working long hours, I'm in decent health, I've only even been late to work (by a few minutes at that) maybe 3 times in my life.

Rent is $475 a month, Utitilities are around $100 usually. Gas is $3.30 a gallon, liability car insurance is $60 a month. Then there's food. If I eat one meal a day, that's still around $60 a week for groceries. Minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, if I could find a minimum wage job. So, $1,160 before taxes, let's call it $1,050 after taxes. Once rent and Utilities are paid, that leaves $575 to live on each month. take away auto insurance and groceries that's $270, then lets say I drive 200 miles to and from work each month at $3.30 a gallon and 15mpg that comes to $44, that's just driving to work, not including any other driving I might do. That leaves you with $226. Now, factor in what could happen, keep in mind there's pretty much no public transportation here. Say I need to replace a tire, for tire, mounting and balancing it comes to about $120, or what if I get sick, or hurt?

Do you now understand? Of course, this is all considering that You found a minimum wage job in the first place.

Anyway, myself and those like me are being called lazy by some people, Here's the thing, we don't want handouts, we want Jobs! How can wanting and looking for a job make you lazy?

Originally posted by purplemer
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Show me any poor person and I will show you mistakes they have made that put them in the situation they are.

^Those guys aren't getting our money. In reality;

These Guys are:

reply to post by dave_welch


I've come to the conclusion that a lot of people live in a fantasy world. They philosophize on how things should work, but fail to recognize that the real world isn't operating like that at all. Something is off base about their premise, but they refuse to admit that they could possibly be wrong. Hide their head in the sand and recite the same old tired lines again and again. Was it Einstein who said the Definition of Insanity is doing the same thing the same way, yet expecting a different result? They hide their heads in the sand, refusing to recognize America's economy is broken. Ignorance is bliss, ya know.

There's not much that can be done about it either, unfortunately. The only remedy is for enough people of like-minded persuasions to speak up and band together to vote these jokers out of office. Then maybe they will know what it's like to not have a job.

Originally posted by Spookycolt
I got a job at Mcdonalds and it took me two days. Dropped off the application and they called right back. Worked there for about a month and quit.

Its not hard to find work if you want it. I also got a part-time job picking up trash at a local museum. They hired me on the spot.

Don't tell me that there is no work out there.

LOL where do you live? First off it took me 1,050 online applications to find a job I literally did 1,050 online applications to find one recently. I got the job worked my butt off for the company, they lied and stole money from my paycheck "$300" all at once said it was an accounting error said I was over paid so i asked for proof? I got a Time card that I sent in with no proof I had been over paid. Since then they haven't called me back for a job! Lazy my arse people are getting screwed by employers because they know that people will put up with anything just to have a job right now!

Honestly I know your type you have money and probably got it from mommy or daddy, you believe people are poor because they are unwilling to work for it. When in reality if you have ever worked two jobs you would understand how bone tired at the end of the day you are and how it doesn't amount to that much.

Out here California rent is 900 dollar a month for a one bedroom lets say you make 8 dollars an hour at 40 hours a week "perfect world lol" 8*40 = 320 now minus taxes and you have 260*4=1040 ok lets now lets times that by 2 =2080 , one week = 168 hours and minus 8 hours for sleep a day for a week = 112 now lets minus 30 minutes commute time "extremely lucky" -14 hours remember two jobs =98 hours of which the person with two jobs works 80 of. Ok now lets get down to the cost of living lol 900 rent- from 2080 =1,180 the electric bill equals 100 so your at 1,080= phone bill 50= 1,030 minus "car" gas 120 = 910, food -300= 610, car insurance minus 30 so your a 580, internet- 30=550 and lets hope the person doesn't have to make a car payment! and in total they had to work only a whopping 320 hours a month to have only $500 on hand after bills.

reply to post by Heisenberg59


haha its not actual tax money they are just printing it and sending over, thats why everything is inflated. j/k ^^

sometimes we actually do need to give some for "allies" you know to keep our bases there. but others i have no f ing clue why we give them money , like isreal. i could care less if we cut them off tomorrow, they havent done #$%^ for us , have been caught spying over 16 times in les than 10 years, caught buying documents, and basically caught lying to us red handed on about every subject dealing with middle east, so why are we giving them 5 billion a year for past 65 years?

not to mention, TPTB, they have sucked people into giving x, y, z money through private chairties to do similar work, why use actual tax monies when if they just let it all go to #, dumbasses will line up to give more to private charites.

(but heaven for bid they sell that 4k mountain bike for 2k less than actual price on ebay/craigslist.. heh? )

if everyone stoped giving to charities, the government would be forced to make programs that really work instead of doin it half assed and hoping that some private charity will pick up the pieces.

get rid of private charities = watch real programs be born that WORK.

and even though most say "not for profit" explain to me why they have a ceo that makes 85k-250k board of trustess that make money and people in company making 50k or more on salary, cough cough red cross

but as long as there are only "some" people living in the street, they see it as we have enough to send to others,

Originally posted by Spookycolt
That's why poor people love people like you.

Your willing to bail them out. Working two minimum wage jobs is more than enough money to take care of you as long as you haven't been stupid. While you do that start improving yourself with college classes, as much as you can handle and slowly climb your way up.

Keep looking for better jobs and you can get there. I did it.

You did it huh?

You wanted a new computer that your wife wouldn't let you have. So you got a job at macdonalds within 2 days. I guess your wife was supporting you prior to this? Hmm.

And in less than 1 month working at Macdonalds, you acquired enough money to buy a new computer. I see.

And then you quit your job working at Macdonalds, and was given a job on the spot picking up trash at the museum.

And you did it. You got a better job.

Sounds like your wife got the job and you got your computer. And now you're using your computer to tell everyone else, who has to support their wife, how lazy they are.

Ahh you're a troll.. lol

What does Israel get ? 3 Billion dollars of U.S Taxpayers every year and for what ? no wonder they call them Jews

56 billion in foreign aid.
1.5% of taxes
1.5 trillion in domestic entitlement/social welfare programs
50% of taxes

Originally posted by spy66
When i read what you people have written. I cant stop to notice how dependent we have made our selves of money. Its like without it, We all suffer and die a horrible death.

There are many things we can do. But it wont help to blame our political leaders or the rest of the 1%.
Because, at 07:00 you start up you car and go to work for these people, one way or another.

Being homeless, cold and hungry would be a miserable way to die.

what do you think happens if you remove the one thing that everything else relies on?

I don't want to be reliant on money. But I can't just go "Oh I'll do without it." It's sort of required to live in this manufactured commodity driven fiasco we call society.

some call it civilisation... that's a joke.

Originally posted by Spookycolt
Its nothing but being smart and preparing for bad times.

Show me any poor person and I will show you mistakes they have made that put them in the situation they are.

With the exception of a horrific accident or disease there is no excuse.

And work 3 jobs at mcdonalds if you have too. People are lazy.

How can illegals find work yet regular citizens cannot?

You guys need to quit making excuses for these lazy bums.

I want to agree. I really want to. But after having live in Jacksonville, FL with no transportation but my bicycle, your job choices are LIMITED. You can only bike so far every day. You have to consider rain, cold, etc. It's easy to sit there in your leather chair while you own a car and say everyone is lazy. Some people ARE lazy, sure. But to say "its all their fault" is completely pompous and reeks of male-ego run amok.

I have a college degree, I'm a computer programmer, web designer, and graphic designer. I couldn't find work ANYWHERE because I have no vehicle. So I was forced to ride my bicycle a few miles a day to a minimum wage job at CiCi's pizza for about 15 months. Try living off of that wage. Try going to work in a restaurant soaked from rain. Just try it for one month and come back and post that same thing again. It will be impossible because you'll realize how screwed it all is.

"But you can just save for a car" yeah try saving up for a car with that wage. You'll be lucky to keep your LIGHTS on.