Muslims to march on White House next September 11th

Another daft debate..

Simple facts..

Normal Muslims want nothing more than peace and quiet and the ability to do as others do with no special circumstances..

Radical Muslims want to HAVE control of YOU and obliterate your rights.

Normal Muslims fine, Radical Muslims sling your hook..

The third Muslim type, the Moderate should NEVER be trusted, 99% of those that claim to be moderate are NOT, they are Radicals playing a two faced role.

As long as we know and accept the differences between the two types all is ok, when we fail to see the difference the debate becomes pointless and nasty. My only criticism of the ordinary Muslims is that they are far too quiet in their condemning of the radicals who destroy the peaceful side of the religion.

Of course Islam has a violent side as many religions do but its down to the believer to use their common sense and normal morals to avoid that part, its called evolution, about time ALL Islamics had a go at it.

Being a man does not make you superior, its what you do as a person that gets the respect you deserve, applies to men and women...

it may be wise to observe shivaX's involvement in this very thread

and also in this one:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

i highlight that page for a reason, look at mmmpies's excellent edited highlight's of shivaX's contradictory statements in that thread.

then look at his/her frenetic posting history.

i am obvs continuing an off topic trend here, but i would assert that i am not attacking him/her, simply drawing people to evidence that they may choose to examine before they assume that they will find logic and debate via engagement with him/her at present

shivaX, i'm trying to politely help you realise that you may find it wise to adjust your method of involvement in these forums, or you will most likely end up banned - people are trying to debate issues with you, have the decency to do the same

peace

reply to post by ElijahWan

Does Christian Terrorism exist?
Yes

Does Christian Terrorism come under Christianity?
Yes

How many Christian terrorist attacks did you get to see in this year?

Islamic terrorists have conducted more that 20,000 terrorist attacks.
Beat that.

I think it's clear this debate is over. Whilst I'm loathe to call 'troll' on Shiva, it seems clear he's unwilling or unable to discuss this matter in any reasonable way.

\thread.

reply to post by Mclaneinc

Of course Islam has a violent side as many religions do

Explain the violent side of Buddhism.

Originally posted by shivaX

Originally posted by sajuek
reply to post by shivaX

 

Nothing to consider at all. That's so stupidly ignorant of you I literally cannot believe I read it.

None of the Muslims in this march are AT ALL related to the ones doing any of those things in the Middle East. How dare you try to levvy their crimes upon citizens of your own country with the logic "Well, this brown person 10.000 miles away did this. There are these other brown people who live down my street, so let's trial them as the criminals and deprive them of rights just cos."

When did I ''try to levvy their crimes upon citizens of your own country with the logic "Well, this brown person 10.000 miles away did this.''

Well here's one example

Points to consider:- *Christians and Jews do not get any protection in the middle east. *They are not allowed to practice their own religion freely. *They have to pay additional taxes aka Jizya. *Our daughter's are being forcibly raped and converted to Islam everyday in Islamic countries.

That was your FIRST response in the thread. You replied to a thread about a march of Muslims on Washington with bullet points about why Islam is "evil".

Do you STILL not see how that's characterizing an entire religion based on the actions of a few violent extremists?

Originally posted by shivaX
reply to post by ElijahWan

 

Does Christian Terrorism exist?
Yes

Does Christian Terrorism come under Christianity?
Yes

How many Christian terrorist attacks did you get to see in this year?

Islamic terrorists have conducted more that 20,000 terrorist attacks.
Beat that.

You only need to look at Nigeria to see who is attacking and who isn't...This is pretty much repeated in all largely Muslim (Radical) countries.

shivaX, i'm trying to politely help you realise that you may find it wise to adjust your method of involvement in these forums, or you will most likely end up banned - people are trying to debate issues with you, have the decency to do the same

reply to post by skalla

Thanks for the suggestion.

But even if I get banned ,it will take me approximately 1 minute to create a new account.

Originally posted by KingIcarus
I think it's clear this debate is over. Whilst I'm loathe to call 'troll' on Shiva, it seems clear he's unwilling or unable to discuss this matter in any reasonable way.

\thread.

Oops.
Did I piss someone off?

Originally posted by shivaX

But even if I get banned ,it will take me approximately 1 minute to create a new account.

And a further 1min to ban you globally if you have a fixed IP..

Originally posted by ElijahWan

Originally posted by shivaX

Originally posted by sajuek
reply to post by shivaX

 

Nothing to consider at all. That's so stupidly ignorant of you I literally cannot believe I read it.

None of the Muslims in this march are AT ALL related to the ones doing any of those things in the Middle East. How dare you try to levvy their crimes upon citizens of your own country with the logic "Well, this brown person 10.000 miles away did this. There are these other brown people who live down my street, so let's trial them as the criminals and deprive them of rights just cos."

When did I ''try to levvy their crimes upon citizens of your own country with the logic "Well, this brown person 10.000 miles away did this.''

Well here's one example

Points to consider:- *Christians and Jews do not get any protection in the middle east. *They are not allowed to practice their own religion freely. *They have to pay additional taxes aka Jizya. *Our daughter's are being forcibly raped and converted to Islam everyday in Islamic countries.

That was your FIRST response in the thread. You replied to a thread about a march of Muslims on Washington with bullet points about why Islam is "evil".

Do you STILL not see how that's characterizing an entire religion based on the actions of a few violent extremists?

I did not 'try to levvy their crimes upon citizens of your.......'

What I did was highlighted the issue.

Originally posted by shivaX
reply to post by Mclaneinc

 

Of course Islam has a violent side as many religions do

Explain the violent side of Buddhism.

What part of "as many religions do" was hard to grasp?

I didn't say all...

reply to post by shivaX

How many Christian terrorist attacks did you get to see in this year?

Islamic terrorists have conducted more that 20,000 terrorist attacks.
Beat that.

The number of muslims killed by West is an order of magnitude higher than the number of westerners killed by "Islamic" terrorists. To them the west are terrorists. Go ask someone who had their families bombed by drones. Terrorism is not just an "Islamic" thing.

reply to post by Mclaneinc


Interesting point and atleast valid.

Unlike the others.

Originally posted by Mclaneinc

Originally posted by shivaX

But even if I get banned ,it will take me approximately 1 minute to create a new account.

And a further 1min to ban you globally if you have a fixed IP..

Ever heard about proxy?

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by shivaX

 

How many Christian terrorist attacks did you get to see in this year?

Islamic terrorists have conducted more that 20,000 terrorist attacks.
Beat that.

The number of muslims killed by West is an order of magnitude higher than the number of westerners killed by "Islamic" terrorists. To them the west are terrorists. Go ask someone who had their families bombed by drones. Terrorism is not just an "Islamic" thing.

Nice opinion.

Originally posted by shivaX

Originally posted by Mclaneinc

Originally posted by shivaX

But even if I get banned ,it will take me approximately 1 minute to create a new account.

And a further 1min to ban you globally if you have a fixed IP..

Ever heard about proxy?

Yup, seems you intend to annoy first and debate second?

Originally posted by shivaX

Originally posted by KingIcarus
I think it's clear this debate is over. Whilst I'm loathe to call 'troll' on Shiva, it seems clear he's unwilling or unable to discuss this matter in any reasonable way.

\thread.

Oops.
Did I piss someone off?

I doubt it...more like he realized having a civil discussion with you about the religion of Islam is utterly impossible, so why waste the time? I'm quickly coming to the same conclusion. You have yet to make much of a point other than showing that you really really hate Islam and Muslims.

Originally posted by Mclaneinc

Originally posted by shivaX
reply to post by Mclaneinc

 

Of course Islam has a violent side as many religions do

Explain the violent side of Buddhism.

What part of "as many religions do" was hard to grasp?

I didn't say all...

Oh since you are too chicken to talk about Buddhism,lets hear you talk about violence in Jainism or Meivazhi.

Originally posted by Mclaneinc

Originally posted by shivaX

Originally posted by Mclaneinc

Originally posted by shivaX

But even if I get banned ,it will take me approximately 1 minute to create a new account.

And a further 1min to ban you globally if you have a fixed IP..

Ever heard about proxy?

Yup, seems you intend to annoy first and debate second?

What does proxy have to do with 'annoying someone'?