Muslims to march on White House next September 11th

Originally posted by Severin
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IF MOST MUSLIMS ARE PEACEFUL THEN WHY DONT THEY REACT WHEN EXTREMEST CAUSE HAVOC?WHOSE SIDE ARE THEY?

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IF MOST MUSLIMS ARE PEACEFUL THEN WHY DONT THEY REACT WHEN EXTREMEST CAUSE HAVOC?WHOSE SIDE ARE THEY?

Running out of ideas I see

Again ,it is my wish what I want to say.

PS:-
So you ran from that thread because you were unable to answer the question.

Originally posted by ElijahWan

I agree with everything you said up to this point. Look at it like this...Lets say you're Hawaiian. Then on 11/11/12, we get attacked by Hawaiian terrorists. Ever since then, everywhere you go, just because you're Hawaiian people assume you're a terrorist or hate the "West". You try and try to tell people "No I'm not a terrorist, I'm Hawaiian, yes, but I'm not a terrorist" yet they won't listen to you. So what day would you choose to draw attention to your cause that not every Hawaiian is a terrorist? I'd choose the day of the attack.

Honestly, I feel sorry for the Muslim prejudice -blatantly- shown in the US. I've known a number of Muslims, but I've -never- known a Muslim extremist....

edit on 2/1/13 by ElijahWan because: italics fix

Ok, I accept that point re the march, it depends I guess on who is doing the March and for what reason they chose the date, if its to support the dead then its actually correct and right, I really should have given that more thought. Personally I would think about what the world perceived happened on that date and then rationalise if I thought it would be seen as a correct time to march given the loss of life on that day and the public feeling around it.

Would my cause for the march be positively seen or not...And then decide.

As seen, my in laws are Muslim and some of the nicest people in the world, genuine good people and I have schooled myself in knowledge of the Islamic way so I do not upset or do something derogatory to their faith, but if something I see happening in the Muslim world that I don't agree with I chat about it with them. They have no wish to bring Sharia in or such, they just came here in the 50's and set up their home from good old hard work.

Yes, there is prejudice about Muslims in general here in the UK as well as the US, some valid but pointed at the wrong part of their society. Have I met an extremist, yes sadly, many times here, little annoying foot soldiers of Radical Mosques that spread hate and abuse the public including my wife by calling her a kuffar whore because they see her as Asian (her family are from Guyana so have Asian ancestry, she was born her in the UK in the same hospital as my daughter), sadly these goons attack us in their little clans.

I've actually sat with them on my own and asked why the hatred and to be honest I don't actually think some of them understand and simply parrot as if brainwashed, there's no actual intelligent rapport, its all quotes and rubbish.

Hopefully you now have a better understanding of where I come from, I just wish the normal Muslims would do more publicly to condemn the radicals, people might just start accepting them rather than opposing.

reply to post by shivaX


You copy pasted stuff from that website and you were clearly speaking positively about Jesus.
And now, you seem to have a problem with Christianity as well.

reply to post by shivaX

That
is your
opinion and not necessarily what I did.

Thats exactly what you did.
How old are you? Are you an Indian by any chance?

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


dammit, i came back! just fyi i imagine the shiva in his screen name is more a reference to the shiva variety of booda that so clouds his thinking.

are we back on topic about freedoms in america yet?

ah, no.

anyway, i'm off for the weekend, may pop by for a look and chuckle when i get the chance tomorrow, see you all around

i may even do a study of mr specials posting history if i get a chance, i could plot his sleeping, eating and defacating patterns quite easily. not defacating all over these boards, i mean when he goes to the loo. most likely when meds are applied too.

sorry, it's undignified of me, but i just had to have a little nibble

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Originally posted by skalla
reply to post by sk0rpi0n

 

i may even do a study of mr specials posting history if i get a chance, i could plot his sleeping, eating and defacating patterns quite easily. not defacating all over these boards, i mean when he goes to the loo. most likely when meds are applied too.

I wouldn't bother my friend... Once you've seen one you've seen them all

reply to post by shivaX


All three religions believe in the ten commandments including Islam. Religion is NEVER bad it is the humans who mal practice it that are bad and break the rules or disregard the word of God.

Religion is not the problem it is human capacity to understand what is right and wrong. "I shall fear no man only will I fear God."
Some men fear other men and do their bidding even if it goes against the word of God.

So yes Islam is as peaceful as it's followers and so is Christianity and Judaism. If we would all think like you then I guess all the religions are religion of hate and war.

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dunno if i am being a bit of a berk by bringing this thread back to the front pages etc, but it looks like things may be a little calmer now....
i was wondering how the OP feels about this (supposed/proposed) march now, in the light of some of the discussion and so on since he made the thread...

it would be interesting to hear the op's thoughts

reply to post by skalla


Well ya know, I am cool with whatever people want to believe when it comes to religious issues. After all, in this country we supposedly have that right. But when a religion also crosses the boundary into government, and especially in such a tyrannical way, it is now imposing its will upon me to a degree that I cannot tolerate. Tolerance has boundaries too, ya know.

That's why this million man march in a way is hypocritical in itself. People with no tolerance for dissenting views are demanding the government to reaffirm their rights to impose their own will on the rest of us. I mean for pete's sake, we already are having a tough enough time keeping the government off our backs, let alone one imposing sharia law on Americans. And it is no secret that is their ultimate goal, from what I've read.

I just wish all religion would just DIE. Life is tough enough already as it is.

That's what the OP thinks, since you asked.

reply to post by TrueAmerican

well i agree with you on the overall negative effect of organised religions..... though i'm disappointed but not really surprised by your over all sweeping generalisation of muslims.
i find that just short sighted and very misinformed, but ofc i dont doubt that you disagree with many or all of the sentiments i expressed on this thread . obviously i feel that you have swallowed the propaganda pushed by western govts, and the media (be that msm or otherwise) ..but the two of us are clearly miles apart on how we view things and both feel that we have good reasons for our views.

thanks for taking the time to reply

There are good people and bad people in all religions and in the lack of a religion, that is to say good and evil are part of humanity and not soley based upon religion.

I support the people marching for thier belief and in regards to the public's perception of them as a whole, as well as making people aware of the fact that they are people too and deserve to be recognized as such and share in the freedoms that the Constitution provides. I do think they could have picked a better day, perhaps September 10th for example as that was the last day of innocence for the U.S. before the dreaded day and atrocious happenings thereof.

Shiva not to pick on you because you are not alone, this goes for everyone who has a mindset akin to the one you have shown on here. You scare the living hell out of me. The hatred you and others like have shown is in my opinion just the opposite side of the coin you profess to hate so much. Whether knowingly or not you are spewing profound hatred that is both ignorant and misdirected.

The only people one should take issue with are those that seek to undermine our Constitution and the Republic for which it stands for if that falls, then all is lost.

Live and let live, we are all on the same boat, it's time we started to act like it.

reply to post by ollncasino

Tehran University in 2012 That's progress, Islamic style!

I would say that is more to do with the CIA overthrowing the democratic government of Iran and replacing it...Reap what you sow.

reply to post by purplemer


what the poster of those pics also fails to realise or acknowledge is that those young ladies were also muslim in a muslim country at the time!

prejudice can really cloud one's thinking

reply to post by ElijahWan

So wait...let me get this right then...let me try that...
Does Christian Terrorism exist?
Yes

Does Christian Terrorism come under Christianity?
Yes

Problem Solved, Every Christian is a TERRORIST and doesn't have the right to free speech or assembly.
Your logic is flawed. Every Islamic Terrorist is a Muslim, but not every Muslim is an Islamic Terrorist....
Let's paint with a broad stroke more....

As I explained before, there is no such thing as a muslim terrorist. There are muslims engaged in Jihad. Jihad is the mechanical process by which muslims spread their faith, their laws, and their culture.

Calling them "terrorists" only sets you up for the trap illustrated above. Never use the word terrorism when attempting to describe the various actions employed by muslims as they work to spread their culture to non-muslim lands.

The plain fact is that ONLY muslims engage in Jihad. You will not find Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, or members of any other faith engaging in Jihad.

Does Islamic Jihad Exists? Yes.
Do muslims engage in Jihad? Yes.
Is Jihad the mechanical process by which muslims propagate their culture? Yes.

Do Christians engage in Jihad in an effort to spread Islamic culture? No.
Do Jews engage in Jihad in an effort to spread Islamic culture? No.

Jihad is unique to muslims and is not practiced by any other people on the planet. Jihad is the mechanical process by which muslims expand their culture into non-muslim lands. Wherever muslims interface with non-muslims there is Jihad.

Stop using the word terrorism to describe something that is uniquely Islamic. And this march on Washington, DC is just that, an open act of Jihad in an effort to spread Islamic culture into American culture with the often-stated goal of replacing the Constitution and my Bill of Rights with Islam and Sharia.

reply to post by mike_trivisonno


so go on mike, you stated earlier that in the US you propose that islam, the qur'an and mosques should be banned, and that any muslim should be deported. and that this was to be achieved without violence.

please describe how you would do this, and how you can ban an idea and monitor your proposals; as well as where us citizens who are, or convert to islam, should be deported to.

back up your plan.

so go on mike, you stated earlier that in the US you propose that islam, the qur'an and mosques should be banned, and that any muslim should be deported. and that this was to be achieved without violence.

Sheesh. You are such a troll. Why would I waste any more time responding to your dishonest and intellectually lazy comments? Seriously. Your grasp of Islamic history and culture is so woefully inadequate as to make your participation in this thread an unneeded irritant.

Please stop bothering me.