Does anti-Obama hatred undermine collectively held US values?

reply to post by NewAgeMan


So in other words it is not any specific policy or legislation that is influencing your beliefs but his own generalized campaign speeches, etc.?

reply to post by Astyanax


OMG you and I are on the same page!

I do have a theory. The American people suffered sever abuse at the hand of their own government during the Bush/Cheney years and any continuation in policy and continuity of that same government, no matter who is in "the chair" at the oval office is a rightful place to direct their outrage and indignation, so there's transference going on, and some blame to be assigned to the incoming Obama administration for their continuance of Bush policy.

If Obama abolished or amended even just SOME of those things, to restore the "wind of liberty" then they would forgive him, but they see in him just another variation of the same type of abuse they remember all too well and are still stinging from.

It's like a wound that no one person or leader can heal.

And he's black and liberal, and a little snooty, too cool, professorial and a little too arrogant for many people's taste too much of a Celebrity and it really makes them gag.

But like I said above, I honestly think that he's a pretty decent guy, who actually cares and is trying his very best.

If the American people are not as Bill Clinton said this past election campaign in his historic speech "feeling it" after these four years, then in hindsight, I'm wrong.

I just see them fanning the flames of the worst aspects of American culture including that which is promulgated by the MSM, and it really saddens me to see such visceral ignorance being so rampant.

I WANT to see the USA succeed, and for one and all to "live long and prosper".

posted by Astyanax

 

I don't normally sympathise with your viewpoint or your approach to debate, but I fully endorse what you have achieved here.

Which is ???????????? Absolutely nothing.

Two pages down and the Barack-haters have yet to come up with anything more concrete that wild accusations and schoolyard cries of 'no, you!'

Amazing that even video with the words and lies from his own mouth aren't enough evidence for you. It shows that you are nothing more than a domesticated, brainwashed puppet who can't think or make decisions for yourself. Just jumping on the bandwagon.

It is distressingly obvious that most people who hate Barack Obama (and they are very much in the minority, both in America and in the rest of the world) hate him because he's a black man.

This alone expresses your sheer ignorance of knowledge as if you went and personally took a poll of what everyone in the world thinks. This is your opinion and sheer speculation.

As far as calling Barrack haters or people who don't agree with him as "RACIST" .......what do you call BLACK people who hate or disagree with him?

Thanks for putting up this thread. It brings the creeps out of the woodwork and helps us identify them for future reference.

Yes...Thank you because you have just exposed yourself as another mindless troll who has just posted nothing but your personal opinion and views as fact without even looking at factual evidence from the man's mouth himself.

When a man speaks words and his very actions contradict what he has said....he is a liar... Which means he isn't worthy to be trusted....

My father a mere man who was a humble man taught me one thing....You only have your word and if you can't keep your word then u can't be trusted...

So essentially it would be better off to not make promises you can't or don't intend on keeping.

UNFORTUNATELY this world is so full of people who need people to think for them...You are dependent people who will evetually see and be awokened by the humbling experience of REALITY. I truly feel sympathy for you ignorance as a human being.

reply to post by harvib

No it's the whole thing, his Healthcare Plan, even though they had to end up ramming it through which was divisive, was a good thing and necessary.

The gay rights issue was a good stance to take. (even though I'm straight and a Christian).

The immigration reform and soon to come Education reform are good things.

Ending the wars. Very important.

Avoiding war with Iran.

Re-presenting a friendlier, soft power USA within a multilateral global framework - check.

And to top it off I think he's the right kind of Christian, from what I've seen and heard.

And he smokes (I hope he still does).

He's just a guy, but he's your President.

I tell you if you come out of this mess even with flying colors, he might end up with a pretty good legacy.

I'm just the eternal optimist I guess and I can't stand the cynical pessimistic POV.

posted by NewAgeMan

 

But he's not even black!

And hey, if you can't love everyone equally, then you can't really love anyone at all, including yourself, so now here you go calling the opposition "creeps" that I can't approve as it violates my core values.

I respect that. It's a totally unbiased view based on fact and not personal emotion. Very respectable in my eyes.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by harvib

 

No it's the whole thing, his Healthcare Plan, even though they had to end up ramming it through which was divisive, was a good thing and necessary.

The gay rights issue was a good stance to take. (even though I'm straight and a Christian).

The immigration reform and soon to come Education reform are good things.

Ending the wars. Very important.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but what specifically about the healthcare plan are you referring to? What specifically are you referring to when you mention immigration reform and education reform?

I am not clear on what portion of these "reforms" lead you to your conclusions.

Also the wars have ended???

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Given that he is the leader of the country, and appears to want what's best for the American people, like economic recovery and a burgeoning and resurgent middle class, immigration reform, equal rights, education reform, etc. I'm just not sure how all the anti-Obama hatred is helpful in advancing collectively held US values..

economic recovery?

the gdp grew at -0.1% in the fourth quarter.
yes thats right negative.
which means it contracted.

Obama is killing the middle class.
inflation is through the roof, due to his $6 trillion dollar spending spree.link
raised taxes through obamacare.
insurance premiums are up between 30%-60%
raised payroll taxes.
unemployment at 7.8%, same as it was when he took office in 2009, and $6 trillion later.

immigration reform?
no he wants amnesty for 11 million ILLEGAL aliens.
or in other words, he wants 11 million democrat voters.

equal rights?
yeah, stalin wanted equal rights too.
read the constitution.
he splits us into different groups based on income, then spews this class warfare claptrap that just divides the people even more.
whats equal about that?

education reform?
democrats have controlled education since 1979.
need i say more?

and he stomps on the constitution every chance he gets.
and you want to know why people hate him.

reply to post by Revealation

Oh, I don't plan to argue with you. He won, you lost, and nothing you say matters any more.

Have a nice day!

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
For starters, in terms of fundamental values and belief, which is really the first cause in any civil and burgeoning society, something that I believe is still in the realm of all possibility both for the United States and the larger world, I happen to think that when Obama states that "my individual salvation is inextricably tied to our collective salvation" he understands something about the importance of "we",

Your position makes much more sense now. Your belief in collective salvation is akin to the brainwashing that Obama was recieving for over 20 years from Rev Jeremiah Wrights Black Liberation Theology. Collective salvation is one of the most base evils in this world that makes the lame attempt at blending Jesus and communism. Lesser educated poor lap this spiritual and culteral poison up but most correct thinking people see right through it and see it for the evil that it is.

Again... It is Obama running counter to traditional American values

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by AwakeinNM

 

But can you support the contention? Thanks.

Deflection tactics again. SMH.. I don't need to support it. It is blatantly effing obvious to anyone who possesses a brain and even the slightest knowledge of history.

Thanks for playing, though.

Okay, I swore to myself to keep myself from this ensuing chaos, but once more, I feel obliged to plug in (so to say).


Every time something is "obvious" the person saying this does not have an answer but tries to hide this.

Just give us 1 or 2 or 100 points with which you want to underlay the impression that your president is a communist, or a bastard or whatever you feel about him.

Of course, that will leave you vulnerable to criticism, but on the other hand you are so very sure about him being the worlds worst person to do that job that you should feel safe enough for every discussion, right?

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by AwakeinNM

 

I'm deflecting?

All I asked was for you to support in some way shape or form the accusation that Obama is a communist.

Ask anyone over the age of 50 who came here from a communist of formerly communist country. Ask them if anything sounds familiar, if it seems familiar.

*ahem* East-Germany, anyone?
I can NOT point to anything communistical about your president.

Obamacare? Sorry, that is not an idea of communism.

If you could bring up something like a 5-years-plan for manufactoring or the sequestration of factories in benefication to the workers, we would talk about communism.

Originally posted by ManFromEurope

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by AwakeinNM

 

But can you support the contention? Thanks.

Deflection tactics again. SMH.. I don't need to support it. It is blatantly effing obvious to anyone who possesses a brain and even the slightest knowledge of history.

Thanks for playing, though.

Okay, I swore to myself to keep myself from this ensuing chaos, but once more, I feel obliged to plug in (so to say).


Every time something is "obvious" the person saying this does not have an answer but tries to hide this.

Just give us 1 or 2 or 100 points with which you want to underlay the impression that your president is a communist, or a bastard or whatever you feel about him.

Of course, that will leave you vulnerable to criticism, but on the other hand you are so very sure about him being the worlds worst person to do that job that you should feel safe enough for every discussion, right?

Foreign Policy

1. Continued the practice of indefinite detentions for alleged terrorists without review (link, link)

2. Dropped threat to veto NDAA (link) and signed it, encoding severe government power advances into law (link)

3. Announced “Withdrawal Plan” that leaves more troops in Afghanistan than when he started (link)

4. Authorized military intervention in Libya without the approval of Congress (link)

5. Did this after emphatically stating as a presidential candidate that the president did not have the authority to do that (link)

6. Defended intervention in Libya by redefining the word “hostilities” (link)

7. Revived “Prompt Global Strike” weapons system, considered too controversial by Bush Administration (link)

8.Announced a $60 billion sale of arms to the Saudi Arabian dictatorship, the largest arms deal in history (link)

9. Sold arms to abusive Bahrain regime and used legal loophole to avoid telling Congress about it (link)

10. Granted a waiver allowing four countries to continue receiving US military aid even though they use child soldiers (link)

11. Argued that the widespread use of Predator drones is a justifiable form of self-defense (link)

12. Claims ACTA could be ratified without Congressional approval and that it would override US law (link)

13. Ordered drone attacks in Yemen (link)

14. Ordered a cruise missile and cluster bomb attack in Yemen that killed women and children, suppressed the civilian casualties, and then imprisoned a journalist who revealed the truth (link)

15. Would seek international permission for intervening in Syria before consulting Congress (link)

16. Broke promise to reject the Military Commissions Act (link)

17. Continuing policy of maintaining thousands of troops at over a thousand military bases around the world (link)

Honorable Mention: Backed off on his promise to close the prison at Guantanamo (link) (Yes, I know you can blame Congress for this. But he backed away from it while Democrats still controlled Congress, and his promise to close Guantanamo was often cited as a reason to vote for him.)

Civil Liberties and Homeland Security

18. Authorized the assassination of US citizens abroad, an unprecedented declaration of executive power (link)

19. Says American citizens can be targeted for killing without judicial review (link)

20. Assassinated an American citizen without due process (link) (Yes I know he was a terrorist who wanted to kill me, but the government can make mistakes and I don’t want the government having the power to make mistakes about killing American citizens with no limits)

21. Two weeks later, assassinated that citizen’s 16-year-old son (link)

22. Announced the rules about assassinating American citizens, basically telling the other branches of government whats its own limitations are (link)

23. Requested thousands of secret spying warrants (link)

24. Defended the use of warrantless wiretapping (link)

25. Tried to stop the Supreme Court from hearing a challenge of warrantless wiretapping (link)

26. Pushed to overhaul federal law making it easier to wiretap (link)

27. Refused to declassify a secret memo regarding the president’s power for warrantless spying (link)

28. Defended the use of warrantless GPS vehicle tracking, which was ruled unconstitutional (link)

29. Continued and expanded Bush’s police state (link) (You could really make multiple reasons from all the examples in this article)

30. Allowed TSA to continue and expand its outrageous security theater (link)

31. Specifically requested additional money for more TSA full-body scanners (link)

32. Helped pay for surveillance of Muslim neighborhoods (link)

33. Unaccountable, unjustifiable drug war spending (link)

34. Heavy crackdown on medical marijuana (link)

35. Raided Gibson Guitar Factory without filing charges (link)

36. Supports mandatory DNA testing of those arrested for crimes, regardless of whether they have been convicted (link)

37. Allowed weapons to pass into the hands of Mexican drug cartels which were later linked to deaths of American border patrol agents (link)

38. Sealed records on the death of one of those agents (link)

39. Signed Trespass Bill, making it a federal offense to be “disruptive” at political events (link, link)

40. Pushing for creation of “Internet ID” for every American (link)

41. Signed extension of the Patriot Act with snooping provisions intact (link, link)

42. Invoked “government secrecy” against a lawsuit by AT&T customers “who claim federal agents illegally intercepted their phone calls” (link)

43. Raided homes of peace activists in Minneapolis (link)

44. Wants warrantless access to cell phone location data (link)

45. Sought access to private e-mail correspondence without needing to go through a judge (link)

NEW! Honorable Mention: Allowed FDA to secretly monitor thousands of private emails of its own scientists (link)
Ethics and Transparency

46. Broke promise to allow five days of public comment before signing bills, repeatedly (link)

47. Broke promise to broadcast health care negotiations on C-SPAN (link)

48. Broke promise to reduce earmarks to 1994 levels (link)

49. Broke promise to create a public “contracts and influence” database (link)

50. Issued signing statement that he would not abide by provisions in a budget bill regarding “czar” funding (link)

51. Issued signing statement that he did not need to abide by provisions addressing aid for the IMF and World Bank (link)

52. Did this despite promise not to use signing statements to nullify instructions from Congress (link, link, link)

53. Tried to force a New York Times reporter to reveal confidential sources (link)

54. Claimed the government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal law, a position more radical than the Bush Administration’s (link)

55. Failed to disclose visits by industry executives while crafting health care reform legislation (link)

56. Tried to block a ruling that White House visitor logs had to be released to the public (link)

57. Eventually released the records and claimed that release was evidence of his “transparent” government, despite the fact that he went to court to keep them secret (link)

58. Frequently met with lobbyists off campus to hide from the public and keep visits out of White House visitor logs (link)

59. Tried to block a court-ordered release of detainee abuse photos (link)

60. Cited exceptions to open records laws thousands of times more than Bush (link)

61. Repeatedly invoked “state secrets” privilege to get cases thrown out of court after criticizing Bush for doing the same (link)

62. Blocked Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests regarding ties with Monsanto (link)

63. Refused FOIA request to reveal who was on the Intelligence Oversight Board (link)

64. Aggressively fighting FOIA requests with long delays, blocking release whenever possible, and using bolder arguments than the Bush administration (link, link, link)

65. Appointed 5 RIAA lawyers to the Justice department (link)

66. Appointed serial tax dodger Timothy Geithner to be his Treasury Secretary (link)

67. Appointed Monsanto executive Michael Taylor to the FDA (link)

68. Appointed H&R Block CEO Mark Ernst to the IRS, where he wrote tax regulation to require licensed tax preparers. Congress never gave the IRS authority to do that, but this regulation benefits H&R Block, who had lobbied for it. (link)

69. Told the Air Force it was illegal for their families to read Wikileaks (link)

70. Did all of these things after promising that his administration would be “the most open and transparent in history.” (link)

Honorable Mention: Accused of violating subpoenas related to thousands of documents (link)

NEW! Honorable Mention: 36 Obama staffers are delinquent on more than $800,000 in taxes (link)

NEW! Honorable Mention: Lied (until they were caught) about connection to an ad that accused Romney of being responsible for a man’s death (link)
Health Care Reform

71. Required American citizens, for the first time, to purchase a product from a private business through the “individual mandate.” I don’t care if Republicans came up with the idea first; I don’t care if you need it to make the health care bill work; and it’s not like state car insurance, either. It is (I believe) a severe and unconstitutional overreach that sets a dangerous precedent of almost unlimited government, and conservatives and liberals alike should agree that this insurance company hybrid system is a far worse health care solution than either free-market or government-run “single payer” systems. (link)

72. Argued the individual mandate penalty was not a tax increase to make the bill more attractive and then argued that the penalty was a tax increase to justify its constitutionality under the commerce clause (link, link).

73. Cut a benefit program from health care reform that was supposed to reduce the overall cost after realizing it would actually dramatically increase it (link)

74. Established unreasonable requirements on organizations and then granted over 1500 waivers from those requirements to those with the connections or resources to get approved (link), with labor unions receiving the overwhelming majority (link)

75. Broke promise to require employers to provide seven days paid sick leave (link) (From my bias I’m actually glad this promise was broken. I’m including it because the pro-bama list actually uses this promise as a reason to vote for Obama. Seriously? I could make up 218 nice-sounding promises. That’s not a reason to vote for me. But if I become president and break those promises? That’s definitely not a reason to vote for me again.)

76. Broke promise to allow imported prescription drugs (link)
Budget and Finances

77. Broke promise to cut deficit in half by the end of his first term. (link) (All of Obama’s deficits are larger than all of Bush’s, and not just because of the inherited crisis – his projected deficits for the next four years are still much larger.)

78. Broke promise to repeal Bush tax cuts for high earners, signing bill to extend them (link)

79. Broke promise that families making less than $250,000 a year would not see “any form of tax increase” (link)

80. Broke promise to end no-bid contracts over $25,000 (link)

81. Loaned $500 million at a low rate to an unsustainable green company that went bankrupt (link)

82. The program behind that loan has only created a few thousand jobs compared to the 65,000 promised (link)

83. Reneged on accepting public financing limits for his presidential campaign (link)

84. Broke promise to expand the child and dependent care credit (link)

85. Broke promise to end income tax for seniors making less than $50,000 a year (link)

86. The Senate has not passed an annual budget for over 1000 days, including the second year Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress, (link) and a 2011 budget proposal from the White House was so bad it was rejected by the Senate 97-0. (link)

87. Broke promise to form an international group to help Iraq refugees (link)
Ethics and Transparency, Part II: Whistleblowers

88. Prosecuted whistleblower Bradley Manning for disclosing video, cables, and intelligence reports (link)

89. Obstructed investigation into Bradley Manning’s inhumane treatment (link)

90. Prosecuted whistleblower Thomas Drake, who helped reveal an ineffective $1.2 billion NSA contract that could have been done for $3 million (link)

91. Prosecuted whistleblower Stephen Jin-Woo Kim for “allegedly leaking nuclear information about North Korea” (link)

92. Prosecuted whistleblower Jeffrey Sterling for “allegedly disclosing unauthorized national defense information” (link)

93. Prosecuted whistleblower John Kiriakou for “allegedly leaking to reporters the names of two agency operatives” (link)

94. Launched a criminal investigation against Paul Hardy for blowing the whistle on safety problems with a breast cancer detection device (link)

95. These prosecutions are more than all previous presidents combined (link)

96. These prosecutions are happening after Obama formerly praised whistleblowers, represented one as a young law and vowed to strengthen whistleblower protection laws (link, link).
Various and Sundry Administrative Overreaches

97. Used executive order to establish “Intellectual Property Enforcement Advisory Committees” (link)

98. Seized and suspended websites without due process (link, link)

99. Gave permits to BP and other oil companies, exempting them from environmental protection laws (link)

100. Granted waivers to 10 states that failed to meet education standards if they accepted administration-approved policies (link, link)

101. Forced CEO of General Motors to step down (link)

102. Announced the Home Affordable Modification Program which the New York Times called a “colossal failure” (link)

103. Sued four states over immigration laws (link, link, link, link). I can’t find solid proof one way or the other, but I’m fairly sure this is more states sued than by any previous administration.

104. Did not tell Arizona about plans to sue; Arizona governor found out through an interview Secretary of State Clinton did in Ecuador (link)

105. Plans to sue Apple and other publishers over e-book pricing (link)

106. Record amount of prosecutions under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, pushing the boundaries and getting multiple cases thrown out of court (link, link, link)

107. Raided Amish farm selling raw milk (link)

108. Brought a lawsuit against a manufacturing company for creating jobs in a non-union state (link) and then refused a congressional subpoena for information about that lawsuit (link)

Honorable Mention: banning imported rifles (link)

NEW! Honorable Mention: Cut off funding to a Texas health program as retaliation for a state anti-abortion bill even though 29 other states have similar laws and continue to receive funding (link)

NEW! Honorable Mention: Tried to ban children from farm chores despite a huge decrease in youth farm injuries (link)
Ethics and Transparency, Part III: Lobbyists

109. Granted waivers to lobbyists to get around his own supposed restrictions on lobbyists (link)

110. After attacking auto, financial, and health lobbyist Steve Ricchetti for his political connections, Obama appointed him as Biden’s top aide (link, link).

111. Appointed former lobbyist Islam Siddiqui as America’s Chief Agriculture Negotiator (link)

112. Appointed telecom lobbyist Eric Holder to attorney general (link). Holder was also a top fundraiser (link)

113. Appointed education lobbyist Tom Vilsack to secretary of agriculture (link)

114. Appointed defense lobbyist William Lynn to deputy defense secretary (link)

115. Appointed anti-tobacco lobbyist William Corr to deputy health and human services secretary (link)

116. Appointed energy lobbyist David Hayes to deputy interior secretary (link)

117. Appointed Goldman Sachs lobbyist Mark Patterson as chief of staff to treasury secretary Geithner (link)

118. Appointed variety lobbyist Ron Klain as chief of staff to Joe Biden (link)

119. Appointed lobbyist Mona Sutphen to deputy White House chief of staff (link)

120. Appointed civil rights lobbyist Melody Barnes to domestic policy council director (link)

121. Appointed Hispanic lobbyist Cecilia Munoz to director of intergovernmental affairs (link)

122. Appointed union lobbyist Patrick Gaspard to political affairs director (link)

123. Appointed lobbyist Michael Strautmanis to chief of staff to the president’s assistant for intergovernmental relations (link)

124. Appointed lobbyist Erik Hirschhorn to the Commerce department (link)

125. Appointed lobbyist Michael Punke to represent the US before the WTO (link)

126. Appointed lobbyist Jacqueline Barrien to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (link)

127. Appointed lobbyist Emmitt Beliveau to Deputy Assistant for Advance at the White House (link)

128. Appointed lobbyist Cassandra Butts to Deputy Counsel at the White House (link)

129. Appointed lobbyist Martha Coven as Special Assistant at the White House (link)

130. Appointed lobbyist Phillip J. Crowley as assistant secretary for public affairs at the State Department (link)

131. Appointed Fannie Mae lobbyist Thomas Donilon as Deputy National Security Adviser at the NSA (link)

132. Appointed lobbyist Derek Douglas as Special Assistant for Urban Affairs at the White House (link)

133. Appointed lobbyist Jocelyn Frye as Director of Policy and Projects at the Office of the First Lady (link)

134. Appointed education lobbyist Gabriella Gomez to assistant secretary at the Department of Education (link)

135. Appointed lobbyist Krysta Harden to assistant secretary at the Department of Agriculture (link)

136. Appointed lobbyist Alan Hoffmann to Deputy Chief of Staff to the vice president (link)

137. Appointed AT&T lobbyist Sean Kennedy as special assistant at the White House (link)

138. Appointed MPAA lobbyist Jon Liebowitz as chairman of the Federal Trade Commission (link)

139. Appointed lobbyist Robert Litt to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (link)

140. Appointed lobbyist Demetrios J. Marantis as deputy U.S. trade representative (link)

141. Appointed lobbyist Dennis McDonough as deputy assistant to the president (link)

142. Appointed lobbyist Leon Panetta as director of the CIA (link)

143. Appointed Audubon Society lobbyist Robert Perciasepe to deputy commissioner of the EPA (link)

144. Appointed lobbyist Daniel Poneman to deputy secretary at the Department of Energy (link)

145. Appointed lobbyist Peter Rundlet to deputy assistant at the White House (link)

146. Appointed lawyer lobbyist Kathleen Sebelius as Secretary of Health and Human Services (link)

147. Appointed lobbyist Susan Sher to chief of staff at the Office of the First Lady (link)

148. Appointed lobbyist Dana Singiser to Special Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs (link)

149. Appointed lobbyist Nancy Stoner to Deputy Assistant Administrator for Water at the EPA (link)

150. Appointed lobbyist Thomas Strickland to assistant secretary at the Department of the Interior (link)

151. Appointed lobbyist Karl R. Thompson as a lawyer at the Department of Justice (link)

152. Appointed lobbyist John Trasvina to assistant secretary at the Department of Housing and Urban Development (link)

153. Appointed lobbyist Dan Turton to Deputy Director of Legislative Affairs at the White House (link)

154. Appointed lobbyist Christine Varney to Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust at the Justice Department (link)

155. Appointed lobbyist Richard Verma to assistant secretary at the State Department (link)

156. Appointed lobbyist William J. Wilkins to Chief Counsel at the IRS (link)

157. Appointed Tom Daschle to health and human services. Daschle was not technically a lobbyist but received millions advising health insurers and hospitals (link), and was also severely delinquent on his taxes (link)

158. Not only did he appoint all these lobbyists, but he did this after vowing to ban them (link)

Honorable Mention: Hired Keystone pipeline lobbyist as a top adviser to his reelection campaign (link)
Petty Hypocrisy

159. Insisted that Americans should not be required to buy health insurance during campaign before championing health care bill that does just that (link)

160. Signaled support for taxing employer health benefits after severely criticizing McCain for the same thing (link)

161. Slammed Bush for high gas prices in campaign and now is upset that the GOP is doing the same to him (link) (Note: I don’t think the President has that much power either way)

162. Changed his mind about opposing Super PACs and urged fundraisers to support them (link)

NEW! Honorable Mention: Now trying to expand the Export-Import Bank, one of the few government programs he said should be scaled back as a candidate, calling it “corporate welfare” (link)

Honorable Mention: Telephoned a liberal activist when she was called a slut by a conservative commentator but didn’t do anything about a conservative commentator who was called a slut by a liberal commentator. He also accepted a $1 million Super PAC donation from Bill Maher, who has called conservative women worse things. (link, link)
Ethics and Transparency, Part IV: Top Fundraisers

163. Appointed top fundraiser Cynthia Stroum as ambassador to Luxembourg, who wasted time and money hunting for a fancy residence and remodeling its bathrooms (link)

164. Replaced Stroum with top fundraiser Robert Mandell (link)

165. Appointed top fundraiser Nicole Avant as ambassador to the Bahamas, who was largely absent from post (link)

166. Appointed top fundraiser Donald Gips as ambassador to South Africa, while his company received millions in government stimulus contracts (link)

167. Appointed top fundraiser Dan Beyer as ambassador to Switzerland and Liechtenstein (link)

168. Appointed top fundraiser Julius Genachowski to chairman of the FCC (link)

169. Appointed top fundraiser Steve Spinner to the Energy Department. Spinner also happened to push for the loans to the now-bankrupt Solyndra (link)

170. Appointed top fundraiser Matthew Barzun as ambassador to Sweden (link)

171. Appointed top fundraiser Jeff Bleich as ambassador to Australia (link)

172. Appointed top fundraiser Richard Danzig to the foreign policy board (link)

173. Appointed top fundraiser William Eacho as ambassador to Austria (link)

174. Appointed top fundraiser Howard Gutman as ambassador to Belgium (link)

175. Appointed top fundraiser Scott Harris to the Department of Energy (link)

176. Appointed top fundraiser William Kennard as ambassador to the European Union (link)

177. Appointed top fundraiser Spencer Overton as the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General (link)

178. Appointed top fundraiser Thomas Perrelli as Associate Attorney General (link)

179. Appointed top fundraiser Abigail Pollack to the Commission to Study the Potential Creation of a National Museum of the American Latino (link)

180. Appointed top fundraiser Charles Rivkin as ambassador to France and Monaco (link)

181. Appointed top fundraiser John Roos as ambassador to Japan (link)

182. Appointed top fundraiser Francisco Sanchez under the Secretary of Commerce for International Trade (link)

183. Appointed top fundraiser Alan Solomont as ambassador to Spain and Andorra (link)

184. Appointed top fundraiser A. Marisa Chun as deputy associate attorney general (link)

185. Appointed top fundraiser Gregory Craig to the White House counsel (link)

186. Appointed top fundraiser Norman Eisen to the special counsel to the president for ethics and government reform (link)

187. Appointed top fundraiser Michael Froman as deputy assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for international economic affairs (link)

188. Appointed top fundraiser Mark Gallogly to the Economic Recovery Advisory Board (link)

189. Appointed top fundraiser Max Holtzman as senior adviser to the Agriculture secretary (link)

190. Appointed top fundraiser James Hudson as director of the European bank for Reconstruction and Development (link)

191. Appointed top fundraiser Jeh Johnson to the Department of Defense (link)

192. Appointed top fundraiser Samuel Kaplan as ambassador to Morocco (link)

193. Appointed top fundraiser Nicole Lamb-Hale to the Commerce Department (link)

194. Appointed top fundraiser Andres Lopez to the Commission to Study the Potential Creation of a National Museum of the American Latino (link)

195. Appointed top fundraiser Cindy Moelis as the director of the Commission on White House Fellows (link)

196. Appointed top fundraiser William Orrick as counselor to the assistant attorney general (link)

197. Appointed top fundraiser John Phillips as chairman of the Commission on White House Fellows (link)

198. Appointed top fundraiser Penny Pritzker to the Economic Recovery Advisory Board (link)

199. Appointed top fundraiser Bob Rivkin to the Transportation Department (link)

200. Appointed top fundraiser Desiree Rogers as the White House social secretary (link)

201. Appointed top fundraiser Louis Susman as ambassador to the United Kingdom (link)

202. Appointed top fundraiser Robert Sussman to the Environmental Protection Agency (link)

203. Appointed top fundraiser Christina Tchen as director of the White House Office of Public Engagement (link)

204. Appointed top fundraiser Barry White as ambassador to Norway (link)

205. Appointed top fundraiser Preeta Bansal to the Office of Management and Budget (link)

206. Appointed top fundraiser Laurie Fulton as ambassador to Denmark (link)

207. Appointed top fundraiser Fred Hochberg as President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States (link)

208. Appointed top fundraiser Valerie Jarrett as senior adviser to the president (link)

209. Appointed top fundraiser Kevin Jennings as assistant deputy secretary of Education (link)

210. Appointed top fundraiser Steven Rattner as Treasury Department adviser (link)

211. Appointed top fundraiser Miriam Sapiro as deputy U.S. trade representative (link). Sapiro was also a VeriSign lobbyist (link)

212. Appointed top fundraiser Vinai Thummalapally as ambassador to Belize (link)

213. Appointed top fundraiser David Jacobson as ambassador to Canada (link)

214. Appointed top fundraiser Ronald Kirk as U.S. trade representative (link)

215. Appointed top fundraiser Rocco Landesman to the National Endowment of the Arts (link)

216. Appointed top fundraiser Susan Rice as ambassador to the United Nations (link)

217. Gave jobs to over 200 top fundraisers after vowing to banish “special interests” (link)

218. Appointed as many top fundraisers to administrative posts in 2 years as Bush did in 8 (link)

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ROFL, This is why i posted the first reply to your thread and it was removed. It was " Go back to sleep" The size of the reply needed would take up so much harddrive space and take so long to type that it would have been deleted too. The fact is that the 4 word reply i posted is exactly the appropriate response given the huge amount of information at your fingertips. You have either been asleep for the last few years or you are completely dependent on media outlets pushing agenda's rather than reporting facts. You have internet access, use it. Do a little research with an open mind.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
I'm glad I've posed this question, and all I'm asking is that you think it all the way through, rationally, without opting for the default emotional reaction/response which doesn't uplift anyone and may even be debasing.

You can't irritate people by making them repeat themselves (logically, rationally and calm) over and over again then use that induced irritation to dismiss their point of view...MANY here have expressed exactly why they disagree with Obama over and over and over again...very clearly...and the need to do it yet again...is beyond irritating and infuriating.

Me I'm all for a new age of an enlightened mutual best interest, and if Obama is undermining the human potential of the American citizen, it would be nice to know precisely why and how.

One man's enlightenment is another mans ignorance...

Precisely? Well when you lump up 350 million people...and tie them together...it creates all kinds of issues...think of it like a two man race whose legs are tied together but the two men you have tied together are Usain Bolt and Steven Hawking...change the context to an intellectual race and you still have one slowing down the other...

There is NO ROOM for "excellence" when you tie everyone up together in a well-fare nanny state.

P.S. I'm not talking about disagreement, political opposition or protest, but visceral hatred as a knee jerk response capable of surpassing the rational faculty.

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I gave you a star for having reasons.

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The references to Hitler- (or Nazis, to 0bama or anyone) are a smokescreen to cover for communism.

Do you know anything about the Mujahadeen-e-Khalq (MEK & People's Mujahedin of Iran)? They are both Muslim and communists. Interestingly, 0bama hasn't been linked to them, but his proximity to the Muslim Brotherhood & the "revolutions" in Tunisia, Egypt, & now, Syria make that interesting.

Peace can in no way be associated or ascribed to the president. Very much the opposite.

Originally posted by luciddream

The first 3 are symbols of opression and totalitarianism and the last one is how they are sold to the useful idiots. So ya...Obama the red is cut from the same cloth.

Obama:
We cant drive our SUV's, eat what we want, keep our thermostats at 72....

Originally posted by DogsDogsDogs
reply to post by luciddream

 

The references to Hitler- (or Nazis, to 0bama or anyone) are a smokescreen to cover for communism.

Do you know anything about the Mujahadeen-e-Khalq (MEK & People's Mujahedin of Iran)? They are both Muslim and communists. Interestingly, 0bama hasn't been linked to them, but his proximity to the Muslim Brotherhood & the "revolutions" in Tunisia, Egypt, & now, Syria make that interesting.

Peace can in no way be associated or ascribed to the president. Very much the opposite.

Very true..

And lets not forget. IRAN changed its name from Persia to join forces and show solidarity with Hitler against the Jews.

IRAN means Aryan