UFO Seen From Plane

reply to post by unknown known


Wait a second here. Are you saying, speculating even, that any unknown craft in the skies must be government because if it wasn't, we would have "hard evidence by now"?

Do you realize this post makes ZERO sense from a logical standpoint?

On Topic: Wow! This was a fun thread to read through.
I was VERY intrigued by the video. In the end though this is OBVIOUSLY the revel ball. They are an exact match.

Human_Alien: No offense or anything, but if you are in the field of UFO Investigation, you do a great disservice to the field. You should leave it to the people willing to actually look into matters beyond, "this is obviously fake because I think the person presenting this case is untrustworthy."

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Originally posted by CallYourBluff
Looking closer, this casino seems to be a perfect fit. As I said earlier, this building is 800ft tall and the angle of the video cuts of the lower end of the light. So this plane must have been flying at around 600ft to 700ft. Didn't think you could have such thick cloud at that altitude. Guess I was wrong.

Here's a Google Earth view of Revel Casino with the airport in the background (I've added the red arrow). Orientation is correct before the airport. It makes sense that an incoming plane would encounter thick low clouds over the Atlantic coastline. The rooftop beacon serves as visual marker.

reply to post by Human_Alien


And furthermore, you have no basis for the claim "this is a hoax"!!
That is SUCH an absurd comment!
A lie requires knowledge of falsehood.
ALL evidence here suggests something someone thought was odd, but didn't want to come forward with, for whatever reason, and gave the "evidence" to their brother who DID come forward.

Labelling this a hoax is beyond ridiculous.
AGAIN, if you are a UFO researcher, you are absolutely inept.
In fact, I think you are lying.

Instead of labelling solved cases hoaxes, we should label them solved. Hoax label demands deceit.

I'll admit when I first saw this it had me scratching my head. After seeing the casino, however that does make sense. The deal sealer is the fact that the poster is removing dissenting posts stating that it is the casino. That removes all credibility imho.

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

And furthermore, you have no basis for the claim "this is a hoax"!!
That is SUCH an absurd comment!
A lie requires knowledge of falsehood.
ALL evidence here suggests something someone thought was odd, but didn't want to come forward with, for whatever reason, and gave the "evidence" to their brother who DID come forward.

Labelling this a hoax is beyond ridiculous.
AGAIN, if you are a UFO researcher, you are absolutely inept.
In fact, I think you are lying.

Uhm, sorry, THIS TIME, H_A was actually right.

I think we already established it's the casino. I am very, very confident that people in the plane probably mentioned that....wouldn't even be surprised if the pilot even announced something.

It's a "hoax" insofar since it is likely (although not proven) that the video poster either KNEW already what it was...or found out shortly afterwards...but regardless posted the video and claimed it's a "100% real UFO" "like out of an UFO movie". We also established that certain things the OP said were incorrect, eg. the 30.000ft etc..

The scenario that the video suddenly cut off because someone in the plane pointed out and mentioned the casino is very likely - it is very *unlikely* that the video poster posted the video genuinely not knowing its that casino. Which would make it a hoax, agree?

reply to post by TrueAmerican


My only concern was it's 21 second video and it may be a very good crafted-CGI? But nonetheless, star n flag for the post

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

And furthermore, you have no basis for the claim "this is a hoax"!!
That is SUCH an absurd comment!
A lie requires knowledge of falsehood.
ALL evidence here suggests something someone thought was odd, but didn't want to come forward with, for whatever reason, and gave the "evidence" to their brother who DID come forward.

Labelling this a hoax is beyond ridiculous.
AGAIN, if you are a UFO researcher, you are absolutely inept.
In fact, I think you are lying.

You know, you come in on the last pages (and we welcome you) but the owners' behavior is what sealed the deal and determined this is a bona fide hoax! We needed nothing else.

He says his 'brother' was just randomly video taping out his window and all of a sudden, there appeared an UFO.
An hour later he says his brother captured photos of the UFO and THEN went to tape it but it was too late.


He said it was a Spirit airline from Florida to Philly and yet that airline doesn't service Philly.


He said the plane was at 30,000 asl and clearly, it was descending


I wrote the YTer and asked him what the actual altitude and the basic flight information and..... he blocked me!


And there's more. MUCH MUCH more and yet, I'm lying!?


Yeah okay. Maybe you need another shot of kool aide!

reply to post by flexy123


You didn't establish that the poster didn't know he wasn't at 30,000 ft. The very reasonable assumption was made that they WERE NOT at 30,000ft. I mean, if the plane was cruising at 30k and then STARTED to descend, maybe this film was filmed at 29,500ft, instead of 30,000. In that case, there is NO WAY that the poster would have known that!
The descent of a plane flying at 30,000ft, travelling at 500 miles per hour doesn't just DROP to low altitude. It takes time.

Point is, people think that once something is solved it is therefore a hoax. This simply isn't true. Yes, it is identified. Saying that he "likely found out what it was" STILL doesn't PROVE deception.

Don't call the gentlemen liars! Instead, file it as Case solved.
Jesus

Originally posted by JayinAR
Instead of labelling solved cases hoaxes, we should label them solved. Hoax label demands deceit.

You know what? Why don't you stop challenging everyone and READ THROUGH THE PAGES!?!?!


There is deceit! Big time.So I implore you to stop chastising the members and posturing yourself like some super heor and READ THROUGH THE PAGES.
And with any luck and a little bit of wit a light bulb (aka; epiphany) should go off around page 12!

You're making yourself look very foolish.

Do people even realize how high the plane is??? look at the 18 second mark for the love of god...Its nowhere near any ground...

I prefer comments from randoms from youtube than know it alls from ats who cant even tell the difference between land and air...

reply to post by Human_Alien


Seriously? I just spent the last two hours reading every post in this thread.

Heck. I even posted this thread to Facebook initially entitled: Good Video Evidence?

reply to post by InnerTruths


Possibly CGI? a scam?? Is that beyond possibility?

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by unknown known

 

Wait a second here. Are you saying, speculating even, that any unknown craft in the skies must be government because if it wasn't, we would have "hard evidence by now"?

Do you realize this post makes ZERO sense from a logical standpoint?

On Topic: Wow! This was a fun thread to read through.
I was VERY intrigued by the video. In the end though this is OBVIOUSLY the revel ball. They are an exact match.

Human_Alien: No offense or anything, but if you are in the field of UFO Investigation, you do a great disservice to the field. You should leave it to the people willing to actually look into matters beyond, "this is obviously fake because I think the person presenting this case is untrustworthy."

How am I a disservice if I pegged this as a hoax 15 pages ago??? If anything I am an excellent detector of BS.

This reeked of BS.
His verbiage reeked of embellishment.
His inconsistencies not to mention removal of comments speak for themselves.

If you ever become an investigator (and I hope you don't) you'll learn key elements to watch out for and he hit them all!

You sir, have no idea what you're saying. You just want a platform to say something by weighing in at the very end and tell us (agree with us) what we already knew hours ago and YET......poke ridicule at some of us at the same time. How does that work?
WOW. You're just not right.

reply to post by rabzdguy


The plane is atleast stage 2-3 flaps (hard to tell from the video exact position though) and those clouds are low lying. The plane is landing and less than 5k altitude.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


It is what it is!
Great capture!!! S & F

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Seriously? I just spent the last two hours reading every post in this thread.

Heck. I even posted this thread to Facebook initially entitled: Good Video Evidence?

edit on 4-1-2013 by JayinAR because: (no reason given)

Then what is your problem?????

If you agree this is NOT what it purported to be, again, what is your beef?

This guy lied. And fabricated. And made things up and never ever once, backed anything up.

If that's not deceit, please show me what is!?

I don't need to prove anything. This guy did it for me.

Investigate the claimant first!!!
Not just the photograph, video tape or trace evidence. The person is the MOST important and this dude couldn't pass the sniff test if he soaked himself in a vat of cologne for a week!!