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Overlooked evidence in School shooting

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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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I read a post the other day about drug manufactures......I will see if I can find it........BUT I have a theory......they will now place millions of kids on drugs......and many others with PTSD from this will need drugs. Obamacare is coming.....find the link there.....Remember how Cheeny had ties to Halliburton and they got billions of contracts in Iraq......trust me some of Obamas drug buddies are about to get very rich......



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by questionit
@smoking
Your right in his other statements he the children mention how many guns he had, "a big one and small one"-but will never know how many guns we're their, it always changes. And in his latest statements he didn't really no what happened until he saw the teacher among the list. Some trained psychologist
He just stayed in his house until the reporter came to his house, this guy doesn't react to much very quickly.
How about the police chasing a maroon can quickly after, both men we're apprehended wearing black masks.


Are we saying that the 2 guys that were apparently shot by the police officer were wearing black masks? SOURCE?
Where are they and the guy in woods now?

If so this gets deeper by the hour!



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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.223 is designed to wound, it is more taxing on an enemy during war to tend to wounded.

.223 ammunition is outlawed for dear hunting in many states for the same reason.

there is something more to the motive that we haven't heard yet that's for sure...

"you never let a crisis go to waste" I can't remember who said that quote, but with all the gun control talk going on I doubt the media would even report on it, this guy needs to be portrayed as just walking into a school out of the blue for no apparent reason what so ever.


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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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Some comments from another site tying in Aurora and Newtown

Anschutz owns the Washington Examiner

ties to Big Pharma

Phillip Anschutz's daughter
Jennifer Anschutz Kline of the
Glaxo Smith Kline ilk
manufactures anti-depressants
used on James Holmes.

Phillip Anschutz also owns Regal Studios
which own the Aurora Theater where
the shooting took place.

also ties to Ernst & Young
same as Peter Lanza in the Newton massacre

these massacres make the whole
world of kids to be crazy

so they buy more drugs
more profits for Anschutz
and big pharma contracts
through the US Gov.


AND


since Obama shut down shale oil exploration
activities by limiting permits, the elites
involved with shale oil have to find another
way of bolstering their profits.

so to offset their loses in the oil sector,
they start Psy-Op massacres to bolster
big pharma sales to make up the losses.

enter Psy-Ops Aurora CO and
Newtown CT.

drug sales increase to cope with
the mentally handicapped kids
in schools.

ingenious plan

this isn't about guns,
it's about drug sales and profits

shame on you elites

Anschutz Oil Exploration Co in 2010
sold it's holdings in Texas, PA and Ohio
because it could not get permits from Obama
to make a profit on oil.

notice that Aurora and Newtown massacres
happened AFTER the sale of those exploration
rights were sold off.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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From the Atlantic Wire

Much of the "second shooter" speculation was spurred by a man who was detained and released after being spotted in the woods outside the school. Numerous witnesses and TV stations reported seeing a man handcuffed and placed in a police car on Friday morning. After he was interviewed and released, police moved on to other matters, but the record was never fully cleared up and the event got lost in the larger story, leading many to believe the arrest was being actively suppressed. We admit it took a bit of digging to discover that others had figured out that the man in question was most likely Chris Manfredonia, the father of a Sandy Hook student, who attempted to sneak into the school after the shooting started. Police can be heard relaying his name over their radios, but few outlets managed to follow up with that detail.

I already said this is false.....I heard 2 different radio recordings of this and I think he was one of the parents by the dumpster and the guy in the woods was someone else. A parent WOULD NOT run into the woods from the cops he would throw his hands up and say I am a parent don't shoot. Guilty people run.......



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by SMOKINGGUN2012
reply to post by RP2SticksOfDynamite
 

From the Atlantic Wire

Much of the "second shooter" speculation was spurred by a man who was detained and released after being spotted in the woods outside the school. Numerous witnesses and TV stations reported seeing a man handcuffed and placed in a police car on Friday morning. After he was interviewed and released, police moved on to other matters, but the record was never fully cleared up and the event got lost in the larger story, leading many to believe the arrest was being actively suppressed. We admit it took a bit of digging to discover that others had figured out that the man in question was most likely Chris Manfredonia, the father of a Sandy Hook student, who attempted to sneak into the school after the shooting started. Police can be heard relaying his name over their radios, but few outlets managed to follow up with that detail.

I already said this is false.....I heard 2 different radio recordings of this and I think he was one of the parents by the dumpster and the guy in the woods was someone else. A parent WOULD NOT run into the woods from the cops he would throw his hands up and say I am a parent don't shoot. Guilty people run.......






I have to agree.. I'm pretty skeptical about this stuff but there is absolutely NO reason why an innocent person would run from POLICE/SWAT/LAW ENFORCEMENT in this situation unless instructed to do so. The guy was fleeing and it doesn't make sense.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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This is one of the radio recordings I have I will look for the other one.......


jonesandcrane.iheart.com...

There were parents behind the dumpster they were not the guy arrested.
Police also say person running should have multiple weapons including long rifles and shotguns......
I would assume these are the poor officers from Newtown who saw it all........



Very Very sad...........



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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articles.latimes.com...


Chris Manfredonia, whose 6-year-old daughter attends the school, was heading there Friday morning to help make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard popping sounds and smelled sulfur.

He ran around the school trying to reach his daughter and was briefly handcuffed by police. He later found his child, who had been locked in a small room with a teacher.

This is NOT the guy running in the woods........they want us to think they are the same......

www.businessinsider.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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I can't even imagine a scene in the classroom with a maniac firing .223 ammo at close range from thirty round magazines as fast as he can pull the trigger.

Any one who understands the rifle, the round and the horrific nature of wounds from that, recoils in horror. What a terrible thought, idea for a thread.

Sorry about that...



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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Gun confiscation is part of the preparation for Communitarian planning of the planned urban communities under Agenda 21, where no one has private property, all property is publicly managed, everyone rides bikes instead of cars, or walks, and all resources including food are rationed.
The perfect little Utopian Society based on energy conservation.

read "Behind The Green Mask" by Rosa Koire



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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Can someone please explain to me why they had to keep the bodies in the school over night? I can't recall hearing that ever happening.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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Alright, but did you read down to this?:

From Fox 43, Central PA: “CBS News reports that a potential second shooter is in custody and that SWAT is now investigating the home of the suspect. Miller reports that authorities have gone into a home connected with the individual in custody after seeing what appeared to be a body inside. A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene, “I did not do it.”


Whoops?

america20xy.com...



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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You just perfectly described "1984" by George Orwell too. We are well on our way. If unchecked, The people at the top are so afraid of the masses that they strip them of every conceivable tool that may be harmful to them.

Look at Europe's castles for an era of serfdom. Castles are built to keep the people at bay while the royals live the lap of protected luxury behind their motes and stone walls.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Some people really need to see that picture to realize that police officers are people just like the rest of us when it comes to something this horrific.
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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Not to me. Why do you say that?



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Overlooked evidence? No.

People second guessing the professionals who have to go on to the scene and try and make sense of the mess? Yes.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Sometimes things just are.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by neformore
Overlooked evidence? No.

People second guessing the professionals who have to go on to the scene and try and make sense of the mess? Yes.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Sometimes things just are.


We need more sanity nef.... Please!!! ATS is being overrun by these theories. To the point that one member has already contacted the father who gave a speech about his daughter. Contacting him because he wasnt grieving like members here say he should. Its getting disgusting.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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according to reports his mother was the gun enthusiest but she took both sons to the shooting range so he was not totally inexperienced.



posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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Sir you are so right! Three shots to his mothers face alone speaks to an automatic weapon.. Also when did they switch stories to say the Bushmaster was used? Last I heard it was in his trunk and only handguns were in the school..

This type of thing just does not happen and paired with the recent election and a very clear agenda, I am crying foul. I for one am crying out saying the chances are just way to out there to be a coincidence.. These kids died for an anti gun agenda! It is clear to see, the evidence may not be there but the chances that we would have it happen right after the election of a person who promised assault rifle bans etc..

Go to Iraq and ask around if America cares about the lives of kids. Many sources say as many as one million people were killed in Iraq and tens if not hundreds of thousands of the dead were children.. Do you really want to hand over your guns to a government which has in the last decade stripped more liberty from the populace then the entire history of the USA combined? Do you really want to give your guns to a government which is so bloody?

It is time for a million man armed march!!! Please do not tolerate any further attacks upon the second amendment!

Lanza either had the fastest trigger pull on the planet, had an NFA firearm, or was a patsy and or zombie shooter.
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posted on Dec, 19 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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Bushmaster 223 is semi auto.



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