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Originally posted by whatsecret
reply to post by NoSoup4U
A lib at work said that they needed to ban guns for the month of December because that is when suicides are the highest in any given month
Ask him or her how this can be accomplished. Do people turn their guns in for December or do the cops go door to door and collect guns?
Originally posted by Feltrick
reply to post by whatsecret
Wow, lookie here, according to the CDC, there are approximately 80,000 deaths caused by alcohol...But it's unfair to blame the alcohol right? It's not the alcohol that killed those people, it was the irresponsible use of the alcohol that killed them.
I mean, you can't just walk into a store and buy alcohol, right? Kids don't steal it out of their parents cabinets, right? I'm sure the booze is locked in an appropriate cabinet by responsible alcohol users so kids can't get to it.
edit on 13-12-2012 by Feltrick because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by whatsecret
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
“guns don't kill people”
I get tired of this BS NRA catchphrase, and it is utter BS...
Yes, guns kill people (well technically bullets do). They only have one intended function, even though some may use them for other purposes, their primary function is still to kill. Guns have also killed people through accidents, including when not being handled by a person. How do NRA zealots even justify such asinine remarks when roughly 1500 people per year are killed in accidental discharges? How do they explain someone who is shot by a round that is, for example, “cooked-off” in a firearm?
Then lets discuss the psychological effects of carrying a gun. A person who carries a gun is 4.5 times as likely to get shot themselves, and is more likely to end up in violent situations because they feel more confident in facing confrontation. They are also more prone to think of a gun as a solution to a problem, then those do do not own guns. Also those who use guns on a frequent basis, and are avidly into hunting, have an inherent desensitization to using a gun for killing.
Take it from me, someone who had two family members murdered by someone who grew up in an environment where he was desensitized to shooting and killing, that these things are in fact true. If this person had not grown in that environment, and not felt that guns were a viable solution to his problems, I'd still have two more living relatives to this day...
Time for a new excuse to justify your desire to own guns folks...As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
edit on 12/13/2012 by defcon5 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Feltrick
reply to post by whatsecret
My point is that alcohol is a far worse killer than any gun. My point is that it's easier to get your hands on a bottle of beer than a gun. My point is that alcohol destroys more families and causes more violent behavior than a gun.
Irresponsibility, whether it be with a can of PBR or an AR15, destroys our society. Banning something doesn't cause the problem to go away, it just makes it more fun to get.
Guns don't kill, Irresponsible people with guns do. Just like alcohol...the irresponsible use of alcohol kills far more people in many different ways than guns do. Glad you educate your kids, but even the educated have alcohol problems.
Originally posted by woogleuk
reply to post by whatsecret
But the syringe, nor the bleach were designed specifically with ending life.
And yes, all those things make a criminal, but we aren't discussing that now, are we.
Originally posted by Cosmic911
I think a more appropriate title for this thread would be, "Another person kills," or "Another person dead." Something to that affect.
Originally posted by NoSoup4U
I agree with your points but, non of them are good reasons to rid the citizens of their right to own a firearm.
Originally posted by NoSoup4U
The majority of accidental discharge of a firearm is because of complacency or the lack of training.
Originally posted by NoSoup4U
I will pull mine only if it is my absolute last option to prevent harm to myself or family.
Originally posted by NoSoup4U
Lastly, I truly am sorry that you lost loved ones by the actions of despicable criminals.
Originally posted by NoSoup4U
Thanks for the good points and I hope you have a awesome day!
Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
i can run off a few thousand rounds in an afternoon and NEVER inflict harm on another INDIVIDUAL
I, as an INDIVIDUAL, can also fire off but a few and hurt, kill, maim That same number of INDIVIDUALS as shells expended.
DID THE 'GUN' DO THAT OR DID I, THE INDIVIDUAL!?
Originally posted by CudiTheKid
Originally posted by Cosmic911
I think a more appropriate title for this thread would be, "Another person kills," or "Another person dead." Something to that affect.
I think the title was sarcastic, implying that an inanimate object just felt like murdering someone.
People kill people. Period.
No charges filed in accidental shooting at Inlet Square Mall
Horry County police will not file charges in connection with the accidental shooting at Inlet Square Mall Tuesday.
Just before a veterans pinning ceremony, a woman was shot in the leg when a gun went off inside another woman's purse.
The bullet went into the victim's right leg and lodged in her left leg.
Police said gun discharged when the woman placed her purse on the ground.
Originally posted by defcon5
Most buy them because they think they are “cool”, and make them “tough”.