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Originally posted by defcon5
So did a person shoot this woman, or did a gun do it?
Police said gun discharged when the woman placed her purse on the ground.
Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
those who would claim that it's the 'guns' and NOT the 'people' have typically proven or shown to me that they have little or no True Understanding or experience with the same - firearms.
...
to state or haphazardly claim and suggest otherwise is nothing short of ridiculous ... nonsensical or otherwise, to say the least. - THEY CANT PULL THEIR OWN TRIGGER(S).
Woman Shot In Leg By Gun Left Hidden In Her Oven
SAN ANTONIO -- A Texas woman heating fish sticks was shot in the leg Friday by a gun that had been stashed in her oven, police said. Roxanne Perez, 29, was hospitalized in good condition, they said. They said a friend of hers had hidden the .357-caliber handgun in the stove two weeks earlier without telling her after she told him no guns were allowed in her house. When Perez heated up the fish sticks she also heated up the gun, which caused several rounds to be fired. One hit her in the leg.
No charges filed in accidental shooting at Inlet Square Mall
Horry County police will not file charges in connection with the accidental shooting at Inlet Square Mall Tuesday.
Just before a veterans pinning ceremony, a woman was shot in the leg when a gun went off inside another woman's purse.
The bullet went into the victim's right leg and lodged in her left leg.
Police said gun discharged when the woman placed her purse on the ground.
A 7-year-old boy was shot and killed at a Pennsylvania gun store when his father's weapon accidentally went off.
MERCER, Pa. — Authorities say a 7-year-old boy was shot to death when a gun accidentally went off as his father was getting into his truck outside a western Pennsylvania gun store.
Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
guns are inanimate objects, and by mere deign/definition ARE incapable of inflicting harm unto others without some sort of outside influence or action - FACT.
Sturm, Ruger & Company's Old Model Single Action Revolver. More than 600 people,
including children, have been killed or injured by unintentional discharges from Old Models.
This revolver was manufactured from 1953 until 1972. It incorporated no positive safety device
and is therefore extremely prone to discharge when dropped or bumped.
Remington Model 700 Bolt-Action Rifles. The Remington 700 is the most popular bolt-action
hunting rifle. Yet the rifle contains two design defects, which cause the rifle to fire
unintentionally when the gun is jarred or when the bolt of the gun is moved.
Glock Pistols. The Glock is one of the most popular sidearms used by law enforcement
officers in the United States. Deficiencies in the guns’ design make it prone to unintentional
discharge. For example, the gun contains no external safety device that would allow the gun to
be placed in a safe mode or “turned off”. The pistols also have a very short and light trigger pull
which can allow even very young children to fire the gun. For example, in 1996 the 3-year-old
daughter of a District of Columbia police officer unintentionally shot and killed herself with her
father’s service pistol.
Glock Pistol Used by Police Raised Safety Issues
Glock markets its weapons as "safe action pistols." But internal company documents reviewed by BusinessWeek—and reported here for the first time—reveal that in the late 1990s, company employees in the U.S. expressed concern about the safe performance of the Glock 22, a model commonly used by American police officers.
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"These documents should have been disclosed in discovery. There is no excuse—no legitimate excuse—for their not being disclosed."
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The Consumer Federation of America has cited the Glock's design as one reason the gun has been the subject of dozens of lawsuits filed after unintentional shootings, including a number by police officers. The company has won or confidentially settled most of these cases without acknowledging any liability.
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Paul F. Jannuzzo, Glock's former top executive in the U.S., says in an interview that, overall, the company's pistols are as safe as comparable handguns—and more durable. "The one problem," he says, "was [the Glock] would go off sometimes when it wasn't supposed to."
Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
reply to post by defcon5
each and every of those situations and circumstances can be attributed to mishandling or improper storage.
nary a one to that of the 'gun' itself'.
try again.
people do stupid things ... guns don't.
Sturm, Ruger & Company's Old Model Single Action Revolver. More than 600 people,
including children, have been killed or injured by unintentional discharges from Old Models.
This revolver was manufactured from 1953 until 1972. It incorporated no positive safety device
and is therefore extremely prone to discharge when dropped or bumped.
Remington Model 700 Bolt-Action Rifles. The Remington 700 is the most popular bolt-action
hunting rifle. Yet the rifle contains two design defects, which cause the rifle to fire
unintentionally when the gun is jarred or when the bolt of the gun is moved.
Glock Pistols. The Glock is one of the most popular sidearms used by law enforcement
officers in the United States. Deficiencies in the guns’ design make it prone to unintentional
discharge. For example, the gun contains no external safety device that would allow the gun to
be placed in a safe mode or “turned off”. The pistols also have a very short and light trigger pull
which can allow even very young children to fire the gun. For example, in 1996 the 3-year-old
daughter of a District of Columbia police officer unintentionally shot and killed herself with her
father’s service pistol.
guns are inanimate objects, and by mere deign/definition ARE incapable of inflicting harm unto others without some sort of outside influence or action – FACT.
Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by 12m8keall2c
Fist off, please show me where I have commented on restricting gun ownership?
Secondly, did you not say:
guns are inanimate objects, and by mere deign/definition ARE incapable of inflicting harm unto others without some sort of outside influence or action – FACT.
Now, you've been shown that is an untrue statement, yet you are for some reason still defending it?
There are LOTS more examples of guns killing people without any improper handling by people. As I said above, about 1500 case/year...
Guns DO kill people, sorry if you don't like it, but that is a - FACT...
Originally posted by whatsecret
Originally posted by marvinthemartian
Last year over 300,000 guns where stolen in the u s a.
That is 300, 000 guns in the hands of criminals.
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
It means that 311,291,917 law abiding citizens need guns to protect themselves.
Sad stories but people should not forget that guns don't kill... people do.
Another gun killed a person
Originally posted by HellstormRising
Originally posted by citizenoftheworld
reply to post by whatsecret
It may be the person itself that chose to shoot, but a gun is still a tool that provides this action to happen. Therefore all guns should be banned, at least for public use, everywhere! But that is whish full thinking! It does do more bad than good.
Not sure if you're trolling or not but by the logic above, you can ban the following items as well.
Bow & Arrows
Cars,
Butter Knives,
Fixed blade boot knives,
hatchets,
axes,
power drills,
saws - power and hand held,
flat head and philips head screw drivers,
awls,
rope,
cement,
socks and doorknobs,
I hope you get my point.
Originally posted by marvinthemartian
Last year over 300,000 guns where stolen in the u s a.
That is 300, 000 guns in the hands of criminals.
WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?