Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad's order

"People look back at Rwanda, the Balkans and Darfur and kick themselves for not doing more"

Guess what? More lies there too...We've been being lied to for a long long time.

We're told we're 'peace-keepers' and that we're providing 'humanitarian intervention', when in fact, 9 times out of 10, we've fomented and/or outright armed and trained the malcontents of the area for months, years beforehand, and then go rushing in there and pick one side over the other; call these ones the 'good guys', those ones the 'bad guys, and 'solve' the problem we helped to or entirely created. In the case of an all ready existing conflict, again, we pick sides based on our interests, not on who's 'right' or 'wrong' or on human suffering. Divide and Conquer. Human suffering is a bonus for them, cause it helps get the citizens paying for it on board.

Check it out. Over and over and over.

They don't care about anyone. Not us, not the people in the middle east, not the people in Africa, no one. They care about money and power and control.

You're buying into the lie. They don't want peace, and they never have. That's something we want, not them.
Peace doesn't make money, and it's not them dying, it's 'us', 'our' kids, not theirs.

"War is a racket", y'know?

@MrSpad:

You want to believe that, you go right ahead.

The fact is, they ARE involved, arming and backing the terrorists, and fomenting the citizens to rise up for 'freedom and democracy'. They've set up and funded NGO's going back years, all across the middle east. Except of course, for the countries that are playing ball the way they want - no 'freedom and democracy' for those citizens, no sir...

And even if you don't believe that - they've been trying like mad to get a 'humanitarian intervention' and a 'no fly zone', which are the politically correct terms for 'invasion'.

Exactly what they did to Libya; but since that was illegal, but they did it anyway, Russia and China keep smacking them down, b/c what they did, and what they want to do in Syria, is illegal under international law.

So don't say they've been trying not to get involved, that's the opposite of what they've been doing.

Originally posted by curiouscanadian777
"People look back at Rwanda, the Balkans and Darfur and kick themselves for not doing more"

Guess what? More lies there too...We've been being lied to for a long long time.

We're told we're 'peace-keepers' and that we're providing 'humanitarian intervention', when in fact, 9 times out of 10, we've fomented and/or outright armed and trained the malcontents of the area for months, years beforehand, and then go rushing in there and pick one side over the other; call these ones the 'good guys', those ones the 'bad guys, and 'solve' the problem we helped to or entirely created. In the case of an all ready existing conflict, again, we pick sides based on our interests, not on human suffering. Divide and Conquer. Human suffering is a bonus for them, cause it helps get the citizens paying for it on board.

Check it out. Over and over and over.

They don't care about anyone. Not us, not the people in the middle east, not the people in Africa, no one. They care about money and power and control.

You're buying into the lie. They don't want peace, and they never have. That's something we want, not them.
Peace doesn't make money, and it's not them dying, it's 'us', 'our' kids, not theirs.

"War is a racket", y'know?

edit on 6-12-2012 by curiouscanadian777 because: add comment

Any sources to back up your claims in Syria or the other countries listed? Common sense that if we wanted to be involved by now, we would be. Why is it only McCain and a few others insisting on a no-fly zone? If we (the US) really wanted to be involved, we have the means and the justification. The UN has never been an obstacle in the past.

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Well said, star for you!
Notice too that most times, all the alleged bad guys, and those we need to bring democracy to, are sitting on land full of natural resources that our governments, banks and corporations want to exploit, to their benefit. The military is just there to secure it, they are the enforcers, and a long way from being the "heroes" they are painted as. I don't blame the grunts, as they are just cannon fodder, there to do the bidding of those who hold power and to be discarded if they are unlucky enough to get killed or injured in the process.
They too though are brainwashed into this mindset of "might is right" and that what they are doing is somehow noble, when most of the time they are kept well away from any form of dissent or truth. Even those that do see it end up just fighting to stay alive in whatever place they are sent. There is nothing noble nor heroic in getting blown to bits or maimed for life for the benefit of a few sharp suited talking heads and rich business owners and bankers.

Unfortunately, we see the same pattern of disinformation - otherwise known as blatant lies - being peddled time and time again to justify more and more death and destruction, while those pushing it sit at home getting richer from the profits of war. Sick minded doesn't even come close to describing my feelings towards them!

Originally posted by Britguy
reply to post by curiouscanadian777

 

Well said, star for you!
Notice too that most times, all the alleged bad guys, and those we need to bring democracy to, are sitting on land full of natural resources that our governments, banks and corporations want to exploit, to their benefit. The military is just there to secure it, they are the enforcers, and a long way from being the "heroes" they are painted as. I don't blame the grunts, as they are just cannon fodder, there to do the bidding of those who hold power and to be discarded if they are unlucky enough to get killed or injured in the process.
They too though are brainwashed into this mindset of "might is right" and that what they are doing is somehow noble, when most of the time they are kept well away from any form of dissent or truth. Even those that do see it end up just fighting to stay alive in whatever place they are sent. There is nothing noble nor heroic in getting blown to bits or maimed for life for the benefit of a few sharp suited talking heads and rich business owners and bankers.

Unfortunately, we see the same pattern of disinformation - otherwise known as blatant lies - being peddled time and time again to justify more and more death and destruction, while those pushing it sit at home getting richer from the profits of war. Sick minded doesn't even come close to describing my feelings towards them!

And what are those resources in Syria? Are they hiding? Why does this HAVE to be a conspiracy? Why can't Assad be simply clinging to power in a civil war? Why does this have to go deeper than that?

Sure. There's a thread here, lots of info posted:

Syria - Update and Information thread

I've got a few articles in the computer about Libya, Rwanda, Serbia/Bosnia. It will take awhile to dig up, but I sure will.

In the meantime, if you want, google:

"The lies about Rwanda"

"The lies about Serbia/Bosnia"

"The lies about Libya"

See what you find. See what makes sense to you after you get a few more details, or both sides of the story that was entirely one-sided the way it was told to us.

Originally posted by steppenwolf86

And what are those resources in Syria? Are they hiding? Why does this HAVE to be a conspiracy? Why can't Assad be simply clinging to power in a civil war? Why does this have to go deeper than that?

small portion of post on previous page:

Originally posted by curiouscanadian777

Back to Syria...What resources are there? Natural gas and oil (and the pipeline contracts etc).

"Oil and Gas find offshore Syria motive for US Israeli mercenary uprising and bloodshed in Syria"
counterpsyops.com...

The U.S. Geological Survey reported that the Levant Basin, which covers Israel, Syria, Lebanon, Cyprus and Palestine, contains around 122 trillion cubic feet of gas and at least 1.7 billion barrels of oil.

And:

"Struggle over the Middle East: Gas Ranks First".
counterpsyops.com...-9682

As to your other questions, it doesn't 'HAVE' to be anything. It is what it is, not what we want it to be.

Do you think I just can't quite function if things aren't a conspiracy, or something?! That I must twist every situation to suit my false beliefs?!

I could ask you - why do you have to maintain the illusion that 'we' are the 'good guys' and 'we' have altruistic motives, when it has been repeatedly proven, and is in fact quite obvious, that that is not the case?

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This indeed does sound terrible.... I just hope they aint got the range on missiles to hit England.... Europe for that matter or all hell will break loose!!

I'm prtty sure Englands defenses are capable of shooting these things out of the sky if they even came close to doing so.... I did read those ranges but who knows for sure how may rockets they have and how fa they can travel??

This chemical Bombs aren't something you'd want in your back garden and I do seriously hope that those bombs, aircrafts, missiles... whatever are disposed of and whether that is with our intervention or not... it has to be done.

Time to get those drones into Syria to take there stack out!!

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Well I definitely think they are up to something in the middle-east, they stirred up this hornets nest on purpose.

evil pure evil

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by MrPlow

 

Look another idiotic deflection.

Your inner monologue: "Maybe if I say something cute about his use of sheeple I can get off the hook for not knowing how to answer his statements!"

No, my statement was "your statement doesn't deserve an actual response"
Furthermore, you have said nothing in this discussion which delivers any more proof than anything that you are arguing against. You just keep saying things like "do your homework"

So, until you have something tangible to say - calling others sheeple or telling people to do their homework is the only deflection in this discussion.

More BS from the MSN..


Sorry about one liner, it just nothing to say more.

Originally posted by amkia
More BS from the MSN..


Sorry about one liner, it just nothing to say more.

More bull# from the Microsoft Network?

The video is particularly pertinent given reports yesterday that claim President Bashar Al-Assad has ordered the Syrian military to load “the precursor chemicals for sarin, a deadly nerve gas, into aerial bombs,” in preparation for fighter jets to drop the bombs on the civilian population. The Syrian government has repeatedly denied that it will use chemical weapons in its war against opposition rebels.

The evidence contained in the video suggests that the rebels are just as likely to be considering the prospect of using chemical weapons. The clip, obtained by the Syria Tribune, shows lab equipment and chemical containers. Some of the containers display English writing and some bear the label of Tekkim, a Turkish chemicals company.

The video shows a poster on the wall with Arabic text which reads “The Almighty Wind Brigade (Kateebat A Reeh Al Sarsar).” The man in the clip then begins to mix the chemicals in a beaker which subsequently emits gas. Rabbits contained inside a glass box begin to have random convulsions, collapse and die.

“You saw what happened? This will be your fate, you infidel Alawites, I swear by Allah to make you die like these rabbits, one minute only after you inhale the gas,” states the man in the video.

“Judging from the rabbits’ reaction, the gas must be a nerve agent. The number of containers, if not a bluff, indicates ability to produce a considerable amount of this gas. Deployment could be by means of a smoke generator placed in the target area, an explosion, possibly a suicide one, of a ”chemmed” car, or simply by using a humidifier,” reports Syria Tribune.

Given that the only suggestion Assad’s government is preparing to use chemical weapons comes from western media reports and somewhat hysterical proclamations from the Obama administration, the weight of evidence indicates that it is the rebels themselves, who have repeatedly been caught committing atrocities, that are more likely to resort to such tactics.

was meant "MSM"... sorry the typos.

You know what? Maybe I chimed in a bit early with my post and I hope this a BS story!!

You should really have definate proof before posting a thread like this one!

The real reason for the interest in the middle east is because they are looking for something that is a game changer. I created a thread on here before many of which are typed as i am thinking. I dont plan my threads and i know for a "FACT" i am right.
I would like to ask those that frequent ATS but dont post to private message me in regard to what you seek. I wont disclose the location but i will tell you this.

There is a pattern/trajectory of a meteor strike. I have proof and i will provide. In fact i am going to share everything that i have found.
Everything i mean everything that will challenge the very foundations of what we believe.
First though i need to change my username and sync. I also need the owner of ATS to contact the relevant people in regard to what they are searching for because i have also deciphered quite a few codes. The illuminati website also and the league table and the interesting things that are hidden. One of which i will be mentioning is the Island that isnt on our maps yet they have visibly sat in the middle of the ocean.

Also the connection to MRI scans the brain and the universe ( I made a thread and it was banned)
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Originally posted by steppenwolf86

Why does this HAVE to be a conspiracy? Why can't Assad be simply clinging to power in a civil war? Why does this have to go deeper than that?

Look, here's a little info, according to my understanding of it, and very much simplified:

Assad is probably not an entirely nice guy, though by all appearances he is not nearly half the tyrant his father was, and Syria is pretty much a police state, think Gestapo and the Stasi, though Assad has made some reforms in the last few years.

His father came to rule by an overthrow of the previous govt. During that time, one of the things that happened, was a Muslim Brotherhood uprising, which he put down, brutally yes, but that's pretty much the gist, and you can then see why the ever deepening police state. About 10 years before he died, he got sick and was just about overthrown himself...by his brother, who was pretty much in charge of the military. Yeah. He got better, exiled his brother, jailed/killed the others involved, and carried on. He died and the son came to power, much to the bitterness of the brother. The brother is exiled in France, and guess what? He's all for the 'rebels', who are primarily, you guessed it, Muslim Brotherhood. (that's the Syrians that were involved from the beginning. Of course, by now, the majority of the FSA are non-Syrians that were shipped in).

It is true that the US (and others) has spent millions over the last 10 years or more setting up NGO's all over the middle east, including in Syria, to promote 'freedom and democracy'. Do you think they do this out of altruism? No. They US (and others) also work at fomenting and supporting the malcontents, in this case, the Muslim Brotherhood, ever more bitter since the last go round. A few years go by...and bingo, things start to happen.

So, again, is Assad some kind of Saint? No. Is he what we're told he is? No. Did this 'revolution' just appear out of nowhere? No. Are 'we' involved? Absolutely.

Were there citizens in Syria who genuinely wanted change and political reform, who didn't like Assad? Yes. Was that reform happening? Yes, until the fighting (fomented by 'us') broke out, and all that came to an end until the fighting stops.

Does the FSA, and ergo the Muslim Brotherhood, actually represent that 'freedom and reform'? No, though they seemed to in the beginning. What their aim is, an Islamic state, translates to less freedom, not more. (It is now Secular).

And guess what? A lot of those people who were railing against Assad for change, and even for him to be gone? A lot of them are now on his side, if only because they know what will replace him is worse.

There are also other opposition groups who are calling for change and reform, but it's not a requisite that Assad go. There are those that are okay with Assad going; But what they all agree they do NOT want, is foreign intervention under any circumstances. And guess what? NONE of those groups, or members of those groups, are part of, or even invited to be a part of the 'official opposition' being paraded around by "The Friends of Syria" and now being recognized by other countries as the "Official representatives of the Syrian people".

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask

 

This indeed does sound terrible.... I just hope they aint got the range on missiles to hit England.... Europe for that matter or all hell will break loose!!

I'm prtty sure Englands defenses are capable of shooting these things out of the sky if they even came close to doing so.... I did read those ranges but who knows for sure how may rockets they have and how fa they can travel??

This chemical Bombs aren't something you'd want in your back garden and I do seriously hope that those bombs, aircrafts, missiles... whatever are disposed of and whether that is with our intervention or not... it has to be done.

Time to get those drones into Syria to take there stack out!!

edit on 6-12-2012 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist because: (no reason given)

calm down buddy, the most they would have is cannon/mortar shells, perhaps some short range rockets.... Actually I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, or you genuinely fear such things as chemical rocket-bombs coming from eurasia..

Originally posted by Happy1
Maybe someone is going to nuke them before they can deliver the missiles anywhere.

Maybe we will see the prophecy in that old "fictional book" the Bible come pass after all. Damascus is the worlds oldest city and it has never been destroyed. This may be the trigger, time will tell.

Isaiah 17:1The burden against Damascus.
“Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,
And it will be a ruinous heap.
2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken;[a]
They will be for flocks
Which lie down, and no one will make them afraid.
3 The fortress also will cease from Ephraim,
The kingdom from Damascus,
And the remnant of Syria;
They will be as the glory of the children of Israel,”
Says the Lord of hosts.

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
This story in part warning about chemical weapons misinformation was written 4 DAYS before Obama gave in "Red Line" speech about chemical weapons. This is a false flag operation. Assad is winning a pyrrhic civil war with the support of the Russians who are not about to give up a warm water port. The only way to change that is to up the ante.


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