Syria - Update and Information thread

Originally posted by Zerschmetterling

Al Arabiya English ‏@AlArabiya_Eng
#BreakingNews: Head of NATO's Syria committee says President Bashar al-Assad will be forced out of power

Isn't that the same NATO's Syria committee that said the same thing last year to? they have been claiming this for about 21 months now.

Just saw this on twitter:

1h RT ‏@RT_com
BREAKING: Ukrainian journalist Anhar Kochneva reportedly executed in #Homs #Syria - via @zaidbenjamin DETAILS TO FOLLOW rt.com...

reply to post by curiouscanadian777


According to new information on twitter she is still alive and your not going to believe where she is been held. Turkey. She is been held by the FSA in Turkey.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by curiouscanadian777

 

According to new information on twitter she is still alive and your not going to believe where she is been held. Turkey. She is been held by the FSA in Turkey.

How credible is the information because that seems a bit out there..

Well, as far as credibility I can't say, just glad to hear some news.

But, why do you say it's 'out there'? Turkey has openly given them a base of operations there, not to mention the covert actions.

Two Russians abducted in Syria: Lavrov

and

BREAKING NEWS: Russia sends warships to Mediterranean in case Russians need to be evacuated from Syria: Interfax

just on Reuters.com

Originally posted by curiouscanadian777
Well, as far as credibility I can't say, just glad to hear some news.

But, why do you say it's 'out there'? Turkey has openly given them a base of operations there, not to mention the covert actions.

As much as I understand that Turkey are helping them, I wouldn't expect them to be accepting kidnappings with open arms. But then again, who really knows.

Parts for Patriot missile batteries arrive in Turkey | RT

A defector’s account of Syrian chemical weapons on the move by David Ignatius (Opinion Writer)

Reports from inside two Syrian chemical weapons facilities offer chilling new evidence that President Bashar al-Assad’s regime developed special vehicles last year for moving and mixing the weapons — and an unconfirmed allegation that Lebanese allies of the regime, presumably in Hezbollah, may have been trained 11 months ago in the weapons’ use.

A Syrian source provided a detailed account in a telephone conversation over the weekend, drawing on intelligence provided to him by a Syrian defector who worked inside the chemical weapons network. The source was speaking from an Arab country outside Syria where he has taken refuge. The conversation was arranged by the Syrian Support Group, an organization in Washington that speaks for moderate elements of the opposition Free Syrian Army.

This information comes with a caveat: The Syrian sources want to alert the United States to dangers there partly in the hope of encouraging greater American involvement with the opposition. For some historical context, readers should recall the Iraqi defector known as “Curveball,” who made allegations about Iraqi chemical weapons a decade ago that bolstered the case for war — but turned out to be fabrications. Seeking corroboration for the Syrian report, I checked it with knowledgeable, independent sources, who confirmed some of the details. With that support, I want to share it with readers.

According to the defector’s account, two senior Syrian officers moved about 100 kilograms of chemical weapons materials from a secret military base in January. The base was in a village called Nasiriyah, about 50 to 60 kilometers northeast of Damascus.

The officers placed the chemicals in a civilian vehicle and were seen driving across a bridge in the direction of the highway toward Lebanon, the Syrian source said. Two days later, he continued, two men with Lebanese accents arrived at the Nasiriyah base and were given training in how to combine and activate the chemicals, as well as the proper safety precautions in handling them.

Rumors about possible movement of Syrian chemical weapons have been spreading recently in the Middle East. But U.S. officials don’t appear to have any evidence that chemical weapons have actually been moved anywhere outside Syria.

The Syrian source also described construction of special trucks, which could transport and mix the weapons, at a workshop in the Damascus suburb of Dummar. This workshop was part of a network of secret research facilities known in Arabic as the “Bohous,” the source said. Construction of these mobile laboratories began in the summer of 2011, a few months after revolutionaries began threatening Assad’s regime.

In the Dummar workshop, the Syrian source said, technicians constructed a mobile lab that could combine and activate so-called “binary” chemical weapons agents. These mobile mixers were constructed inside Mercedes or Volvo trucks that appeared, from the outside, to be similar to refrigerator trucks. Inside were storage tanks, pipes and a motor to drive the mixing machinery, the defector said.

The defector estimated that 10 to 15 of these mobile laboratories had been constructed. An independent source said these numbers were high, but he confirmed that the Syrians do have mobile labs.

Drawing on the defector’s reports, the Syrian opposition quietly gave Lebanese officials a description of the trucks about six weeks ago, so that they could monitor whether the vehicles were crossing into Lebanon with chemical weapons on board. Since then, none has apparently been seen near the border.

The Nasiriyah facility is near the town of Qalamoon. People who worked at the base spoke often of visits there by Maher al-Assad, the president’s brother, who commands the elite military unit known as the Republican Guard. He is thought to be the military leader of the savage campaign against Syrian rebels, which has led to the deaths of an estimated 40,000 people over the past 20 months.

An independent source confirmed that both the Dummar and Nasiriyah facilities mentioned by the defector are, indeed, part of the Syrian chemical weapons network.

What should we make of these reports? First, the Syrian chemical-warfare capability may be even more dangerous than people had thought, because the weapons can be moved to other locations and mixed en route. And, second, there’s a significant risk of proliferation to other groups, such as Hezbollah, which could pose a global terrorist threat.

This new information underlines that the war in Syria contains seeds of a wider and more dangerous conflict. The warning light is flashing: Handle urgently, and with care.

somehow I couldn't post the link in here, it's from 'Washington Post Opinions'

Syria launches more Scud missiles at rebels (CBS)

Thanks for the updates guys

Here's today's posts from the blog SyrianPerspective (again-strong language/severe perspective warning; this guy is a super patriot who see's the 'rebels' as vermin):

FIRST POST - DECEMBER 20, 2012 - NEWS TO CHEW ON FROM THE WORLD OF FACT AND FANTASY
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SECOND POST - DECEMBER 20, 2012 - ASTOUNDING DEFEAT OF TERRORISTS AT YARMOUK; BONE CRUSHING BLOW TO AMERICAN OPERATION "ZERO HOUR"
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All along Salahuddin Al-Ayoubi Avenue in the Yarmouk Camp are bodies of slain terrorist rats. The Syrian army is not permitting any photographs of the scene, but, Monzer and his friend in Military Intelligence, Sgt. Afif -----, have traveled along the road and witnessed the crushing blow the Syrian Army delivered to the vicious, disease-carrying vermin whom the American enablers in Jordan thought would be the lancet which would puncture the power base of the Syrian President and the Ba'ath Party. Failure is massive. Americans must abandon this sick project and bring foreign policy back to a realm of reason lest their prestige as masters of mayhem be reduced to the plaintive whimpers of an has-been empire.

THIRD POST - DECEMBER 20, 2012 - DANNY THE SYRIAN PRIZE FOR CREATIVE JOURNALISM AWARDED ALISM
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LOL

This trophy can only be awarded to a rare journalist; oh, not one who makes up stories about events. No, that would be easy. This award is given to those rare reporters who combine both the ambition to get the scoop and the willingness to create the story in order to get it. Danny, the fountainhead of this kind of journalism called "creative factual special effects" spent over 12 months assembling a crew of cinematographers, sound men, editors, gaffers, best boys and continuity editors in order to make films about the battles in Homs, Syria, realistic and believable. He dodged bullets, artillery, shrapnel. He empathized with wounded children, abandoned women, doctors and democracy-loving Wahhabist terrorists. He brought the horror of war from Shepperton Studios near London to CNN studios where luminaries, such as Anderson Cooper, were given the opportunity to make absolute fools of themselves with impunity.

And now, without further ado, we announce this year's SyrPer DANNY THE SYRIAN PRIZE WINNER FOR CREATIVE JOURNALISM AND FRAUD. The winner by an overwhelming vote is none other than NBC's renowned impresario of schlock: RICHARD ENGEL!!!!

He was to enter "fake journalism immortality" the moment he got the idea to set up a story to buttress the State Department's media war on Syria. With the help of Wilbur Snade, former CIA psyops specialist and media maven, and Penelope Pfuff of NBC, he drew up a story that was sure to fascinate the public. Of course, it would have to be believable first. The only problem was that Richard suffers from dyslexia which caused him to misread the draft of his script and completely screw up his story, hence, his arrival here, at the gateway to stardom through journalistic fakery.

US officials doubt claims of a chemical attack in Syria made by the rebels. They say that the evidence in the video is inconsistent with Sarin gas. Sarin is odorless, and a tiny amount causes death, where the victims claim to have inhaled large amounts. The symptoms are consistent with other chemicals such as chlorine, or they could simply be a major asthma attack.

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A Syrian MiG-23 pilot ordered to attack Aleppo fled to Turkey, according to TheAviationist.com. The report states that after crossing the border the pilot responded to radio calls and requested asylum. The MiG was intercepted by Turkish F-4 Phantoms on a routine patrol, and escorted to the ground at Adana Air Base.

Just checking inwith some information.. An interesting videoI came across tonight which apparently is a phone call between a fighter in Syria and a Lebenese Politician. Hard to confirm whether the translation is accurate but I will throw it up anyway.



With that, would like to throw this video up also. Just some more evidence from on the ground..

Thanks for continuing to post info everyone.

Here is a transcript of President Assad's recent speech:

"Speech by Bashar al-Assad on
Syrian crisis"

www.voltairenet.org...

NMSyria ‏@NMSyria
Seems official. FSA announces the start of the "Battle for #Damascus" to liberate the city. || #Syria

reports of ruthless shelling throughout Damascus today, according to activists on Twitter

Originally posted by Zerschmetterling

NMSyria ‏@NMSyria
Seems official. FSA announces the start of the "Battle for #Damascus" to liberate the city. || #Syria

reports of ruthless shelling throughout Damascus today, according to activists on Twitter

Please do not use NMSyria ‏ for creditability as the clashes that were supposedly reported by our Mainstream News outlets are very highly exaggerated remember July anyone? or maybe should i say damascus volcano?

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


well even the MSM says it now, so apparently he was right. Heavy fights in Jobar, Damaskus for example. A lot of military bases are falling in the north of Syria into the rebel's hands too.

The rebels have received A LOT of new sophisticated weaponry in the last few weeks, videos on YouTube show a lot of destroyed tanks/other vehicles and firings of MIGs become pretty frequent these days.

This Website collects YouTube videos and has some articles about the new weaponry, if you're interested.

Turkey fires back after Syrian shell hits: report

reply to post by Zerschmetterling

well even the MSM says it now, so apparently he was right. Heavy fights in Jobar, Damaskus for example. A lot of military bases are falling in the north of Syria into the rebel's hands too.

The same MSM that was saying the same thing about last summer about Damascus? and what happened then? when the SAA won why didn't our Terrorist loving media report on it?.

Lets not forget. As soon as rebels make small gains, they are reverberated in MSM. But rebels cannot win this war and not on their own.

This Website collects YouTube videos and has some articles about the new weaponry, if you're interested.

Ah yes how very credible this same guy who claimed that he has proof that Assad was behind the university bombing and to date he hasn't shared it.

well then I guess this thread is useless, since everything posted is bull# anyways Who do you trust then? You don't trust activists, you don't trust MSM (for obvious reasons) - do you trust the official Syrian regime's publications only or not even them?

How about you enlighten me what's real and what's not so I save myself some time