The GOP is sunk and Obama's legacy will be carnage. Rise of the 3rd Parties guranteed.

First to the GOP and Status Quo GOP backers

You're sunk. The outdated Cold War absolutist warmonger fundamentalist Christian thing finally caught up. The true thoughts on women coming front and center, by way of Gingrich, Santorum, et al...nail in the coffin. All I heard from women around me this whole election season is how CREEPY and SCARY the GOP choices were.

You ran Fundie Winger whack jobs, and you got what you deserved.

The unabashed Pro War/Pro Israel rhetoric actually hurt you too, but little do the Obama dupes realize Obama is just as much Pro War, but a little less friendly with Israel and psychopath Netanyahu (good thing).

You guys threw Ron Paul and Delegates under the bus. You cheated, you mocked, slandered, alienated a whole voter base which could have very well been a factor in the final election numbers. A voter base that could of struck a deal with you, but you didn't want it. You wanted to run the handsome tall Ken Doll which had a different opinion every week on same issues.

Your base is sunk. I hope all GOP voters and supporters fall into oblivion. I shall REVEL in the fact that the GOP dies off painfully and slowly for what you did to Ron Paul and supporters. You'll never be the same. We warned you this would happen, you didn't listen.

TO THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS

Your guy won. He's inherited a really crappy economy from the last guy, himself. The ultra Keynesian approach of his won't work. Central planning is NOT working. As a model it's shown itself to be useless in the last decade, especially when cozying up to banking Oligarchs and game riggers like Goldman Sachs and Co.

His Healthcare plan is going to CRACK whatever industry is left. It's already happening as companies are laying off as we speak from the storm they see coming. HINT: they have million dollar experts telling them exactly what they should expect on their balance sheets, and they're taking action. Obama and Dems somehow thought they knew better than these companies? The arrogance.

This economy is now Obama's baby, and thus the Democrat's hot potato. You ain't seen nothing yet. This bottom up restructuring of economics mixed with protecting the Wall Street Corporatists Oligarchs with the Fed Reserve.....is NEVER EVER EVER going to work.

Socially, the stigma of being called a 'racist' every time you speak out against the Dems or Obama is wearing thinner and thinner on the "other than black" populations. I say this because it is going to be a factor. Demographics are an important part of voting and political trends. The social aspect of Obama being the "black' President or his fans feeling a second election is a mandate to attack non blacks, is going to wear very very thin in the coming 4 years.

If Obama goes to war, his popularity will drop like a bowling ball. He has no solution for growth and hius cabinet can't find 'revenue' from the peasants (us).

CALIFORNIA......a large part of this engine....is BROKE. We have cities which boast near 30% unemployment, not seen on the news. MSNBC or FOX. We're going to go belly up soon based on the economic theories of tax and spend and jobless recovery...which doesn't exist.

GOP is toast and Obama is going to go down as one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history putting a black mark on the DNC

The time is now for Libertarians and Independents to make the climb up.

I wholeheartedly agree.

The root of republican ideals as espoused by GOP candidates is and will always be libertarian. Small government, free enterprise, inalienable rights to speech, arms, and property. The GOP gives lipservice to these ideals, but the are true Libertarian ideals. They failed because they ran on another flavor of politics coming from the same source. A poisoned source. The democrats and republicans have shown their true colors. I believe the future lies with Constitutionalist and libertarians.

Dems and reps have run a platform of cherry picking which rights to abrogate from one group of people or another. All while they seek to enrich themselves off our backs.

The time has come to end them.

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You might be on to something with the theory.

Do you think now is the time to start the outlining and detailing ?

How exactly will the "new" system get rid of the current problems and the people running things ?

How do you prevent the same corruption from infiltrating a new system ?

Start with the easy ones and go for the worst problems.......

Details are the key.

Begin List Here:

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Wait until 2016 and the inevitable Christie/Rubio, or Rubio/Christie ticket, and then will see if you're correct or not.

Candidates for "worst president in history" generally don't get landslide reelections


I agree with you though concerning third party candidates and have voted, and will vote, third party until our major presidential debates involve 3 or more candidates

The economy is getting better by every metric, EXCEPT the National debt, what are you gonna do when you can't bash on this anymore?

I don't think we will have anymore elections in the USSA.
It we do they will be rigged as Hell. We are heading in the wrong direction when it comes to truth and justice.

Originally posted by Thepump
The economy is getting better by every metric, EXCEPT the National debt, what are you gonna do when you can't bash on this anymore?

Haha! You are quite a comedian or delusional. Guess you did not hear Ron Paul said is was too late. He knows the economy better than any politician and I don't even know why I took the time to post this response to you.

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

Originally posted by Thepump
The economy is getting better by every metric, EXCEPT the National debt, what are you gonna do when you can't bash on this anymore?

Haha! You are quite a comedian or delusional. Guess you did not hear Ron Paul said is was too late. He knows the economy better than any politician and I don't even know why I took the time to post this response to you.

What ever, conservatives have been saying we are doomed for 70 years.

Ron Paul is a dinosaur

Originally posted by Hawking
Candidates for "worst president in history" generally don't get landslide reelections

Landslide reelection? 50.005% is about as far from a "Landslide" as you can get. Obama was as close to losing as he was to winning...

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The main two have quickly become off-the-wall nightclubs... Case in point:

Originally posted by Thepump
The economy is getting better by every metric, EXCEPT the National debt, what are you gonna do when you can't bash on this anymore?

Sounds like someone needs to turn the propaganda down. The QEternity's diminishing returns are becoming more apparent. All it is is smoke and mirrors, always destined for short term gains for the very rich while creating longterm misery for the peasants. The dollar's exponential loss of value will continue which results in a harsh unofficial tax on the poor and middle class.

The layoff announcements started within a week of the election. Obamacare and the near certainty of higher taxes will keep any sane businessman from hiring. Unless he's an administration crony getting subsidized by the middle class.
Only via government and corporate statist propaganda is the economy improving in any way.

The OP is correct.

The only positive thing about this election is that now we have certainty about the coming collapse. With Romney there might have been a smidgen of hope but it more than likely would've just put it off a little longer. Certainty allows one to prepare themselves mentally and otherwise.

From the ruins a phoenix of liberty could possibly arise. There are other, darker possibilities too. We are entering a very dangerous period that could go many ways.

Originally posted by PaxVeritas

This economy is now Obama's baby, and thus the Democrat's hot potato. You ain't seen nothing yet. This bottom up restructuring of economics mixed with protecting the Wall Street Corporatists Oligarchs with the Fed Reserve.....is NEVER EVER EVER going to work.

Socially, the stigma of being called a 'racist' every time you speak out against the Dems or Obama is wearing thinner and thinner on the "other than black" populations.

Glad it is... Now when things improve, we will be 100% sure it had nothing to do with conservatism.

We will be able to see that conservatism started this disaster and moderate liberalism cleaned it up.

The corporatism is conservative Americas calling card.

Who destroyed Glass Steagall in the first place? Thats right, it was the brain child of three conservative
free marketeers who designed the accounting scam that lead to the crash.

Or in more recent times, WHO in the world tried to protect the banks from losing their revenue stream from
student loans???

Oh ya

Conservatives

Who blocked all the underwater mortgage relief and restructuring??

Oh ya

Conservatives

Who blocked several house investigations into high gas prices?

Oh ya

Conservatives

Who is trying to roll back capital reserve standards for banks AGAIN???

I haven't seen anyone call anyone a racist, I did see a charge of retard, but that makes sense in that case.

Originally posted by pierregustavetoutant

Originally posted by Thepump
The economy is getting better by every metric, EXCEPT the National debt, what are you gonna do when you can't bash on this anymore?

Sounds like someone needs to turn the propaganda down. The QEternity's diminishing returns are becoming more apparent. All it is is smoke and mirrors, always destined for short term gains for the very rich while creating longterm misery for the peasants. The dollar's exponential loss of value will continue which results in a harsh unofficial tax on the poor and middle class.

Gee I just lowered my mortgage $200 and I got $40,000 to start a business, QE is doing fine by me.

The layoff announcements started within a week of the election. Obamacare and the near certainty of higher taxes will keep any sane businessman from hiring. Unless he's an administration crony getting subsidized by the middle class.

Well thats funny because my job just hired 5 people this week.

I am quitting and hiring two myself

Only via government and corporate statist propaganda is the economy improving in any way.

Only in the right wing bubble is it not improving.

The only positive thing about this election is that now we have certainty about the coming collapse. With Romney there might have been a smidgen of hope but it more than likely would've just put it off a little longer. Certainty allows one to prepare themselves mentally and otherwise.

From the ruins a phoenix of liberty could possibly arise. There are other, darker possibilities too. We are entering a very dangerous period that could go many ways.

You are a very negative person I guess

Confidence among U.S. consumers climbed to a five-year high in November, improving the prospects of bigger spending gains that will help spur the expansion.

The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan preliminary consumer sentiment index rose to 84.9, the fourth straight increase and the highest since July 2007, from 82.6 in October. Economists projected an initial reading of 82.9 for November, according to the median estimate of 71 economists surveyed by Bloomberg.

www.bloomberg.com...

Paul will continue doing what he does best- make other politicians look like the true scum that they are.

Obama cant lay blame on Bush anymore- hell if you ask me he shouldnt have been able to after year two.

They just printed up money WE NOW OWE to throw around as if it was going to put out a fire.

Sad part is- they think it will work or has worked.

That in and of itself tells me not to have any faith in this administration fixing the economic nightmare THEY helped create.

I think that is- by the very definition of- INSANITY.

Watch- their next move will be to cancel all public debts -or to create a new monitary system in which they will have more control over.

What they should do though is throw each other in jail for corruption and theft of American taxpayer dollars on special interest bribes that end up being a christmas bonus for executive tom who plans on filing for bankruptcy the following month(nudge nudge)

Our govt has steered a far way away from sanity and common sense initiatives and closer to chaos and destructive plans on a global level.

The only reason Obama made it a second term was because he got a break because of GOP infighting.
Just like his last election- he didnt have to beat anyone......they beat themselves and he waltzed right in.

Obama leaves much to be desired when it comes to problem solving national issues. What has he done of monumental achievement to fix the problem other than giving our money out illegally to Banks and Corporations ?
(yes I think bailing people out with taxpayer dollars is illegal)
...but they did it anyways because they are not as smart as they would ever hope to be.

I called it by the end of 2013 in my other post- and I dont make predictions that often.

The world around us is falling apart on every level- I dont know why we would be any different when we were
just as careless and unconcerned with out governents shinanigans.

Something has got to give. There will be a tipping point soon in our nations future.

["...You hit me".... "Can I have another"? ] - that is where our nation is at right now.

Originally posted by Common Good

Obama cant lay blame on Bush anymore- hell if you ask me he shouldnt have been able to after year two.

As of this last friday, Europe is STILL spinning from Bush's performance...

Glad no one asked you

I am glad Obama owns it now

You guys are gonna hate it when he is called a "hero" for doing something that time takes care of

Originally posted by Thepump

Originally posted by Common Good

Obama cant lay blame on Bush anymore- hell if you ask me he shouldnt have been able to after year two.

As of this last friday, Europe is STILL spinning from Bush's performance...

Glad no one asked you

I am glad Obama owns it now

You guys are gonna hate it when he is called a "hero" for doing something that time takes care of

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Seperate yourself from the sack.

Thats all I have to say to you.

One more thing- Time creates debt- doesnt solve it. Genius.
Hero- hah! The Peace Prize Winner? hah!

Hes killed more people than government issued birth control.

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What are you talking about "GOP sunk"???? They picked up seats in the house and have 30 some governors. Obama won by 2 points! Lol.

If you all remember the 2004 election after John Kerry was beat, the Dems were calling for a move to the center and singing the same blues then sent someone way further to the left than Kerry out of the primaries to the 08 election.

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Any room over there in the Bizarro world?

And I'm actually a very positive person. Just not a blind one.
Other than the occasional Drudge, I don't touch right wing.
Better to seek to survive and thrive during difficult times than to embrace ignorance and false hope.

Originally posted by Hawking
Candidates for "worst president in history" generally don't get landslide reelections


I agree with you though concerning third party candidates and have voted, and will vote, third party until our major presidential debates involve 3 or more candidates

Landslide? He won by 2 points, 50 - 48%. How is that a 'landslide'? Here is an example of a real 'landslide', Ronald Regan carrying 49 states. 2 points is very close election.