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Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by lifttheveil
Indeed, not defending what he said, per se, but just trying to put myself in his shoes. He is probably aware of the list and therefore is probably aware of how many homosexuals might be implicated. All he was saying, I suppose, is not to assume Gay = Paedophile, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to say.
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by blupblup
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by lifttheveil
If I made a thread about how people who have a camel in their avitar are actually into bestiality and primarily with camels, don't you think you might step up and try to explain how silly that aligation is? Unless............
Do you have video footage of a police chief and councillor saying that this needs to be investigated?
Do you have anything to go on?
If yes, that that would be the same as what you're talking about.
The person your replying to did not "make up" this allegation..... it's out there, on the news... in the REAL WORLD.
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This entire thread is a perfect example of why this is wrong. Jimmy Saville is the main person in this investigation. He is NOT a mason, yet the tool in the video, wrongly accuses everyone on the list as being freemasons. How many more are ASSumed to be masons, yet are not, or worse off, wrongfully accused?
Get yer pitchforks and torches bitches.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Your posts state that Freemasons are child-rapists and hate women. Do you think even the many married freemasons hate women? And what do you think the percentage of Freemasons are that rape children? Or do you think thats the general policy of Freemasons?
Originally posted by lifttheveil
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by lifttheveil
Indeed, not defending what he said, per se, but just trying to put myself in his shoes. He is probably aware of the list and therefore is probably aware of how many homosexuals might be implicated. All he was saying, I suppose, is not to assume Gay = Paedophile, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to say.
Oh come on Stu Mason, it was a terrible thing for him to say and not at all reasonable or intellegent, in fact it was a very dumb thing for the PM to say.
By saying that he has basically said that there are a number of gays on the list, Phillip didn't mention gays or names, now Cameron has thrown gays into a pot that didn't have them in before he opened his fat, rich self righteous mouth
TORY PAEDO COVER-UP
POLICE probing an underage sex ring at the heart of Maggie Thatcher’s government were warned: “Stop investigating if you want to keep your jobs.”
Officers in London were inquiring into allegations made by a teenage rent boy that a Cabinet minister had been abusing him. The youth claimed to be one of a number of boys regularly having sex with rich and powerful men in the 1980s – some of whom would fly to the illegal orgies from Europe.
As well as the Cabinet minister – who is still alive – he pointed the finger at judges, European bigwigs and senior civil servants. He told his story to detectives, who are understood to have received other allegations against the minister.
But a former detective who worked on the case revealed they were suddenly told to halt the probe. The furious ex-policeman said: “It wasn’t that we ran out of leads but it reached a point where a warning to stop came.
“It was a case of ‘get rid of everything, never say a word to anyone’. It was made very clear to me that to continue asking questions would jeopardise my career.”
Read more: www.dailystar.co.uk...
Originally posted by The X
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by The X
I don't know that anyone would defend the character of all masons or all "whatever group you want" without knowing the facts. What is happening here is Freemasons and others trying to let facts and evidence be put out before the lynching happens.
If one, or many people involved in this at any level are in fact masons, they should get far worse punishment than a non member. We hold ourselves to a higher standard. None are above reproach.
Does this mean that as a lodge member if you knew of or suspected another lodge member of being involved in any kind of illegality, you would go to the police with your evidence/suspicions?.
Originally posted by lifttheveil
Originally posted by lifttheveil
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by lifttheveil
Indeed, not defending what he said, per se, but just trying to put myself in his shoes. He is probably aware of the list and therefore is probably aware of how many homosexuals might be implicated. All he was saying, I suppose, is not to assume Gay = Paedophile, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to say.
Oh come on Stu Mason, it was a terrible thing for him to say and not at all reasonable or intellegent, in fact it was a very dumb thing for the PM to say.
By saying that he has basically said that there are a number of gays on the list, Phillip didn't mention gays or names, now Cameron has thrown gays into a pot that didn't have them in before he opened his fat, rich self righteous mouth
And just to add to that, the list isn't even a list of known gays, people on it are very well known, for example Edward Heath, Gordon Brown, Michael Portillo and Peter Mandleson are four people on the list, you can see the others here: victims-unite.net...
So you can see, it is not being Gay that connects them, rather positions of high power and Lordships
Originally posted by The X
Originally posted by The X
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by The X
I don't know that anyone would defend the character of all masons or all "whatever group you want" without knowing the facts. What is happening here is Freemasons and others trying to let facts and evidence be put out before the lynching happens.
If one, or many people involved in this at any level are in fact masons, they should get far worse punishment than a non member. We hold ourselves to a higher standard. None are above reproach.
Does this mean that as a lodge member if you knew of or suspected another lodge member of being involved in any kind of illegality, you would go to the police with your evidence/suspicions?.
i ask you again, please answer the question above, i get the feeling you are unwilling to say you would because it may stymie any kind of progress you could make within your lodge.
if this is the case, what hope for those that have been abused by masons?.
Originally posted by Heehaw
Demonizing an entire group because of a select few individuals? Sounds like ATS.
BTW, anyone can join the Freemasons. The only requirement is that you believe in a "Supreme being", which is totally open to interpretation. You can believe in Allah, God, Christ, or have your own personal supreme being (like I do) and discussions on politics and religion are forbidden in blue lodges.