Message to GOP care of Rachel Maddow

reply to post by romney


Remember you said that. Dreams and actions are two different things.

reply to post by sonnny1


OK so lets say a majority of the Nation is united.

Some people are never friggin happy. You know people like that.

well said sis...well said..


thank you

reply to post by kaylaluv

1. They can. What you want is a forced RELIGIOUS marriage. I thought we stayed out of people's religions?
2.No you want me and others at the point of a gun to pay for this. Not from charity but from threat of violence.
3. You want a woman to have the right to kill someone else for her own benefit. Are you also interested in post birth abortions?
4. Oh killing defenceless innocent people are ok. You are just against killing those found guilty of crimes.
5.No you want innocent citizens to have a harder time getting weapons to defend themselves. Criminals already can buy them from the government. Fast and Furious.
6.More funding for education is worthless. That is a cultural problem. Until the populace decides that being intelligent is good no amount of money will help.
7.No you want someone else to pay to protect women when they have sex. How about paying for me to have a prostitute.
8.You mean to be sensitive to any religion EXCEPT Christianity. Sorry major fail here.

It really depends on your viewpoint does it not? Every statement I made matches yours and is as valid. It seems to me that you should rethink what you are peddling. Or if you want I am more then happy to continue to show the opposite side of what you propose but I do not claim to be as innocent as you claim to be. You have a long way to go to be tolerant or not hateful.

Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot
reply to post by kaylaluv

 

1. They can. What you want is a forced RELIGIOUS marriage. I thought we stayed out of people's religions?
2.No you want me and others at the point of a gun to pay for this. Not from charity but from threat of violence.
3. You want a woman to have the right to kill someone else for her own benefit. Are you also interested in post birth abortions?
4. Oh killing defenceless innocent people are ok. You are just against killing those found guilty of crimes.
5.No you want innocent citizens to have a harder time getting weapons to defend themselves. Criminals already can buy them from the government. Fast and Furious.
6.More funding for education is worthless. That is a cultural problem. Until the populace decides that being intelligent is good no amount of money will help.
7.No you want someone else to pay to protect women when they have sex. How about paying for me to have a prostitute.
8.You mean to be sensitive to any religion EXCEPT Christianity. Sorry major fail here.

It really depends on your viewpoint does it not? Every statement I made matches yours and is as valid. It seems to me that you should rethink what you are peddling. Or if you want I am more then happy to continue to show the opposite side of what you propose but I do not claim to be as innocent as you claim to be. You have a long way to go to be tolerant or not hateful.

Negative, negative, negative. Thanks for proving my point. Have a nice evening.

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by sonnny1

 

OK so lets say a majority of the Nation is united.

Some people are never friggin happy. You know people like that.

Yes, you cant make everyone happy. Just ask the "minority" who hated Bush, for the Patriot Act, Gitmo, and the debt. All those things, Obama has either continued, or increased.


Let Rachel Maddow Gloat. Shes part of the problem, not the solution.......

reply to post by kaylaluv


Actually you proved mine. lol. No real response at all. You get to accuse but if it is given back you refuse to respond. Typical. Can you refute my statements? Or are they at least as true as yours?

reply to post by kaylaluv


Yes my cage has been rattled by over 50 million people voting for a Marxist who clearly hates America. I am sorry I blew my stack today over someone's opinion of Republicans. I have grown weary of the mud slinging by liberals toward good hearted people who love this country. The characterization by Pelosi et al has been vicious and slanderous. The Obama admin won by slinging mud and peddling abortions and free contraception. They know how easily people can be bought. It is really sad and I know other people who feel the same as I do. Our country is in serious trouble and we should never have made this about gay marriage or contraception but this is how the social engineers win.

Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot
reply to post by kaylaluv

 

Actually you proved mine. lol. No real response at all. You get to accuse but if it is given back you refuse to respond. Typical. Can you refute my statements? Or are they at least as true as yours?

Nope, your statements aren't true. I don't want to FORCE you to want to help others, to be tolerant of all religions or sexual orientations, to try and stop senseless shootings -- my dream is that you would WANT to do these things. But you don't, so - you've proven my point.

I agree with many of those points but to be fair, I found a few of those points to be false.

And the fact she made things up to prove a point kind of discredits the whole argument.


Not like many of those things shouldn't be said.

reply to post by eLPresidente


Too bad Rachel Maddow's "Message" isn't like this one.....

reply to post by kaylaluv


Women already have had "control of their own bodies" and that of their offspring since Roe v Wade. The problem with Big Govt is it tries to legislate everything. That can be said on both sides of the aisle don't you think? But there is a point where the sanctity of life should really trump our selfish needs. You say you want programs to help people in need. Yes we have had programs to help people in need in place since the New Deal in the 30's. The problem with what you want is you and the Democratic Socialists seem to feel that Big Govt should be in charge of everything and that it is even capable of taking care of everyone's needs. The way that govt does that is by forcibly redistributing everyone's paycheck and then printing off more money to pay for what taxes does not pay for. Then we have to pay the Federal Reserve excessive amounts of interest on the money borrowed and also borrow from China to pay for everything. Then when all that money gets printed it lowers the value of the dollar and inflation ensues and the price of everything goes up. Then the liberals blame corporations when they cannot continue with more benefits. (I'm not talking about the Goldman Sachs type institution which paid its Chief officers big bonuses after the baillout).
The Constitution says that the Defense of the States is a primary responsibility. Liberals have tried to make people think that it is also the govt responsibility to take care of people cradle to grave and this was never provided for in the Constitution. It is unfortunate that Democrats have tried to convince people that govt should pay out welfare but should not have to defend the Nation. But this is the sorry state of affairs today. I do not support the so-called military industrial complex, but it makes no sense to be gutting the military and giving our enemies the advantage. This is the fallacy of the Democrat political machine today, even if it's leaders still pursue leftist type military interventions.
To say that what they do is for humanitarian purposes is also a fallacy. That is the excuse to use war to propagate a leftist ideal.
In setting up all these entitlements which grow in demand, you may think you are helping people, but it is creating an overhead we simply cannot continue, it is unsustainable to use the Agenda 21 term.
Running the country over the cliff is part of the Cloward-Piven strategy, and even though Glenn Beck exposed it nationwide, he only gets clobbered for speaking the truth.

7. I want contraceptives to be made easily available so that there are as few unwanted pregnancies and abortions as possible. Is that intolerant or hateful?

Contraceptives are more available now than ever before. Planned Parenthood gives them out like candy using federal funding. How has that stemmed the tide of unwanted pregnancies in the decades since the 70's? The argument by Sandra Fluke that women cannot afford contraception and that it should be picked up by insurance companies is just more centralized control and this will not work either.
You want more money spent on education. I have a problem with this partly because money is not spent in the right way. Let's look at what happened with mandatory busing. They could have just spent the money on making inner city schools better back then, and instead they took young children and teens out of their neighborhoods, put them on buses and sent them to better schools, then took the children in the better schools and bused them to awful schools. This was all in the name of integration, but the end result was to spend money busing kids around all day and the schools were still bad.
Now let's talk about curriculum. I heard a lady call in to talk radio last night and she said she took a course in women's studies. Now this is obviously higher education but the concept is the same. In this course there was material on Lenin and communism. The lady asked her professor why communism was being taught in a women's studies course and the response was that it was not communism being taught.
So in addition to deliberate brainwashing by those who want to espouse socialism and communism, they are not being truthful about the agenda.
The kids are not being taught what is necessary, they are being given social engineering according to what the State wants, which apparently is socialism. This goes back to John Dewey and his desire to make of children little cogs in the socialist state.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by kaylaluv

 

Yes my cage has been rattled by over 50 million people voting for a Marxist who clearly hates America. I am sorry I blew my stack today over someone's opinion of Republicans. I have grown weary of the mud slinging by liberals toward good hearted people who love this country. The characterization by Pelosi et al has been vicious and slanderous. The Obama admin won by slinging mud and peddling abortions and free contraception. They know how easily people can be bought. It is really sad and I know other people who feel the same as I do. Our country is in serious trouble and we should never have made this about gay marriage or contraception but this is how the social engineers win.

You grow tired of the mud slinging?

I don't understand this post-election right wing talking point, they are acting like they are angels, have never said anything negative, and it is only the liberals that are negative. They are claiming that Obama ran a negative campaign, and act like they have not tried to demonize Obama for the past 4 years.

Marxist, socialist, kenyan, traitor, terrorist...all things they have said about Obama. And if they are talking about his supporters...lazy, freeloaders, traitors, idiots, etc.

So please don't say you are tired of the mud slinging from the left, there is plenty coming from the right.

And Democrats didn't make this election about contraception and abortion, the GOP did. They were the ones that tried to demonize Obamacare, they are the ones that played up the Catholic church being offended by insurance companies providing contraception, they are the ones that kept talking about Rape and making ridiculous statements about them. Democrats simply responded.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at your own party and their stupidity.

reply to post by redtic


Quoting maddow.....awsome. Funny she mentioned nothing about QE3? GM? Crony capitialism? All the numerous bankers prosecuted for screwing the public?

Contrary to your moronic belief, obozo won because he and romney are the same. For all the complaints about bush can someone explain the difference between he and obozo?
Heres a better list:

Why there is no difference between bush and obozo

Still in wars: out of Iraq and into lybia and egypt
Gitmo still open
Patriot act still here
Drone strikes increased 10 fold
3 sessions of QE
both have bernanke
Still killing civilians in other countries without declarations of war
crony capitalism, instead of oil just "clean energy"
bush gave drug coverage and obozo expanded with healthcare
both passed bailouts
both ran trillion dollar deficits
expansion of executive power

You all are just hypocrites and tools. They are the same person, you just cheerlead like some lemming. They are both socialists, and romney would have been no different, thats why romney lost. Neo cons thought they could elect some tool and we would just vote for it. It almost worked. No one thinks obama or his moronic ideas are helping the country. Listen to some airhead like maddow and repeat her nonsense, you look foolish. She doesnt even know where obozos campaign slogan is from, typical lib, repeat and not know.



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reply to post by newcovenant


Define majority.

Here is the tally Obama:61170405

Romney: 58163977

So does a 50 % to 48% margin really represent a majority? It looks to me like the country is divided.

Even one vote over another can represent a majority in this kind of system, but it still is roughly half the voting populace for each side. I would say that many who voted were really unaware of certain truths, and therefore their vote is an uninformed one.

So if the country was united by a true majority....but it is not. So let's be realistic. Half of the country will not give up the dream of our Founding Fathers and the other half wants socialism and social programs.

reply to post by pyramid head


I agree with you. Michael Savage said that Bush was a fiscal socialist. But realistically what could he have done when Democrats gained control over both houses. If Repubs had gained control over the Senate this time, Obama's hands would be tied in the conventional way. But of course Obama will just use executive orders to go around Congress.
I worry about what he plans to do now that he has "more flexibility".....

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


If this administration can add debt the way it has, whats it going to be like in 4 years?

I don't think Rachel Maddow cares about anything but ratings, and scrutinizing the GOP any chance she can get.

Shes the Liberal equivalent of Rush Limbaugh. MHO.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


I wouldnt be upset at bush if he had not expanded so much on socialists policies. I get he did not have a house or congress to work with but his policies were not those of a republic, nor did he adhere to the constitution. That is the fundamental problem with the republican party. Their platform is "if you elect us, we can run these socialists programs better". They cannot. That is why they have lost their voting base. Would romney be less of a socialists? Maybe, but still fundamentally a socialists, and thats why he lost.

With this disasterous past four years the republican nominee should have won in a land slide but did not because there was no difference. I did not vote, nor did I care, the outcome would be the same. The last debate the two just agreed with each other the entire time. The only thing I fear is the growth of the recipient class, for when the overtake the providers we will have true communism.

reply to post by redtic


I'll add one more thing for her.

"and the vote difference between Obama and Romney in several swing states really was smaller than the amount of votes Ron Paul received. Meaning Ron Paul as a GOP candidate very likely would have beaten Obama."

reply to post by xedocodex

Marxist, socialist, kenyan, traitor

Unfortunatly those things are true. Even Michelle admitted Barack's "home country of Kenya" in one of her campaign talks. His Marxist roots were exposed well before the 08 election. People turned their heads, and why? He represented something to them they thought it wouldn't matter what his true agenda was. When he said "Spread the wealth" people knew what he was saying, at least the people who know what socialism is.

Whether he is officially a traitor remains to be seen....if it can be shown that he saw what went down in Benghazi and did nothing....if it can be shown that he made the call to stand down....those are impeachable offenses.

Clinton gave our technology to the Chinese, and to me that was much more important than having sex in the Oval Office.
Today it was reported that the Chinese have unveiled a new fighter plane that has an apparent design from stolen American technology. How does that happen?

It was also reported today that Iran nearly took out one of our surveillance drones near their territory. The admin says it wasn't in Iranian airspace.
Here is an interesting article on how the Obama admin can freeze American citizens bank accounts if they believe they are helping Iran.

www.pakalertpress.com...

President Barack Obama has signed an executive order (EO) earlier this month that claims governmental authority to steal money out of customer bank accounts under the guise of assisting Iran with “certain transactions” that would facilitate their ability to economize on their petroleum resources. And this agenda is hidden within the EO that redirects attention to the sanctions imposed by the US and UK.

So if you wonder why I am frustrated, it is way more than just an insult coming from someone who doesn't like Republicans.
The mud slinging I was really referring to the way the Democrats handled their campaign, but it does extend to the people who repeat it.