if you vote for Obama or Romney you're an idiot

reply to post by meeee


It seems fairly obvious to me that you are Trolling but on the off chance that you are being intellectually honest here.

Just saying NO is not an answer

It is when you ask yes and no questions. If I had said yes you wouldn't have a problem.

I just need to point out that by your circular logic because you have turned a blind eye to those in power and havn’t even tried to vote them out that makes you just as culpable.

That’s what your logic dictates I however live in the real world and do not prescribe to your way of thinking.

I find your logic as sick and twisted and with each post you make your sickness shows even more. Attacking my military career and me personally even going as far as accusing me of advocating murder and torcher takes great leaps of logic. It is obvious that you have issues but there is no need to spread filth and lies. I do doubt that you will cease such things because that is the nature of people that swallowed such propaganda and now preach it.

Just to let you know I am proud of my military service and there is nothing you can say that changes that nor do your insults strike any cords because nothing you have said is remotely true of my experience. If your posts were meant to incite anger they feel short I recognize that you need help so you have my sympathies.

lets go by what romney-obama are about..


romney are for drilling/fracking and raping this planet for money...

obama admin recently passed the rule where by 2020 all vehicles on the road must get at least 50 mpg...


romney will most likely allow attacks into Iran and ruin relationships around the world, that is what the powers that were want...to create new enemies to eventually go bomb..

obama is against that...

romney is a mormon, do you even know what they believe?

obama is not, lol, thank you!


now whatever i know some shills are going to try and bash obama and prop up romney...


romney are you serious?????


hello romney supporter...what is romney about? rich people oh yeah, do not lie to me or yourself, please
he does not care about the 47% you and i know this...


why the mass dilussion with romney supporters?


do you think he cares about you?

please look at romneys soul...HE IS SERVICE TO SELF TYPE BEING..




i'm voting for Obama
i am following my heart.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

This shows who's really in charge. The presidential race is just a friendly competition between the power mad.

reply to post by Dishonored


I've been saying the same thing all along - that's why I call them both "Obamney". there isn't a nickle's worth of difference between them, and it really doesn't matter which wins... it will just be more of the same.

At the moment, both camps are desperately trying to highlight "differences", which have ALL been manufactured in recent weeks. There ARE no actual differences, just talking points for the talking heads, and the lemmings are dutifully repeating them verbatim in a sad attempt to convince the thinking that there is some nebulous "difference".

It was designed this way, just as the 2008 election between Obamey 1 and McCain was engineered to make no practical difference. It didn't matter which "won" in that election, either - WE were in for the same song and dance, whichever took the stage.

I'll visit a voting booth again if they ever run candidates who have a practical difference. Until then, I'll employ other means of voting than merely pulling a lever and calling it a day.

Well, the worst thing you can do is vote for Romney....He still thinks America is on war with Russia and believe me...he will drag us all into WW3 with Russia and China....So If you really want the world to end by december 21th 2012....and the apocalypse...well go ahead and vote for Romney...because the way I see it, this is the only way that preduiction about the end of the world could really happen...

Originally posted by cornucopia
lets go by what romney-obama are about..

They both talk a different game so we feel we have a choice. They appeal to the the extremes of our nature. They're just working their way up the ladder of Illumicorp.

Happy Halloween!

reply to post by Dishonored


In my humble opinion you are the idiot and a fool. Just my opinion.

Originally posted by Ulrir
Well, the worst thing you can do is vote for Romney....He still thinks America is on war with Russia and believe me...he will drag us all into WW3 with Russia and China....So If you really want the world to end by december 21th 2012....and the apocalypse...well go ahead and vote for Romney...because the way I see it, this is the only way that preduiction about the end of the world could really happen...

Really?

You seriously believe that to be a "difference"?

What were Obamney 1's bombing runs over Libya then? Just a training exercise for WWIII?

Pick yer poison. Both are more of the same.

reply to post by nenothtu


You are missing the real point. There are real differences between our candidates. One has denounced our country time and time again and denounced our heritage. The other lives and practices spiritual principles. If you cannot see the difference then you are blind.

When a President denounces us as a Christian Country he speaking on behalf of the people. If the people do not speak up and oppose his words, it is taken to be agreed to.

If you look closely you can see that our blessings are being taken away and they will continue. Our only choice at this time is to choose someone who believes in God and his principles.

The very same thing happened in ancient Israel and is now happening here. Obama's loyalty lies elsewhere.

I've been sucked into this argument so many times in the last few months, that I don't dare to try and count. Yesterday I had a lady tell me, "I'm middle class so I'm going to vote for Obama!" I asked her what she thought of the NDAA and Obama's plan to have 20000 drones over the US by the early 2020's. She said, "What are you talking about?" The real story is Republicans and Democrats are on the same team, meaning it is a win/win for their corrupt brand of politics. Most people will tell you that politicians are crooks but the same people still vote for them. Obama was the deciding factor for me, I was already 100% certain that Republicans were evil as sin. After I voted for Obama and he didn't "change" a damn thing I realized there is no hope within the two party system. I voted to get my relatives out of war and out of harm's way. I want our friends and family home from the endless wars overseas. I want an end to the industrial military complex.

I say we go back in time to the 80's and vote "None of the above!"




Voting for evil begets more evil, it's a simple formula. If the politicians aren't doing what "We the People" wish them do then why continue to support them? I say no more support for these puppets and their global agendas.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
The mindset of the OP is sick and it’s catching. Seabag and I are pulling for different horses this race but I respect him for doing so. It isn’t that often we agree but I am with him on this.

Go ahead people stay home from the looks of it you would make the wrong choices anyway. Sit at home on your couch and be counted the same as non-citizens and convicts. They can’t vote and you’re just too apathetic to vote.

Vote as you will. Play the game, and let me know who wins when YOU are playing by THEIR rules.

My refusal to vote is my withholding of authorization. It's my statement that "none of the above" is authorized to act on my behalf, or authorized to make rules I am bound to follow. If i DO vote, I am agreeing to be bound by the outcome. I do not so agree. neither outcome is acceptable.

Obamney 1 has already made rules that I am not following. So far so good. Watch what happens when they throw a snit about it. They may kill me, but I bet I leave a mark.

I have to agree in principle with prophetboy12 if nothing else. There is a fundamental difference in these two. One candidate endorses science while the other endorses fantasy.

Don’t get me wrong fantasy is great but if you are sick would you rather see a witch doctor or a real doctor. If I had a cold I think seeing a witch doctor would make for a great story but if it was anything more serious it could be dangerous taking that path.

I wonder how long it will be till a Scientologist runs for President and far as I am concerned it’s all the same. It’s all Bat $h!t crazy.

reply to post by Dishonored


I'd like to hear WHY you think this election is a joke.

For instance, some people note (correctly) that Mitt Romney is the character Gordon Gecko in real life. Some people note that Obama is a Muslim, Kenyan, Socialist (being completely wrong on all counts) or they might notice that he's another Capitalist stooge with Goldman Sachs execs on the White House Board of Directors (correctly).

I'm voting a write-in candidate because in my VERY RED state, Republicans always win. But if it mattered here, I'd vote for Obama not because I had a real choice for a Liberal or Socialist, I'd be voting because I can't stand what Republicans say and I don't want to reward that. My vote is feeble, subject to be scrubbed by election fraud or denying my vote for a typo. Then after that the Electoral College actually decides who "gets it." But I figure that if the Oligarchs who run this fiasco think people want someone who SOUNDS like a Democrat, they might have to pretend a bit harder in public that they care.


Anyway, it's fine that people consider it all a farce -- I just want them to do so for the right reason, and not because the Psy Ops is working.

reply to post by nenothtu


You don't have to vote for either obama or romney. The msm has been portraying this phoney picture for decades, if not centuries, to keep people easily herded. Only a moron would keep voting D and R when BOTH have burned them in the past.

I personally do not care for libertarianism or constitutionalism, the parties I am talking about, but right wingers who are anti-war find their candidates attractive. Why not go with them? Or at the very least you can write in candidates that do not have their names on the ballot....I am not sure about the last.

Not voting seems silly, unless like me you have to ask for absentee ballots and use international mail...which takes forever and they probably tear up the ballot at the local election office. Cheating the diebold machine seems much harder though.

Originally posted by prophetboy12
reply to post by nenothtu

 

You are missing the real point. There are real differences between our candidates.

Like hell there are. There are NO substantive defferences between the two. None. the only "differences" are of recent manufacture, and depend entirely on what day it is and who the audience listening to them are - what they want to tell that audience. Tomorrow, they will have different things to say to a different audience, at odds with what they are saying today.

My personal favorite on the Obamney 2 side was when he said "I fully support the second Amendment - but those evil assault rifles have to go!" Not quite grasping the Bill of Rights there!

One has denounced our country time and time again and denounced our heritage. The other lives and practices spiritual principles. If you cannot see the difference then you are blind.

Myopic perhaps, but most certainly not blind. I see the "differences" for what they are, not what they want me to think they are.

When a President denounces us as a Christian Country he speaking on behalf of the people. If the people do not speak up and oppose his words, it is taken to be agreed to.

We are NOT a Christian country, nor are we an Islamic country, nor a Buddhist country. The separation of Church and state is far more clearly delineated in the Bible than it is in the Constitution. Mixing religion and politics is the road to ruin - for ALL of us, not just the religions you dislike. What happens to you when the Catholics take over the reins of government? They did that in Europe, you know. How did that work out for them? What if it's the Southern Baptists who take over instead?

In other words, what happens when you find yourself on the wrong side of the religious fence when your opponents seize secular power?

If you look closely you can see that our blessings are being taken away and they will continue. Our only choice at this time is to choose someone who believes in God and his principles.

The very same thing happened in ancient Israel and is now happening here. Obama's loyalty lies elsewhere.

You are correct. Obama's loyalties lie elsewhere - and so do Romney's. neither is fitting for presidential office. Neither are loyal to US.

My blessings are multiplying daily, like rabbits. What is happening to yours? Why are you worrying over which evil to put into office rather than seeing to the source of your own problems?

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Don’t get me wrong fantasy is great but if you are sick would you rather see a witch doctor or a real doctor. If I had a cold I think seeing a witch doctor would make for a great story but if it was anything more serious it could be dangerous taking that path.

I'd rather be left alone to see whichever doctor I wanted to, or neither if I so choose. Obama is trying to take that choice away from me, as well as my insurance choice. We'll see how well that goes.

I wonder how long it will be till a Scientologist runs for President and far as I am concerned it’s all the same. It’s all Bat $h!t crazy.

On this we agree.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

I personally do not care for libertarianism or constitutionalism, the parties I am talking about, but right wingers with are anti-war find their candidates attractive. Why not go with them? Or at the very least you can write in candidates that do not have their names on the ballot....I am not sure about the last.

The "why not" is because I refuse my consent to the outcome, whichever way it goes.

None of the third parties currently have a snowball's chance in hell, so voting for them is just giving consent for one of the Big Two (Big One, really) players, I'm not going there. It's just a validation of their corrupted process. On top of that, last week it was discovered that votes cast for Romney in Guilford County, NC - just a county over from here - were being counted for Obama, so it really doesn't matter WHO we vote for, they'll get whomever they want in office. They just want us to consent to that by voting at all.

I don't, and won't until and unless they ever run a candidate worthy of the office.

Personally, I think people who say what the OP said, are closet democrats.

Because they know their guy is a failure and a 3rd party vote is a vote for Obama.

I like Gary Johnson but you know what..to me It looks like Romney actually has the experience and the love for this country... as opposed to our Muslim president.

Just my 2cents

reply to post by nenothtu


Well as much as I don't like libertarians because they are mild right wingers, I think they stand a decent chance of getting 5% for federal funding come next election period, which means less fund raising and more time campaigning.

The polls are pathetic in that they list only "other candidates" and "undecided" based on 600 to 1200 people asked. I mean come on, what percentage of 200 million registered voters is that? Yes the system is rigged but not voting third party just gives more support to the big two. We need to force the first amendment before considering using the second amendment.

In europe the socialist and communist parties are more popular and they get the proper respect.

Originally posted by Dishonored
Can someone just come out and say it already? I know I'm not the only one that thinks that WE THE PEOPLE have no choice in this election. Stay home folks. A vote for Gary Johnson or writing in Ron Paul is a vote for the 2 party dictatorship. Stop playing their game. STAY. HOME.

I really have nothing else to say. This "election" is a complete joke. You have no choice.

please go live somewhere else, it's obvious you are not an american with basic principles of patriotism. WE THE PEOPLE never give up, WE THE PEOPLE will always fight for the ability for all people to vote. WE THE PEOPLE...NEVER...EVER....tell people not to vote.