Where are we now?

reply to post by Itisnowagain


No i meant in deepawarness sleep...not consciousness. Asleep we dream and then enter eachothers lucid dream.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


Awareness is awareness - it is one.
Awareness is the screen that appearances appear on. Anything can appear to happen on the screen whether you like to call it dreaming or awake.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


Do seers always work solo in life or do they form groups....
like a party of seers?

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

Do seers always work solo in life or do they form groups....
like a party of seers?

There is only one seer. And it cannot be located. But moving in that direction is a return to source.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


Do you achieve your movement in that direction by self will alone. or do you augment that by an artifical method?

reply to post by AthlonSavage


Look to what is seeing.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


So you do this of completely your own violiton of intent with no extra support?

reply to post by AthlonSavage


What support is required?

Look right now at what is seeing what is seen.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


?chemical or not?

and if you saw me laying on train track in dream would you save me? would you care at all what happens to me?

reply to post by AthlonSavage


You are afraid of non existence so you are frightened to look to the seer.
Non existence is peace. Non existence is not the end, there is no end because there was no beginning.
What you are was never created so can never be destroyed.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


im not afraid. and tthe questions were for you.

?chemical or not?

and if you saw me laying on train track in dream would you save me? would you care at all what happens to me?

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

im not afraid. and tthe questions were for you.

?chemical or not?

and if you saw me laying on train track in dream would you save me? would you care at all what happens to me?

Are you saying that for you to look toward what is seeing right now you might require drugs? I ask, what is needed for you to do it right now? What is stopping you?

If you want to lay on a train track who am i to stop you?

reply to post by Itisnowagain

Are you saying that for you to look toward what is seeing right now you might require drugs?

I certainly dont need them. there is nothing stopping me moving to the source. I was simply wondering if you do?

If you want to lay on a train track who am i to stop you?

Suspend the idea of how i got on the tracks, and just accept a situation (hypothethical) that you walking by and see me on track unconsicous...would you just let me die or save me?

reply to post by AthlonSavage


The question is hypothethical, it is conceptual, it is asking what would happen if.....
There can be no truth in any answer to this question. Because the question is a trap and a lie.
What would happen would happen and it would have nothing to do with me.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


well then if in the hypothetical you and i are in that scenario and it has nothing to do with you by your own self admission, then you admit you would let the train run me over.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


I am seeing and knowing the happening. It might happen that you are saved and this body mind appears to die saving you but nothing will happen to me.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


Did you hear about the monkey who pulled the fish from the water?
The monkey was saving the fish from drowning.

if you are the body that dies then how can you say nothing wil happen to you?

reply to post by Itisnowagain


Yes but isnt that story of the monkey loved the fish so much that he ate it.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


I am not the form. I am the formlessness that forms what is seen.
Emptiness cannot be destroyed.