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Children to be taught 'heterosexuality not the norm' in Australian schools project

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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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I unflagged this. Should have read more. So, the title is misleading when it says, that heterosexuality is not the NORM. Ie. majority. That is what norm means.

Instead, what the schools are teaching is that people are equal regardless of sexuality.

OF COURSE THEY ARE. AND THEY SHOULD TEACH THIS.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy

Originally posted by wmd_2008

Originally posted by DarknStormy

. Again, if they choose to be homosexuals, thats their choice and I will support them either way. I will never turn my children back... Again do you have children?
edit on 22-10-2012 by DarknStormy because: (no reason given)


YOU don't choose !!! What even makes you think that???


WTF you on about?

Did god choose your sexuality?
edit on 22-10-2012 by DarknStormy because: (no reason given)

Who the F_ _ _ is this god ? Genetics determines who/what you are not some fictitious character



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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You clearly haven't read this thread properly.
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what makes you say that?



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy
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I have been around a homosexual woman who was a very good friend of my ex wife and also is respected by my children... She was also raped by a school teacher.. Did she choose her sexuality or did she despise men after that incident? You don't choose, what ever...


What are you going on about now? You are just rambling

If your children respect this woman, it obviously isn't because of her sexuality. (Please refer to your previous posts where you said your children know "very little about homosexuality" and that you prefer it that way)

I am assuming that you are trying to stick up for your children's morals, hence why you mentioned this, when I clearly stated that my children respect "everybody" because they have been "educated" that way??

I can't see any other reason for your random comment about your wife's friend.

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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by magma



You clearly haven't read this thread properly.
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what makes you say that?


Please refer to Unity_99's post, (2 above yours)

It's not my job to keep copying and quoting what has already been said in this thread.
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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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TBH I usually stay out of this threads... a least I try to but the Title of this thread pulled me in and I had to respond to the OP!!

I admit that I didn't read the actual Article that was provided as the source but in any case.... I still think its wrong to be preaching this stuff to kids who are already under enough pressure!

Its another Mind Control/Manipulation program IMO.

We need to promote Heterosexualiaty not homosexuality!!



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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We need to promote Heterosexualiaty not homosexuality!!


We need to promote health and well being



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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TBH I usually stay out of this threads... a least I try to but the Title of this thread pulled me in and I had to respond to the OP!!

I admit that I didn't read the actual Article that was provided as the source but in any case.... I still think its wrong to be preaching this stuff to kids who are already under enough pressure!

Its another Mind Control/Manipulation program IMO.

We need to promote Heterosexualiaty not homosexuality!!


Siiiiigh....

Please read Unity_99's post at the top of this page.

Your posts would have a lot more credibility if you bothered to read the entire thread.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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I have met homosexual people, respect them even though I do not agree with homosexuality. I have respect for everyone I meet.. You don't know nothing about me, my kids or how I parent... If I disagree with teaching my kids about homosexuality, thats my choice whether you agree or not. They will eventually understand what it is and they will respect gays..

Just because I have an opinion about the subject, doesn't mean I push it on my children... And with that, I don't think other people should be pushing their beliefs on my children either. Stay the F___ away from my childrens education with the homosexual sh!t, simple.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by wmd_2008
Who the F_ _ _ is this god ? Genetics determines who/what you are not some fictitious character


Where did the genetics come from? A human didn't just pop out of thin air and two humans with different sexes is just a miracle.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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It's the most effective way of stopping people to procreate without cutting something off.

Turn 'em all into homos and you solve the over population problem in 2-3 Generations.

Quite clever, I support it.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Why does this needs to be discussed at this age?.. at least wait till post puberty to discuss what sex is... i mean, children gonna be mentally scared from all this unneeded crap, let them have fun and think people have cooties and play around.

Sex education or rather this "gender" thing, should start around 14-15yrs old's classes, so high school.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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No can be "turned" homosexual, if they like girls they will like girls, if the chemicals in their minds tell them to likes boys they will like boys.

Chemicals in my head made me attracted to females. I had no choice in that.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
It's the most effective way of stopping people to procreate without cutting something off.

Turn 'em all into homos and you solve the over population problem in 2-3 Generations.

Quite clever, I support it.


Thats another way of looking at it



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by TheLaughingGod
It is faulty because heterosexuality IS the norm.
Do you even know what norm means?


I know what "norm" is, it's a social construct created by society and what they accept at that point of history as "acceptable". It was only 150 years ago that owning a black slave in the South was "normal". It was "normal" for middle aged men to purchase women, young girls, as wives, back in the bible years in the middle east. It's really funny that you throw around the term "normal" as if it's some authoritative word. It's merely a social construct. You do not personally view being gay as normal as much of society does not, but society changes, and so do "norms".


Fact is, neither homosexuality, pedophilia or any other sexual deviation is the norm


Your own personal opinion of homosexualy. Here's alittle fact for you, you don't hold any actual facts, only opinions.


Are you dense or something?

Heterosexuality being the norm is not just my opinion, it's the reality we live in.
Once again you have proven that you don't understand the word.

Heterosexuality is the norm because it's the 'default' sexuality, it's the most widespread sexual orientation, the majority of the population is heterosexual, therefore it is the norm.
Stop confusing the word norm with normal.

Yes the norm changes, a lot of times through social manipulation by the people manipulating our world and our lives, if the establishment is pushing something you better watch out because they'll usually be pushing some sort of agenda along with it.

By the way.. call me when the majority of people are homosexuals, you know, since you brought up the fact that norms in society change in relation to this discussion about homosexuality not being the norm.. otherwise, your point is pointless because this norm will never naturally change.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Everyone here knows that normal and natural are totally different terms, right? Normal just describes how individuals in a particular society conduct themselves. Something can be totally normal in one culture and totally unacceptable in another culture.

Ex: in the US in 2012 it is not "normal" to be homosexual -- most people claim to be heterosexual in our country. But in ancient Rome people had same-sex relationships all the time, and it was even facilitated by public bath houses; it was "normal."

Homosexuality is found in every socio-cultural context that I have learned about, regardless of whether it is "normal" or not. So there must be a global LGBTuminatti that has taught a few people to be homosexual since the dawn of human history, or homosexuality is just natural.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy
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I have met homosexual people, respect them even though I do not agree with homosexuality. I have respect for everyone I meet.. You don't know nothing about me, my kids or how I parent... If I disagree with teaching my kids about homosexuality, thats my choice whether you agree or not. They will eventually understand what it is and they will respect gays..

Just because I have an opinion about the subject, doesn't mean I push it on my children... And with that, I don't think other people should be pushing their beliefs on my children either. Stay the F___ away from my childrens education with the homosexual sh!t, simple.


All I know about you, your kids and how you parent, is from what you have already posted for everyone to see. Which IMO enough for me to rest 'MY' case.

You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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I'm not an expert on the subject of Homosexuality... Its sort of like converting to Islam.. not good for you.



posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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I think this is a futile debate. I was raised Christian and believed being gay was wrong for most of my life because of what my church said but my parents always told me to be respectful and that there still people like everyone else.
Up until 13 I always thought I liked girls but It was more like a friendly thing. I got a girlfriend when I was 12 but only did it because I thought it was the normal thing to do but I didn't actually like her.

When I hit puberty I started to find my self aroused by same sex and it terrified me and I tried to change myself to straight and even tried to look at women in a sexual way but it never worked. I didn't want to go to hell (according to my religion) but I couldn't change it. I told my own friend who I've known forever Nd she said basednon how I was when I was younger she already thought.

I grew up thinking I was a freak and I still hate myself but I know it can't change.nine think its silly that everyone in this thread is so upset. The schools are just saying that being gay is something that just happens to you and you shouldent beat yourself up over it. I guess lots of people would but I certainly would not like kids being raised hating gays or gays hateing themselvess. This leads to serious mental issues Nd even suicide. I have terrible mental issues because of my childhood. I think everyone should just backoff? Do you think God wants you to make all these children who have no choice over there sexuality to hare themselves? This program isbt going to turn kids gay it is just going to stop them from going though a terrible mentil turmoil. How do you know that in bible times gay sex was used for thrill and to avoid pregnancy. What if people in this day and age just have a change in brain chemistry and can't help themselves? Im sure god wouldn't damn someone who wanted to ffollow him but were told by other Christians that they can't when they hit puberty because of something they coouldent control? I know I was told that and I thought I couldn't follow him anymore because I could never change my sexuality
I looked past the hate and jjust prayed and god brought me to peace. It is so clear beg gay isn't a choice. Who would chose to be hated by so many people. If being gay results from conditions as a child then why would god getanangry for something that was the parents fault. Why can't people just leave gays alone? Gays obviously go to school and they shouldent grow up thinking there an abomination that will just lead to a terrible life or death. I'm sure if there was a magic pill to make you instantly straight most gays would take it. I know I dont want to ve gay but I'm stuck with it.



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