How the Psychedelic Shows of Your Youth Affect Your Mind Today

I thought of this one today...I don't know if it's been posted already. We used to watch it post college, pre-kids. It was on Nick. I can only image how it affected impressionable young minds. TOTALLY screwball...but awesome.

The Adventures of Pete and Pete:





Artie, The Strongest Man in the World...clearly Aspergers.

Mr. Tastee...I don't even want to know...

Petunia, little Pete's tattoo. WTF!?

And a slew of famous guest appearances. Really, it was creepy wholesome goodness...is that even possible?

Orange Lazarus anyone?

Originally posted by AwakeANDreaming
It would be similar to how Derren Brown uses Neuro-linguistic programming to replace a memory of Simon Pegg's in this clip. During the course of his conversation he places numerous triggers below Simon s conscious awareness. The end result is Simon thinking Derren read his mind, but in actuality he just replaced his memory of what he wrote on the piece of paper.

If you ever get a chance watch "Something Wicked This Way Comes" it definitely raises some questions. It shows how easy groups of people can be influenced in a myriad of "entertaining" ways. If anyone does watch the show, I suggest NOT reading any comments on youtube until it ends, that way the pay off at the end is better.

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It would be cool to look through older things like that for NLP being used back then.

NLP is no longer as prevalent as it was in the 1970s and 1980s.

Neuro-linguistic programming

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In NO WAY inferring anything moral but, purely from a social conditioning stand point...Johnny Quest...two guys, two kids. Where was Johnny's Mom? Where were Hajji's parents? Exactly who was Race Bannon?

These are just questions.

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That's hilarious.

Seriously though, the real version of Sherman and Peabody was a tad psychedelic.

I can't add anything to the discussion that hasn't already been covered; but I can add this to help uncover some vague memory gaps...

Actually, I can add a bit more; in the way of subliminal programming...it is a lot easier to catch watching the early stuff; video format was new so they couldn't layer images etc. so they hid them in quicker flashes, in small holes in letters, backgrounds, sometimes these coincide with a key word, or jingle to reinforce the message.

It seems the goal of most of the intention is to appeal to our basic animal drives; and then force us to associate that drive with whatever product, service etc that may be. aside from the obvious of trying to influence our social interactions by trying to set some behavioral "norm"

Here's an example of an early subliminal, I just caught while doing some memory scavenging after reading this thread...

It is for CBS; if you watch the provided link, it is very obvious the pose and shot were contrived for the desired subliminal image. The video title and time where found is shown in the image...



What it turns into on the slow zoom out...



Subliminal programming is not the expression of an overactive imagination or a "dirty mind" as some may have you think...it is an intentional conscious act by it creators; to embed these things to manipulate and influence you and your family. It's not a conspiracy just a little known fact...more like an obscurity; obscurity here used on a few levels of meaning of course...just like subliminal's attempt to do.

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Thanks for coming back and adding more. If you have time check out the SOURCE article. The author using the subconscious implanting technique you mention in an interesting way.

Here is a video that ties into the source article.

reply to post by AwakeANDreaming

You're quite welcome; great first post, this is something I've been aware of for several years...it is fun to reconnect and scavenge memories but, it is very draining and can become overwhelming...it seems odd but a bit of warning for doing so needs to be in here somewhere, there's no telling what psychological doors can open or monarch programming activated.

Ever since I learned subliminal techniques and tricks, they've become very blatantly obvious...I suggest people practice looking and listening to the TV instead of watch it. It's best to avoid it altogether, but knowing the techniques and what to look for is healthier because it breaks the spell, as it only takes a few seconds for people to go into a trance and actually become mesmerized/hypnotized by it. With practice you can become immune and disassociated to it's effects, and see all of it...sort of like putting on the THEY LIVE sunglasses.

I thought about making a log, but there is so so very much it would be a never ending and very tedious task...we are talking 100's on one channel during a target audience programming block. Target audience is the key to knowing what kind of things to look for...in this you can find future market trends etc...

It's a very interesting field to study, and since you are forced to deal with advertising everywhere; it's best to learn about it and guard yourself.

In this Corporatocracy style government we live in; we are no longer people or human but "consumers" it's a thought that makes me shudder to the very core.

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Thanks for the kind words brother I may send you a U2U at some point with a few questions about something semi personal I would rather not blabber of for all to see you seem like you have done a lot of research into things of this nature. FYI I would not be looking for answers, just different perspectives.

Thanks again, best wishes.

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There are a few Derren Brown clips where he influences advertisers for a change. He asks them to come up with a concept for a new company logo. The reveal after they are done is he pulls out some drawings he did prior to them arriving that had been sitting on the table in an envelope the entire time. When they open it up and find his drawing match their own, the look on their face is priceless. He then goes back to show you how he did it by planting seeds below their awareness.

Derren Brown - Mind Control

Before i answer your 'question' i want to recommend a book called Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man by one of the first ever media critics Marshall McLuhan......who tried to explain the effects of technology as it related to popular culture, and how this in turn affected human beings and their relations with one another.

The book was written in 1964 when television was still young and 'innocent' but even then McLuhan instinctively knew where it was heading. He called (media) technology 'extensions of man' meaning ..

An extension occurs when an individual or society makes or uses something in a way that extends the range of the human body and mind in a fashion that is new. The shovel we use for digging holes is a kind of extension of the hands and feet. The spade is similar to the cupped hand, only it is stronger, less likely to break, and capable of removing more dirt per scoop than the hand. A microscope, or telescope is a way of seeing that is an extension of the eye.

So what do you think about TV and what does it extend??
Think about it and you've passed the first lesson

In addition, there is something McLuhan named 'amputations' which he believes ..

Every extension of mankind, especially technological extensions, have the effect of amputating or modifying some other extension.

An example of an amputation would be the telephone which extends the voice, but also amputates the art of penmanship gained through regular correspondence and almost everything we can think of is subject to similar observations. He said that mankind has always been fascinated and obsessed with these extensions, but too frequently we choose to ignore or minimize the amputations and this is where technology becomes dangerous.

Television 'amputates' or modifies our ability of critical thinking or any thinking for that matter because it THINKS for you while you just sit there tuned in and are oblivious to anything else. Watching all those colorful images needs no other stimulant than simple watching. No fantasy, no brain use, no thinking, nothing just a box in front of you and maybe a bowl of chips in hands reach.

Having said that, it's not at all strange that people behind tv shows and commercials are exploiting this special ability of television for their own gain and money. Nowadays they are using and abusing tv to it's full potential and extent and using (us) the audience to convey any message they please. Racism, bigotry, war propaganda, negative culture influence ... all of this and many more by simply turning on your tv set while the images 'hypnotize' you and modify your rational train of thought.

So to answer your 'question' and there is no conspiracy behind it whatsoever, YES all television shows affect the minds of people watching it, not only by the content they represent but also by their very nature and the way they are represented... on tv, a simple colorful image box. There is nothing wrong with watching television but people need to be AWARE of it's use and potential so that it doesn't think for them and kids are by default unaware so parents should provide some kind of 'shield' but also education on the subject in order for young ones to become aware in the future.

Now excuse me please, i'm off to watch some Big Brother reruns

Originally posted by AwakeANDreaming

So basically id say its the collective unconsciousness or its natural desires that are driving the direction of those in the 'know' (not that they know anything in my opinion) they simply give the people what they want the most, not the other way around.

This is where I can't decide one way or the other. Like an above poster mentioned it is similar to "What came first the chicken or the egg?" I have always answered that question in my mind by saying one of the two had to be FIRST located in outside of time/space and then inserted into time/space.

, the brain hits a certain wall with these things.

As someone who is pretty damn 100% ambivalent towards the sizable majority of things in life I simply go with the idea that both and neither came first and go no further.

As long as what a child is watching imbues their imagination with some driving force or engages their brain even slightly im all for for it, no matter weather its draped in some government programming or just harmless entertainment. Since while I said kids arent stupid, they can still 'ignore' alot of stuff we adults might grimace over and think 'Is this appropriate?' and just enjoy the basic fun.

My niece is nearing the 2 year old mark, her mother is hardly the most imaginative human on the planet (as her brother these past 20 years i think im entitled to make such judgments even if cruel ) she having been raised during the mid 90's and growing up teenaged in the intellectual wasteland of the 00's. Im waiting with baited breath the day I can sit the little kid down and break out all my old videos of sci-fi, cartoons, fantasy movies and DVD's and try and get that spark of creative potential all kids have inside them going in her, given the way kids are these last few years... ill call it an intervention.

Hopefully some of the Psychedelic and not so Psychedelic shows of my youth can become the shows of hers.

Originally posted by Exitt
Television 'amputates' or modifies our ability of critical thinking or any thinking for that matter because it THINKS for you while you just sit there tuned in and are oblivious to anything else. Watching all those colorful images needs no other stimulant than simple watching. No fantasy, no brain use, no thinking, nothing just a box in front of you and maybe a bowl of chips in hands reach.

Its odd but from my own experience and memories TV has been in many ways the opposite of what you describe for me. I guess its because Im often thinking about what im watching even the popcorn supposedly brain dead stuff, and even after wards I think about it, dissect it even as a kid id do such things or draw characters or pretend to be someone or something off a show. Id watch something like Metal Mickey (kinda dire when i look back at it but as a kid I loved the damn thing) and then head to the basement to make my own Big Metal Mouse Robot from stuff dad had laying around (sure I couldnt but I tried in my own child like way... heck even tried making my own K9 once). We also as a family watched and still do alot of documentaries about a very wide range of topics, so that might have countered alot of negatives. So ultimately the end effect (weather subliminal programme laced or not) TV has on an individual is more about the environment that TV is viewed in rather than what is/was viewed...even good TV viewed in a bad or poor environment can have bad results on a developing mind.

Wow this thread brings back memories for me, I'm in my mid 40's and I sure do remember Land of the Lost and the Sleestaks as well as the time travel elements of the show.

I have a child now 8 and she finally left behind Nick Jr programming so we are now watching Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated. There are regular weekly mysteries that take place within the greater framework of a back story that deals with Nibiru and openly uses names like Zechariah Sitchin, the Annunaki, and talks about ancient civilizations. They took Baba Yaga and renamed her Baba Vanga but in that case did not make anything of her prophesies. It was more like a sign that got thrown in there. There is a theme running through the show that everything that has happened before plays out repeatedly in different ways throughout human existence. Pretty deep stuff for Scooby Doo!

I actually sat and told my daughter about how this show was using elements that some people actually believe in, though I told her I didn't know if Sitchin was considered a credible source. I've watched her shows with her and constantly point out how they interject plot points and little lessons to influence her thinking. I guess I'm a pretty strange parent, but the end result is that I have a kid who still enjoys being a kid, but can watch the presidential and vice presidential debates and critique them really well and discuss media bias with us adults. She can still enjoy a Barbie video with her friends yet point out how the show could turn the unaware into vapid fashionistas and widen the communication gap between men and women.

Oh, I loved the Snorks! Pac Man was prettycool, it used to come on after Hong Kong Fui. I really hated muppet shows like fraggle Rock when I was younger though. Do you remember Mighty Max? Oh yeah, I really hated that show on Nick Heath Cliff, atleast that is how I think you spell it. It had a cat that lived in a junk yard. Anyone remember The Little Bits and Mya the Bee? Oh yeah, you can call me a sissy if you want, but I loved the My Little Pony series, and the Care Bears to.


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Thanks for replying with such a plethora of information!

I have went over your post once but currently lack the time needed to give a deserved response.

Just to clear something up the "question" I mentioned was directed to DarkBrother or (sorry I forgot your full namel) something similar. I did not want get to far off topic because it was getting pretty interesting lol.

Originally posted by cbaskins
Oh, I loved the Snorks! Pac Man was prettycool, it used to come on after Hong Kong Fui. I really hated muppet shows like fraggle Rock when I was younger though. Do you remember Mighty Max? Oh yeah, I really hated that show on Nick Heath Cliff, atleast that is how I think you spell it. It had a cat that lived in a junk yard. Anyone remember The Little Bits and Mya the Bee? Oh yeah, you can call me a sissy if you want, but I loved the My Little Pony series, and the Care Bears to.


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LOL thanks for sharing! Don't feel like a sissy, I watch Finding Nemo more than any man should I do not remember Mighty Max but I'll Look him up, I am still looking for a show from my youth, just not sure what yet. HAHA

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As someone who is pretty damn 100% ambivalent towards the sizable majority of things in life I simply go with the idea that both and neither came first and go no further.

I like its simplicity, that may save me a migraine or two in the future.

In regards to television shows progamming the minds of children, I have noticed this as well. also, I myself have decided a while back to rewatch the shows and movies that seemed to have the greatest impact in my life. My personal theory, the mainstream media creates a general imagery from their programs as to what they want the populations to grow into, slowly and slowly breeding us into submission of sorts to their idea of the drab everyman that they will create. this in turn ultimately is a preemptive motion towards brainwashing citizens for the New World Order to come, a sort of passive subliminal messaging to ourselves and our children. It is no accident that the generations have slipped further and further into insanity and liberal ideals. this would be the master plan of the powers that be, to neutralize personal thinking and make everyone the same. It is much easier to control mindless drones that are dependant on their government than it is to control those full of personal beliefs and personality. God bless the sheep, they need it the most!

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Ok, thats Funny. H&R Puffin' Stuff. I still have some sort of nightmares about that show.

Originally posted by AwakeANDreaming

Originally posted by buster2010
I forgot one just listen to the opening phrase.



NOT THIS WITCH AGAIN! I grew up in the 80's and missed this "gem" thankfully. For some reason this silly witch creeps me the heck out more than she should.

Yeah, and she looks and ACTS like my sister in law.

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Nail on the head...oddly it seems some people kinda wake up; and then go right back to sleep; it's very much like the red and blue pill choice in the matrix. Neo should have said the same thing as the little Latin American girl in the Taco Bell commercial..."Why not both?"

You have to have a healthy balance; or you're going to end up outside of society in the woods making bombs, or in a theater with a machine gun. It's best to be awake in the system and use it to your advantage; but not in an all corrupt advantage way like the in the know politicos do.

But actually help people see the way things are gently; and I think this forum does a nice job of that in many cases. Just remember balance...