How the Psychedelic Shows of Your Youth Affect Your Mind Today

Originally posted by kat2684

So bizarre! Yes, I was high on Dimetapp for most of my youth, as my parents gave it to me most every night. This was long before it was discovered that its original ingredients could cause brain damage. That fact, combined with psychedelic movies like this, explain a lot about the way my mind works today!

I couldn't believe I read that,

I was given Dimetapp on a regular basis, so much so I was sent to the hospital after climbing on the bathroom sink and ingesting half a bottle when I was about 4yrs old.....

I have very vivid memories of weird animated cartoons, some have came to life.....I used to have high fevers and talk out of my head, one time I remember a gigantic cartoon baby moving its mouth in a old mirror from the 1800's.....this mirror also had a gargoyle carved in it, the gargoyle used to fly away and return....

I suspect these were caused by fevers which often sent me into seizures, but it happened more often then they should of....I was given Dimetapp religously by my mother who was a hypochondriac and I'm suspecting Munchausen (sp)....very interesting read op..

I remember watching alot of Dinosaucers, Ninja Turtles....reptoid human hybrid mutants.....maybe thats why I taken an interest in cryptids, and reptilians...lol

edit on 21-10-2012 by kat2684 because: (no reason given)

Thank you for sharing your experience. I too remember the Dimetapp days! Not to the extent that you describe, wow.. All I can remember for sure is having the thought "I wish there was a koolaid that tasted like this", I REALLY enjoyed the taste of that sweet nectar! Just out of curiosity, what did you think of the taste?

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What kind of parent uses chemical restrain on their kids??? I mean, i would use a touch of benedryl to help my kids sleep while they were teething (along with the tylenol). But that was shortlived, sporadic, and necessary.

Not to tell you your parents were horrible......

It was wrong, no doubt about it, and yeah they were horrific...

I was a restless child, I couldn't sleep, I was told I was always sick...ect...and medication was always used to subdue intsead of rooting out the cause of the problem....(her)...

I guess medicating child unable to sleep seems more appropriate the turning the tv down off the highest notch...or to stop screaming your head off until 2 or 3 am over missing items...ect..

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Oh grape Dimetapp tasted wonderful....very savory I can taste it right now.......thats why I snuck in the cabinet and drank the bottle...same goes for sneaking the Flintstones vitamins....I used to open the child proof lids and eat them too....grape and orange were the first to go.

Originally posted by Jeremiah65
Very well done for your first thread/topic.

Thank you kindly. I had no intention of creating an actual post any time soon lol it took me two years just to become more than a passive observer. I stumbled upon this article after waking up to quite the odd cartoon! The full article in the source is interesting, even more so for the ATS crowd. He covers a lot of different topics, most with the reality being a virtual "program" of sorts, but he does a good job of explaining certain things from a spiritual side too. Granted everyone should read everything with a grain of salt, I still find is work to always provide an interesting read or a new perspective for me to view something.

Originally posted by SPACEYstranger
Influence young minds how?

Seems like a blog post written about remembering old TV shows. Interesting, but hardly a conspiracy.

Did you happen to click the source and read the actual article?

Some are sharing experiences and reading the actual article. It has brought a few memories back for some, sorry if my post was not up to your standard. Best wishes to you!

I'm an 80's baby

I remember actually walking with mr roger, lol

Return to oz is what i grew up watching, i didnt even know there was a first one!
The Witches
Ducktails
Jem and tha holograms
The popples
Punky brewster
Pippy longstockings!
rosanne
Married with children
Labrynth
Pee wee movie

Thats all for now, lol

It would be interesting find out what cartoons those who polarized towards one side of our left/right political system watched growing up. Maybe we would find the difference is simply because of old Tom and Jerry episodes!..

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Trying to make the connection... Zoom!
When I was a child, everyone went to the movies to watch "The Yellow Submarine." That did remain with me as I have seen it in a theater no less than eight times.

As a child, I was scared of the parts implying a playful peek into infinity.
It reminded me of times when I was sick.
However, the chief thing that really had a psychedelic quality was the characters flashing up and down a giant surface in - the Sea of Infinity (but I may be wrong).
This is a clip - the title song - which does have this element but there are longer parts elsewhere:
Title clip from the film Yellow Submarine

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This frog clip has obviously psychedelic colors and shifts.
I think a lot of artists at the time wanted to smuggle in some visionary quality if they sought visions in their own way.

Twilight Zone is visionary in another way - like dreams are (I only saw a few but really appreciated it).

Originally posted by Kokatsi
reply to post by AwakeANDreaming

 

Trying to make the connection... Zoom!
When I was a child, everyone went to the movies to watch "The Yellow Submarine." That did remain with me as I have seen it in a theater no less than eight times.

As a child, I was scared of the parts implying a playful peek into infinity.
It reminded me of times when I was sick.
However, the chief thing that really had a psychedelic quality was the characters flashing up and down a giant surface in - the Sea of Infinity (but I may be wrong).
This is a clip - the title song - which does have this element but there are longer parts elsewhere:
Title clip from the film Yellow Submarine

edit on 10/21/2012 by Kokatsi because: different clip comment

Thank you for sharing. The more clips I watch from my past, the more connections my "mind" makes too. It is quite the fun experience! Have you heard of the Jungian term Synchronicity? It was mentioned earlier in the thread too. Anywho.. Yesterday I visited a neighbor of mine and his daughter (4 years old) decided she wanted to sing me the yellow submarine So cute!

RELEVENT TV ALERT

TCM
11:00 PM

Early TV Cartoons starting with a 1949 Mr. Magoo followed by a 1950 Gerald McBoing Boing.
Many more following and moving back to Pre TV cartoons going back to the turn of the Century.

Originally posted by AwakeANDreaming

Originally posted by SPACEYstranger
Influence young minds how?

Seems like a blog post written about remembering old TV shows. Interesting, but hardly a conspiracy.

Did you happen to click the source and read the actual article?

Some are sharing experiences and reading the actual article. It has brought a few memories back for some, sorry if my post was not up to your standard. Best wishes to you!

edit on 21-10-2012 by AwakeANDreaming because: (no reason given)

From the 4th paragraph into the link.

I can only imagine what a film about helpless humans treated like pests or pets by a race of intelligent giant aliens, does to a developing mind. Perhaps this movie stimulated some kind of empathetic pathway in our psyches, teaching us to be more understanding of those who are different than us—physically or philosophically.

In what world is this not ATS material sir? You could argue this belongs in the Alien Conspiracy forum, however the above quote is simply a snippet. The overarching theme is more general and I was unsure of what forum to place this topic. General sounded the most logical in my opinion.

It is very important you actually go directly to the source, on ATS and as well as on planet earth.

Originally posted by DENBY
RELEVENT TV ALERT

TCM
11:00 PM

Early TV Cartoons starting with a 1949 Mr. Magoo followed by a 1950 Gerald McBoing Boing.
Many more following and moving back to Pre TV cartoons going back to the turn of the Century.

Interesting. Earlier in the thread we were mentioning the Collective unconscious, another term theorized by Jung. I have noticed an increase in older programing as well. I still say if you knew how this process works 100% you could control people without them having any idea, as it would be below their waking conscious awareness. Election time anyone one?

Originally posted by AwakeANDreaming
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Anyone around the age of 30 remember what we watched growing up? All I can remember is Fragal Rock, and some odd show with creatures who live underwater with some nose that functioned as a breathing apparatus.

Im nearing my mid 30's and I can remember most if not all the shows I used to watch as a kid which was a HUGE ammount... given even as a teen, then 20 something and now a 30 something I still watch em (both modern and old if I can find em on the web). I got to watch everything from the Moomins, Munch Bunch to all the early Doctor Who reruns in the early 80's, MacGyver, Wiz Kids to the more obscure ones like Mighty Ore Bots, Starfleet, The Wiz, Day in the Life and Around the Bend, the list can go on and on... I still remember the first time I saw the H R Pufnstuff movie as a 6 year old when it aired one 80's summers weekend during the school holidays (talk about trippy).

Guess it was just something for me as an artistic kid with an odd thinking streak and a huge imagination to immerse myself in, throw in the near constant abuse from my peers for being a nerd or weird I guess Cartoons and kids shows, movies and the like were the ultimate comfort.

Thing is even today ill sit down and watch the kids slot on TV if any of it takes my interest, alot of it now days is pretty dire generic watching despite the incredibly increased production values (compared to the 80's and oh dear the 90's) but sometimes something great gets created and I envy the children who can watch it without the analytic adult brain going over it... that being said sometimes alot of em need an adult brain to watch given the creators will often stick in stuff for us 'older' audience (1st few series of Sponge Bob had alot of this before it devolved into overt stupidity)

Unfortunately what effect all those old shows that formed my early mind had on me has slightly worn off as ive aged along with the imagination.

Do I think such shows are or have been some conspiracy to programe our children and ourselves... Nope not at all, some possibly but id say most of em, ie pretty much all of em, are or were about marketing a product either a toy or advertising revenue, some rare gems are about the art made by some one who cares about the medium (Most recent examples of these would be Samurai Jack series 1 and Avatar: The last air bender, absolute works of art).

The thing people seem to forget is the creators of these shows will often use or take pop culture stuff to form a basis of a show or episode, this can include any thing from drivel to hard conspiracy ideas. To say a cartoon revolving around conspiracy themes that talks about the Illuminati in an episode is programming by the Iluminating is stupid, the creators simply took a relevant (and fairly obscure outside of the conspiracy circle) idea based on the theme and went from there, hoping enough people watching would find it original. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... something I think the more hardline conspiracy adherents forget about the 'Media' who tend to think its ALL evil and out to corrupt us, and every shows producer has a little TPTB devil on their shoulder. Although I believe that's pretty much mostly since the media is a tangible target of ire the hard believer can attack and control in their life personally rather than some invisible untouchable puppet masters.

All mediums we subject ourselves to and life itself mold our minds every day, usually in a direction our mind was going to go in to begin with, some watch violence and go 'Coooool', others wrinkle there nose and turn off, others watch, enjoy the action, but take it for what it is, fantasy or entertainment. And as a kid, I knew this as do most children do (maybe not so much these days but that isnt the fault of TV itself, but its still something us so called adult guardians seem to forget as we age... kids arent and never have been stupid... usually) so what ever special 'programming' there might have been in a show, if any at all, would have only worked on those who were inclinded to what ever they may have been trying to programe towards in the first place in my opinion.

The only childs programme/movie in history id say WAS blatant programming was that god awful piece of corporate filth 'Mac and Me' ... but the 'programming' on that one was as subtle as a 2x4 to the head adorned in sirens and magnesium bright flashing halogen lights... even a fetus would sit there and say 'dafuq you doing Macdonalds?'

Originally posted by BigfootNZ
Do I think such shows are or have been some conspiracy to programe our children and ourselves... Nope not at all, some possibly but id say most of em, ie pretty much all of em, are or were about marketing a product either a toy or advertising revenue

I agree with you fully a lot of programs are more about marketing a product. However if you believe it possible that something along the lines of a "collective" consciousness exists, then the possibility that someone in the "know" would be able to manipulate it, does not seem like such a stretch.

In my opinion Jung's work makes much more sense then Freud's, but Freud's obsession with sexual and phallic symbols became mainstream and not as many people have heard anything about Jung's works. Him and Freud actually worked together for some time, but later had a falling out.

I have taken numerous psychology classes and only on one was his work mentioned. Even then it was just in passing about his theories regarding different Archetypes that stem from the collective unconscious.

Jungian archetypes

Carl Gustav Jung developed an understanding of archetypes as being "ancient or archaic images that derive from the collective unconscious".[1] These are different from instincts, as Jung understood instincts as being "an unconscious physical impulse toward actions and the archetype as the psychic counterpart".[2] There are many different archetypes and Jung has stated they are limitless, but they have been simplified (snip)

Collective unconscious

Collective unconscious is a term of analytical psychology, coined by Carl Jung. It is proposed to be a part of the unconscious mind, expressed in humanity and all life forms with nervous systems, and describes how the structure of the psyche autonomously organizes experience. Jung distinguished the collective unconscious from the personal unconscious, in that the personal unconscious is a personal reservoir of experience unique to each individual, while the collective unconscious collects and organizes those personal experiences in a similar way with each member of a particular species.

I'm torn between seeing tv as a reflection of popular culture or a creator of popular culture. Which came first the chicken or the egg?

My childhood era was in the mid 60's to early 80s. Yes there was plenty of psychedelic programming on children's shows. My favorite show as a child was "H.R. Puffinstuff". Who could resist a show about a boy stranded on a colorful island with no parents and constantly having to protect his talking flute from a witch? When society started to unravel in the mid-60's with a revolution around every corner, it seems to me children's shows took on a kind of therapeutic quality in addition to the psychedelic aspect. Watching tv I often felt like someone was trying to help or guide my generation through a childhood lived in a time of chaos and uncertainty.

After "H.R. Puffinstuff" my favorite thing was reruns- they were very comforting- you knew what was going to happen because you'd already seen them. I still prefer reruns to new shows- they make me feel like I am in a 'safe place'.

Sal

Originally posted by SallieSunshine
Watching tv I often felt like someone was trying to help or guide my generation through a childhood lived in a time of chaos and uncertainty.


Sal

Thanks for bringing that up. The main article takes this perspective more so than saying it had a negative influence upon the authors mind. I'll admit he does it in a manner that is quite unexpected but definitely an interesting angle to view what we call reality.

Had all of the kids who’d watched this film been similarly affected by it? Were they subconsciously changed from the experience, to the point where it could help shape their minds and nudge them on their life path?

Just as our digital world is coded, our reality can be broken down to mathematics as well. So it’s likely very possible for us to receive uploads and downloads and upgrades from various sources directly to our minds.

For the record, I did not originate the belief of brain or visual scan uploads. It’s been the stuff of sci-fi for decades and a major concept of kabbalah for centuries. According to kabbalah, the combination of Hebrew letters acts like a code, that when scanned with our eyes release certain energies.

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Originally posted by AwakeANDreaming
I agree with you fully a lot of programs are more about marketing a product. However if you believe it possible that something along the lines of a "collective" consciousness exists, then the possibility that someone in the "know" would be able to manipulate it, does not seem like such a stretch.

I see it more like a donkey with a carrot dangled in front of it attached to a stick stuck to its back... the donkey follows the carrot, but the carrot goes where the donkey goes. TV and entertainments always been about money at its basis even the good shows since its basically an investment of sorts. If X is popular or perceived to be popular with the greater demographic the industry leans towards that since its whats making cash at that time. Its gotten worse these days since so many are unwilling to take a financial risk in attempting something different and possibly finding a new X... hence all the X factors, Idols, makeover shows and the reality TV ilk. Eventually something comes along that becomes the new 'it' and they all start to move in another direction, this tends to happen to all forms of entertainment, and I guess the long lasting trend of reality TV in all levels of entertainment steams from the need for community within the human mind, and luckily for the TV execs its cheap to boot. The more advanced we get tech wise the more detached from everyone we become, so we instinctively crave simpler and simpler concepts such as community. Where back in the day we had that as a central part of our lives, we could explore things a little more creatively. Now days the more we detach socially the more we crave our entertainment to be social instead... dont think I make much sense there.

So basically id say its the collective unconsciousness or its natural desires that are driving the direction of those in the 'know' (not that they know anything in my opinion) they simply give the people what they want the most since it gives them what they want the most in return, not the other way around. Eventually we'll end up in an ever tightening spiral of dying creativity ala Idiocracy 'Ass' and 'Ouch my Balls' coming to a TV or cinema near you, soon.

As for Jung, I prefer him over Freud by miles. I dont know much about it really, but from what little I do know Jung sits alot righter in my head, Freud just comes across as a sexual repressive with mother issues like he was portrayed in the movie 'Young Einstein' Not sure why he gets all the damn attention compared to Jung.

So basically id say its the collective unconsciousness or its natural desires that are driving the direction of those in the 'know' (not that they know anything in my opinion) they simply give the people what they want the most, not the other way around.

This is where I can't decide one way or the other. Like an above poster mentioned it is similar to "What came first the chicken or the egg?" I have always answered that question in my mind by saying one of the two had to be FIRST located in outside of time/space and then inserted into time/space. , the brain hits a certain wall with these things.

It would be similar to how Derren Brown uses Neuro-linguistic programming to replace a memory of Simon Pegg's in this clip. During the course of his conversation he places numerous triggers below Simon s conscious awareness. The end result is Simon thinking Derren read his mind, but in actuality he just replaced his memory of what he wrote on the piece of paper.




If you ever get a chance watch "Something Wicked This Way Comes" it definitely raises some questions. It shows how easy groups of people can be influenced in a myriad of "entertaining" ways. If anyone does watch the show, I suggest NOT reading any comments on youtube until it ends, that way the pay off at the end is better.