Why this talk of France as a "friend"?

Oh by the way... I'm planning something horrendous. I've told my girlfriend (who is American) that I'd take her on vacation to... PARIS! *gasp*

Do you think they'll let her back into the U.S. afterwards? Or will she be branded as a traitor?

yep, even mentioning anything francophone is a class A felony...

Krackel - I've said it and I'll say it again, it's at the point where I don't quote French government sources or French media on this board. Heck, I even hesitate to say that I'm FRENCH Canadian.

Yeah, well I will flaunt it all over!

Hey Ed:
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[edit on 20-10-2004 by Banshee]

Hehe Krackel, je crois qu'il y en a quelques-uns qui vont faire un accident cardio-vasculaire � entendre du fran�ais ici! Faites attention � votre pression art�rielle les boys!

Um, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Polish troops in Iraq have found four French-built advanced anti-aircraft missiles which were built this year, a Polish Defense Ministry spokesman told Reuters Friday.

Big woopy do. They also found that iraq had british made Milan anti tank missiles, british made Challenger Tanks, british made chieftan tanks...... point made I think...

And I notice you doged my questions about your supposed WMD claims, care to elaborate Edsinger, or are you doing the typical neo-con thing and just ignore what proves you wrong?

Originally posted by Otts
I could do research and repost all the same links I've posted over and over again about the French R�sistance, the Forces of Free France fighting alongside the Americans in North Africa in 1942-43, the number of French soldiers who died before P�tain finally signed France's surrender (and he was a traitor), but what's the use? You'd just ignore them.

Not nessesarily, my point is that France is no longer an ally, they are an adversary..this is common knowledge, especially in the last 20 years.

The only time I think that they DID side with us was Gulf War 1, and heck we had the Syrians on our side there.

Dont tell me France is an ally becuase we all know this is false. I hope it could change, but I doubt it.

Originally posted by Otts
Heck, I even hesitate to say that I'm FRENCH Canadian.

I dont blame you!



[edit on 20-10-2004 by edsinger]

Originally posted by krackel
Yeah, well I will flaunt it all over!

Hey Ed:
***inappropriate language removed***

Hey Krackel


Removed at Mod request. It was deemed offensive.



Back at ya!

[edit on 20-10-2004 by Banshee]

[edit on 20-10-2004 by edsinger]

Originally posted by stumasonBig woopy do. They also found that iraq had british made Milan anti tank missiles, british made Challenger Tanks, british made chieftan tanks...... point made I think...

First you filed to notice the main point in the equipment, it was which were built this year So they are selling equipment to Saddam even under sanctions? How would you feel if some Brits were shot down by that French Missile?

Originally posted by stumasonAnd I notice you doged my questions about your supposed WMD claims, care to elaborate Edsinger, or are you doing the typical neo-con thing and just ignore what proves you wrong?

Well not deliberately I assure you....

Originally posted by stumasonI have heard this claim many times. Coverage? What on FOX? RFLMAO!!!

No actually a lot pf places....

OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM
Report: Syria hiding Iraqi WMD
Sources say relative of President Assad smuggled arms to 3 places

www.worldnetdaily.com...

Syria a State of Terror

A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq WMD located in three Syrian sites
06 January, 2004

AFP

Nizar Nayuf (Nayyouf-Nayyuf), a Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe and is known for bravely challenging the Syrian regime, said in a letter Monday, January 5, to Dutch newspaper �De Telegraaf,� that he knows the three sites where Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) are kept. The storage places are:


www.2la.org...


January 12, 2004
WMD's in Syria?

www.rollerfeet.com...

That's what Nizar Nayyouf "an exiled Syrian journalist now living in Paris" claims.

It has been confirmed that the Iraqi weapons which were smuggled into Syria through the intermediary of Colonel Zu Alhima Shalish are now located in three different places
"The first of these places is a tunnel on the mountain slope near the village of Baida, which is situated two kilometers from Misyaf. This place is under the jurisdiction of Department 489, which deals with coded messages and documents."

Originally posted by stumasonWhat I say is... Where is the proof?

Well I guess we are not going to invade Syria nor Lebanon to find out, but I do think some are there.

Originally posted by stumasonIf you saw trucks leaving, why did you not track them?

They were tracked and I have heard that the Mossad also has confirmation that they were at least in Syria and moved to the Beka Valley.

Title: Iraqi WMDs were transfered to Syria; are being given to terrorists and Iraqi resistence


In an interview on Fox News last night, John Loftus, an intelligence expert, said that the Bush administration was aware that the Iraqi WMDs were moved to Syria just prior to the war starting last year. The truck convoys carrying them were tracked by satellite from Iraq into Syria, and the locations where they were stored are also known.

Loftus also claimed that chemical warheads from this store are now finding their way from Syria into the hands of terrorists and the Iraqi resistance.

Several weeks ago, a team of AlQaeda terrorists were apprehended in Jordan with a large Iraqi chemical warhead which they had intended to set off in downtown Aman. They had come out of Syria. This is hard data.


www.libertypost.org...

Originally posted by stumasonWhere are they now? Why haven't you blown them up in air strikes?

Well look at the support we had to take out the SOB who had them, plus to be quite honest, its an election year, maybe in January?

Originally posted by stumasonWhy haven't you trotted them out for the world to see that Iraq had WMD?

You know that is a damn good question and I have been asking myself that one for a while. I just can't see a reason unless it is something we do not want out, like it was what WE sold them? I dunno.

Originally posted by stumasonThey do not exist do they?

I think they do. And I have the threads that show why.




NAT20041011a.html

CNSNews.com Publishes Iraqi Intelligence Docs
By David Thibault
CNSNews.com Managing Editor
October 11, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - When CNSNews.com published an article Monday, Oct. 4, entitled, "Exclusive: Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties," we decided against publishing all 42 pages of the Iraqi intelligence documents in our possession and on which the article was based.
www.cnsnews.com...\Nation\archive\200410

(CNSNews.com) - Iraqi intelligence documents, confiscated by U.S. forces and obtained by CNSNews.com, show numerous efforts by Saddam Hussein's regime to work with some of the world's most notorious terror organizations, including al Qaeda, to target Americans. They demonstrate that Saddam's government possessed mustard gas and anthrax, both considered weapons of mass destruction, in the summer of 2000, during the period in which United Nations weapons inspectors were not present in Iraq. And the papers show that Iraq trained dozens of terrorists inside its borders.






www.belowtopsecret.com...


www.belowtopsecret.com...

Originally posted by stumasonI do not have to prove they do not exist,the burden of proof is on you to prove that they DO.

WMD: The Burden of Proof Part II

Introduction: Record Criticism The war in Iraq is portrayed by its critics as a gratuitous act, an unnecessary and costly war of choice. The most blistering criticism has come from strategists who regard operations in Iraq as a diversion from the war against terrorism. Some, such as Brent Scowcroft, a former National Security Advisor, opposed military action before the fi ghting began.1 Others, particularly opposition politicians in the U.S. and Britain, have formed a post-war antiwar movement.
The strategists� critique of the Iraq war has been best summarized by
Jeffrey Record, a professor at the Air War College. In a paper for the U.S. Army War College that The Washington Post called �scathing,�2 Record lambastedOperation Iraqi Freedom as:an unnecessary preventive war
of choice against a deterred Iraq that has created a new front in the Middle East for Islamic terrorism and diverted attention and resources away from securing the American homeland against further assault by an undeterrable al Qaeda. The war against Iraq was not integral to the GWOT [Global War on Terrorism], but rather a detour from it.3 By calling the Iraq war �preventive,� Record and The New York Times,4 which has echoed this view, are in effect, terming it a war of U.S. aggression. The U.S. Department of Defense defi nes a preventive war as �A war initiated in the belief that military confl ict, while not imminent, is inevitable, and that to delay would involve greater risk.�5 Historically, it has been militarist states that have fought preventive wars, such as the war initiated by Germany
in 1914, the German offensive against the Soviet Union in June 1941 and the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.6 Democracies, by contrast, do not believe in �inevitable� confl ict. Instead, they seek alternatives to using force, which they regard as an option of last resort.

www.belowtopsecret.com...

Originally posted by stumason(and don't say they are in Syria as that is utter BS. If they where, then you should get them. But they aren't , so you cannot)

Who is to say we wont? Libya sure hass come clean and Assad knows Bush means business....They could well be handed over covertly.

Bashir Wants Syrian WMD Out of Sudan
By Jim Hauser
Talon News
April 26, 2004

KHARTOUM, SUDAN (Talon News) -- The Sudanese Defense Ministry and Interior Ministry have confirmed a report earlier this month that Syria has been secretly flying Scud-class missiles and WMD components to Khartoum. Now the regime of Sudanese President Omar Bashir has ordered that Syria remove the weapons.

www.talonnews.com...

Subject: idea
from: krackel
sent: 20-10-2004 at 06:31 PM
howabout you tell me where you live and I come over with a doublebarrel shotgun and settle this little tiff you have with france? you fukin piece of shiit.

Well I guess he is threatening me. I am so scared. Funny isnt it? I will not even respond except to say get your homework done and quit making threats.

As many people I have pissed off with my viewpoint as to which I am entitled to I might add and I served to protect that right. No one has ever threatened me here until now. I find it odd that it would come in this thread most of all.

Originally posted by edsinger
Hey Krackel

Back at ya!

lol is that you? wow.... theres something to be proud of.

Originally posted by krackel

Originally posted by edsinger
Hey Krackel

Back at ya!

lol is that you? wow.... theres something to be proud of.

No if it was me I would be pissing.

*inappropriate image removed*
wow heres the same picture form a different angle.

[edit on 20-10-2004 by Banshee]

This political sniping need to STOP NOW or warning will be issued to all parties involved!

I was waiting for that!

Man, someone had to get my attention here, didn't they?

All involved parties here need to review ATS' Terms & Conditions like, right now.
Notably:
2.) You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.

4.) You will not use profanity in our forums, and will neither post with language or content that is obscene, sexually oriented, or sexually suggestive nor link to sites that contain such content.

15.) You will, if asked by myself or a moderator, cease posting any content, and/or links to content, deemed offensive, objectionable, or in poor taste by the representatives of the message board.


You know what comes out next, people?


Chill out now.
Got it?

yeah thats pretty scary lookin....

its funny how a forum that discusses the most extreme of everything can be upshaken by the word BJ or some other word that has no signifigance other than being labeled "dirty" by society... thats deep.

Originally posted by krackel
its funny how a forum that discusses the most extreme of everything can be upshaken by the word BJ or some other word that has no signifigance other than being labeled "dirty" by society... thats deep.

Yes but we need to not cross that line, we both got warnings.....

Lets just agree to disagree on this particular subject.

Originally posted by krackel
its funny how a forum that discusses the most extreme of everything can be upshaken by the word BJ or some other word that has no signifigance other than being labeled "dirty" by society... thats deep.

Thats because after years of experience we know that not having limitations on the language that can be used only leads to more threads of bashing and uselessness. Sniping instead of discussion.

The french bashers need to realize that there are other nations on this Earth besides America. And these other nations have there own governments and are well capable of making there own decisions.

The world is not a "puppet" of America.. sorry.