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Originally posted by auraelium
It was the UK MET office(The most pro AGW organisation on the planet) that released this info , you dork, lol
Originally posted by swan001
Just to confirm.. Quebec is currently experiencing its most early snow since decades. I know, I live in it.
Originally posted by AndyMayhew
Apologies if this has already been covered, but the reason why, as David Rose says "until today, it has not been reported" is because until David Rose made it up, there was nothing to report.
metofficenews.wordpress.com...
You can see our full response to all of the questions Mr Rose did ask us below:
Hi David,
Here’s a response to your questions. I’ve kept them as concise as possible but the issues you raise require considerable explanation.
Q.1 “First, please confirm that they do indeed reveal no warming trend since 1997.”
The linear trend from August 1997 (in the middle of an exceptionally strong El Nino) to August 2012 (coming at the tail end of a double-dip La Nina) is about 0.03°C/decade, amounting to a temperature increase of 0.05°C over that period, but equally we could calculate the linear trend from 1999, during the subsequent La Nina, and show a more substantial warming.
MetOfficeNews
Originally posted by AndyMayhew
This thread should really be in the Hoax forum because the newstory upon which it based is a complete fabrication. The "journalist" David Rose made it all up. He hasn't seen a secret Met Office report becuase no such report exists. And he didn't even bother contacting them before making up his lies.
The Story is a HOAX!
The new data, compiled from more than 3,000 measuring points on land and sea, was issued quietly on the internet, without any media fanfare, and, until today, it has not been reported.
This stands in sharp contrast to the release of the previous figures six months ago, which went only to the end of 2010 – a very warm year.
Daily Mail
The linear trend from August 1997 (in the middle of an exceptionally strong El Nino) to August 2012 (coming at the tail end of a double-dip La Nina) is about 0.03°C/decade, amounting to a temperature increase of 0.05°C over that period, but equally we could calculate the linear trend from 1999, during the subsequent La Nina, and show a more substantial warming. As we’ve stressed before, choosing a starting or end point on short-term scales can be very misleading. Climate change can only be detected from multi-decadal timescales due to the inherent variability in the climate system.
Originally posted by rhinoceros
Much of northern Europe experienced record breaking rainfall this Autumn, which was largely due to increased temperature of the surface waters of northern Atlantic ocean.
Originally posted by Ghost375
We have been destroying our environment. There are holes the size of entire countries in our Ozone layer. We've lost countless acreage of forests. Our air, water, and land is extremely polluted.
It doesn't #ing matter if global warming is true or not. We have been destroying our environment in ludicrous ways the past 150 years.
But this appears to just be another classic ATS dumbbell moment: Reading an article that says an organization did or said something, and believing the article without checking if the organization actually did it.
People lie on the internet. Don't believe something just because it fits with your notions of reality.
Originally posted by ollncasino
I could say that you have just cherry picked data, but you have provided no data at all!
Long dry spell across northern Europe adds to food price fear
Originally posted by Atzil321
reply to post by ollncasino
Are you? Is anyone at the daily mail?... 97% of climate experts agree humans are causing
Are you a climate change scientists by any chance?
global warming. I would rather take their word for it over some sensationalist and misleading newspaper article..
Originally posted by ArMaP
Long dry spell across northern Europe adds to food price fear
That link is to a one year old "news" (can we call it "olds" in cases like this? ) article.
Originally posted by kdog1982
Yep,they have being lying to us all and all they're data is rigged.
co2science.org...
[sarcasm]
Originally posted by ollncasino
Could I hazard a guess that while heavy rain is a sign of global warming, a dry spell the year before will also be construed as evidence of global warming by the global warming lobby?
Melting ice, global warming, freezing ice, global warming, heavy rain, global warming.
Dry spell, global warming?
Originally posted by kdog1982
Oh,and those scientists, the ones in the op's article,well,this is the graph they have at the universities site.
www.cru.uea.ac.uk...
Originally posted by OccamAssassin
reply to post by ollncasino
Normally - as most of you will know - I am a pretty staunch supporter of science & engineering, but in this case, I thoroughly agree.
The climate scientists who have been supporting this man-made stance on climate change have all been rewarded with (bloody stupid) grants for supporting the government (most notably the Australian government) in spearheading a whole new tax. The grants mean diddle ....seriously, we have meteorologists who do the hard yards to collect this data and do the calculations. Giving a grant to some fool climate scientist because he/she will backup Gillard & Wong is just throwing money to the wind.
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