Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released...

This Global Warming lark confuses me..

I'm getting bloody colder, not warmer! Aha.

Originally posted by OccamAssassin

Ice will only displace its equivalent mass when floating. As ice is roughly 110% the volume of its equivalent mass in water, roughly 10% of an ice berg will be above the surface of the water. This is relevant as a body of floating ice like the Arctic ice cap can completely melt and the water level will be exactly the same. Antarctica however, is a land mass and any ice that melts will end up in the oceans and will cause them to rise slightly(I think the worst case scenario for Antarctica melting completely pushes up the worlds oceans by between 450mm and 600mm).

Face slap. Here we go, yet more BS and ridiculous "facts" to back up the skeptic warming stance.

From the amount of ice covering land masses as measured by satellites, if:

Greenland melts the sea level rise would be 7.1 metres thats 7100 mm.
Antartica melts the sea level rise would be 61 metres thats 61000mm

If you can't these basic "nothing to do with global warming but just the volume of ice" facts correct what does it say about the rest of your arguments.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by D.Wolf
We as a species are undeniably putting out shaait into the atmosphere. Question is, is it causing impending doom or ehrmmm no impending doom. I dunno, I can only reduce my shaai output as much as I,m comfortably willing to. Reducing costs as I go. (led lighting, economic car, growing vedgies.)

Clearly, we are putting a lot of filth into the atmosphere.

How unbiased are the climate change scientists who have built a career on the premise that climate change is man made and who rely on generous funding grants based on that premise?

They might not be. Money corrupts but that whatif can be used on both sides of the fence.

What if the pro-scientists where founded by people, to implement c02tax. What if against-scientists where founded by big oil.

I try to stay away from whatifs as far as I can. It has to be proven to me without a shadow of a doubt and that is practically impossible to do when dealing with something as complex as earth's climate.
That is what both sides of the fence have to tackle, leaving me sitting here on top of a fence, watching paint dry.

Like this:

Originally posted by ollncasino

Solar activity is not a factor?

Global Warming on Mars, Pluto, Triton and Jupiter

It is also interesting that your source notes that volcanic activity is at least partially responsible for alleged global warming.

Here we go again yet more cherry picked data. Didn't anyone see the animated gif where skeptics cherry pick trends. Well here is another example cherry picked solar system measurements. If you analyse ALL the measurements from ALL 50 or so know measured bodies there is no pattern. Ironically enough some of those "warming" patterns occured at a time of the 11 year solar cycle which should have resulted in a cooling trend. So there's something else amiss isn't here Mr Cherry Picking Skeptic.

Oh by the way IF the solar system is getting warming doesn't this contradict the OP original posting !!!!!! You skeptics have just contradicted one another !!!!!!

Second point if the solar system warming in the cherry picked article was true and due to the suns increasing heat output then say goodbye to your children and grandchildren now because an increase on that scale will fry this planet in a couple of decades.

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Could you have someone run up North and tell that to the drowning polar bears and indigenous tribes being flooded inland?

20 Deadliest Effects of the Global Warming that isn't happening.

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Even if you thow out all the data from man made global warming which i don't support because of the possible
link to the green profits industry. Does this give us the right to destroy the ecology of the planet? Do any of you
supporters of domestic oil extraction have any idea the pollution that solvent extracting of tar sands and shale oil exhibits on the environment? All you need do is look at satalite photos of the Alberta tar sands.
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Our growth is detrimental to the environment and on top of that it's unsustainable to the needs of the economy which right there shows we cannot sustain our infinate need to grow! I see it's not just about ecology but about human needs as well cause if we don't care about other species than how long will it be before we don't care about certain classes, creeds or religions? The lack of empathy is connected in many ways! There has already shown to be a link between animal abuse and cruelty and violence toward humans! So a lack of empathy towards other species and humans is not that different!

Man is the only kind of varmint sets his own trap, baits it, then steps in it. ~John Steinbeck, Sweet Thursday


Modern man is the missing link between apes and human beings. ~Author Unknown


There are too many people, and too few human beings. ~Robert Zend


It would indeed be a tragedy if the history of the human race proved to be nothing more than the story of an ape playing with a box of matches on a petrol dump. ~David Ormsby Gore


Humanity is on the march, earth itself is left behind. ~David Ehrenfeld, The Arrogance of Humanism, 1978


The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness. ~Joseph Conrad, Under Western Eyes, 1911


Why should man expect his prayer for mercy to be heard by What is above him when he shows no mercy to what is under him? ~Pierre Troubetzkoy

Apologies if this has already been covered, but the reason why, as David Rose says "until today, it has not been reported" is because until David Rose made it up, there was nothing to report.

metofficenews.wordpress.com...

Sady, there is no law to prevent journalist making up stories and deliberately misleading the public. Something which happens far more often than many people realise.

Originally posted by Renegade2283
Oh and don't forget that global warming isn't the only repercussion of pollution. The build-up of CO2 in the atmosphere has an effect on everyone's health as well

Quit justifying the slow destruction of the planet!

You have no idea how much higher atmospheric CO2 has been in the past without man's intervention.

For example, in the Triassic period the mean CO2 was about 1750 ppm, or about 6 times the preindustrial level. Going further back, in the Silurian period the mean was 4200 ppm, or 15 time the preindustrial level.

When was the planet destroyed by these high levels of CO2 again?

As I see it humans might be on the verge of being extinguished by Earth anyway. I think the Earth is tiered of us (cannot say I blame it). Mass extinction has always followed climate change be it in growing temps. or decreasing temps.


As for manmade climate change I can neither confirm nor deny it. I do understand though that climate change has happened many times and has killed off a number of species each time.

The good news for Earth is that it comes back from climate change fairly quickly (in relative terms of course). The bad news for humans is that it takes millions of years to come back from climate change. It is likely that people will become extinct in the "near" future.

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Originally posted by ollncasino
There is no report. The data was released by the Met Office without a report.

You're right, I got the "was issued quietly on the internet" mixed with the "has not been reported" and the answer from the Met Office.

Ben Weller is perhaps nothing more that a graphic artist who prepared the graphics of the graph.

I was expecting a Daily Mail copyright, after all that's just like an Excel graph.

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Aye, Rose made it all up. There is no report.

Not the first time he's done this.

btw the graph offers no explanation of what the data points are but was presumably made up by Rose to support the story. It could even be correct, but given the lies in the rest of the story it loses all credibility.

Just goes to show - if it's in the papers, it's probably not true.

I've been following the global warming greenhouse gas issue for a few years mainly in New Scientist magazine which I regard as pretty good. It is real and happening in my opinion. Some of the doomsday predictions are a bit over the top. Skeptics and deniers will huff and puff and they have done an excellent job of trying to destroy this issue and raising doubt about whether or not global warming is even real.
Obviously the coal and oil industry aren't going to be completely thrilled by the idea of trying to reduce human greenhouse gas emissions proposed by the majority of the scientific community to try to reduce the risks of human induced climate change.

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Ever wonder if it was stopped thanks in part to Chemtrails? This was a theory and it actually makes sense to me...

To dismiss global warming is a folly that amounts to a crime against humanity. We are destroying the rainforests in Brazil and Indonesia, we are ploughing up land for housing, the ecosystem is breaking down and the global population is in overdrive and poor old Planet Earth is dying. Of course global warming is going to continue under this regime. There are simply too many people on the planet. But not only that, people forget that global warming has been going on since the birth of Earth! Sure there will be periods where there is a lull, that is to be expected. And there will come a time when we will be plunged back into a new ice age. After which the Earth will be hospitable once more. It is a natural cycle!

There is nothing we can do about it but what we can do is reduce the impact we as a Human Race are having on the planet. That should be made a Human Rights priority. We should also be looking to get off Earth and colonise the Moon, Mars and nearby asteroids. It can be done if we stop fighting each other. The Human Race an intelligent speices? Dont make me laugh! We can't even settle on this issue alone!

Originally posted by onedering
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Global warming is very real. Stop listening to the propaganda of the oil companies and the Us government. One and the same entity..

It was the UK MET office(The most pro AGW organisation on the planet) that released this info , you dork, lol


BTW, i hate to tell you but Big oil has a vested interest in AGW,rationing of oil will push up prices and extend reserves.Together with the big books that can be made from trading carbon credits this is a big winner for the oil companys.

Originally posted by auraelium

Originally posted by onedering
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Global warming is very real. Stop listening to the propaganda of the oil companies and the Us government. One and the same entity..

It was the UK MET office(The most pro AGW organisation on the planet) that released this info , you dork, lol

Why are the people Pro-polluting the planet such nasty bullies who quickly resort to name calling and defamation? Can you answer that one for me? WTF is up with that?

Originally posted by Sinny
This Global Warming lark confuses me..

I'm getting bloody colder, not warmer! Aha.

I'm sure. Have always heard those things were freezing.

You have to have a warm heart to have a warm body.

Originally posted by newcovenant

Originally posted by auraelium

Originally posted by onedering
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Global warming is very real. Stop listening to the propaganda of the oil companies and the Us government. One and the same entity..

It was the UK MET office(The most pro AGW organisation on the planet) that released this info , you dork, lol

Why are the people Pro-polluting the planet such nasty bullies who quickly resort to name calling and defamation? Can you answer that one for me? WTF is up with that?

and Pro AGW people dont do any of those things? oh ok my bad. Its sad that some people (like yourself) think that the whole carbon trading scheme proposed to counter supposed AGW is about cleaning up pollution.

Originally posted by muse7
People like the OP are the reason we'll go the way of the Dinosaurs.

But instead of becoming extinct as a result of a natural cause, we'll go extinct as a result of our own ignorance and arrogance, to stand by our ideologies no matter how harmful they are to the future of the planet.

What a waste of a precious and magnificent planet.

We've been searching for many decades now, and we still have not found one similar, and to think we're polluting it like there's no tomorrow just to make a buck.

That's just disgusting and sad.

Or maybe because of people like 'the Sun'?

I appreciate persons such as the OP. These are folk who don't mind being 'unpopular', or even reviled for their non-compliance. Muse, have you ever considered that it's those with feelings of low self-esteem who are most in love with AGW? It helps them to feel accountable for each planet destroying breath they take. It is God to them.

Originally posted by jimmiec
A carbon tax should be implemented on imported goods to the U.S. from countries like China. Not a carbon tax on U.S. produced products. The products produced in China pollute 50 times more than the same product produced in the U.S.

That is a sensible idea.

Carbon taxing only US companies when Chinese companies pollute so much is a sure fire recipe not to reduce pollution on a global scale but only to put US industry out of business and hand the jobs to China.