LAKOTA SIOUX NATION Secession In Progress and YOU are invited to join them!

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are


It would seem that the ancient Native Americans were very "well aware 1's"....

reply to post by chaoticwolf88
"The native nation is not afraid to go to war with the U.S. government. Don't forget we invaded and took over Alcatraz Island. We are no strangers to fighting the corrupt government. The Lakota Tribe is doing what all tribes and citizens should do. The continuity of gov. ensures the govt not the people will survive a devastating catastrophe. Invest in the Lakotas silver & Gold bank. They are responsible for the Ron Paul gold & silver coins. The U.S. govt has failed the genocide of the native nation time and time again and again. For this land was stolen from us once and we will be damned if we let it happen again."
HaHo,
First of all, someone who is raised by their fathers, knows that such talk is dis-respectful to Wonk-Wah-Shu-Shay's (Warrior's) They are takers of life, not for recognition but to ensure safety of their relatives. Life is precious and part of Mauna(Earthmaker) or God (Everything). Ownership of land is something many Native Americans still do not believe in, and reason why is that many Native Americans believe that it is a blessing to be able to be here upon Creation in the first place, then say, they own this land or this world.
Money, Possessions, and any selfish term as such has nothing to do with Human life, Reason why you rarely see Native American Warrior's take up the war pipe and gather together their helpers they were blessed with when they fasted as young boy's.
Sure, there are some Natives who have fought in wars for this United States of America, even some of my own close relatives like my nephew Mitchell Redcloud Jr., a Corporal in Company E. 19th Infantry Regiment in Korea.
When longknives(what we called the United States Military due to the fact of when we met them in combat, they waited for our warrior's to leave their villages and when they come home, they saw their women and children skewered by their swords with their body parts removed and later found out they were parading in their towns)
But to say such things as you did does nothing but create a cycle of negativity, sure the Native American warriors would fight to their deaths, even knowing that they possibly lose their lives, but its because of their loved ones who would be threatened not to fight over land or life and liberty.
Many longknife writers portray Native American Warriors as bloody savages , but in truth those who have met us in battle never forget, some its the last thing they ever see upon Creation.

The Lakota Sioux had the freest life you could have ever have had in the history of humanity.
They didn't want to be anything they just wanted to be.
They had ancestors in my native city of Manchester England that were left behind after Wild Bills Buffalo Circus passed through and were known as The Salford Sioux.Some married and had children there and so us Mancs have native Americans in our population.
If there was any justice in the world the original people of the American continent would get back some of which was taken away.I heard recently that there was a movement to buy back the spiritual Black Hills and from the profit of the casinos they had horded a massive amount of money to do so.I pray this comes to pass.
I also recently discovered that in the national parks around America there are many people going missing in bizarre circumstances over many decades which the parks service does not wish to talk about and in the places they are going missing they usually have names such as "Devils Mountain"or "valley of the dead" which have come from native Americans so called mythology.But what is amazing is that almost no people have gone missing that fit the criteria of bizarre have disappeared in the surrounding vicinity of The Black Hills.

www.nabigfootsearch.com...


The United States Government have lied,cheated and lied to steal the land of people that merely wanted a way to live.We hear all types of ethnic groups complaining about their unfair status but the ones that complain the least are the ones that have had the most damage done to them.
The Lakota Sioux have produced some of the most dignified humans ever to walk-Sitting Bull,Crazy Horse,Touch The Clouds,Gaul,Red Cloud and American Horse......Go study.

Anyone who joins this movement....get ready to be singled out as a Homeland T3rr0r15T, cause that's what they are going to call you.

reply to post by southbeach


That would be an excellent use for the funds created. I love that fact that these funds can be used for such honorable things as getting land back that was yours to begin with... If you think about it, it is a win win situation. The land is protected by the respectable works of the people who appreciate and cherish it AND can ensure that the abuses that go on in the federal parks are not part done under their watch as caretakers.

The Native People always seem to show by there examples that they are "caretakers" as opposed to "owners". THe Hopi Prophecy always intrigues me because it resonates with the over all attitudes of many Tribal Nations. That there is one who is coming...

I think that if you are some white christiYAn guy like me or Native Amareican Spirtualist for lack of a more fitting word, we can agree that CHANGE YOU CAN "REALLY" BELIEVE IN IS COMING!!!!

Originally posted by dayve

The Maidu , Cherokee , Yocha nation,Pomo, and theirs quite a few others if you'd like me to name em all... I'd rather not tho.... They get benefits from the Casinos and other crap..

Not to continue to derail this thread, but "...benefits from the Casinos and other crap." Really? SMH

The Cherokee? Well, I know a few members of the Qualla Boundary Cherokee and, ermm, no; no, they do not get that much money a month. I know several members of the Oklahoma Cherokee Nation (almost 300,000 on their rolls, btw) and, ermm, no, they do not get that much money, either. In fact, for the Oklahoma Cherokee Nation, at only $2,000 per month, the Nation would be paying out $600,000,000 a month using your lowest figure. Considering the clothing drives, school supply drives and Christmas drives .... kinda hard for anyone to make a case that those folks are getting that much money.

The others you mention are California Nations; therefore, they stand a much better chance of being in a 'location, location, location' place, so perhaps they are wealthier than the norm. If some of those Tribes/Nations DO, indeed, have that much income for their citizens, then that is wonderful.

Overall, though, citizens of most Reservations do NOT receive monies anywhere close to the numbers you mention if, in fact, they receive any at all. I truly was not joking or exaggerating when I said that living conditions on most Reservations are as bad as 3rd world countries. People freeze to death EVERY year on our northern Reservations. That this is allowed inside this Country is deplorable. That the reality of our Reservations are kept hidden from the general public is beyond deplorable. It should never be presumed that because a small (very small) handful of Reservations are successful or even affluent, that all of the others are.

Please educate yourself on the realities of our Reservations. Billions and billions in foreign aid go out to Countries who'd just as soon see us wiped off the map. WHY isn't this money being used for those within our own Country? Why? Because we are forgotten.

How bad is it? Click on each one to learn.

Life on the Pine Ridge Rez

Whether the 'news' of the secession was new or not, learning what is really going on would help people understand why secession could seem like a good idea to the forgotten, poverty-ridden citizenry of the semi-sovereign Nations within our Nation.

reply to post by Phenomium


Well I knew there was a reason why Obama has had over NINE HUNDRED EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN 3 1/2 YEARS and there have only been A FEW HANDFULS OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS OVER THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL CENTURIES........

Put into place all the restraints is the NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM of the day....

There was someone called Pharaoh who felt he could do whatever he wanted once also.... This country began Freedom to a point in the year 1776... This was not because the negative energy that rules much of this system allowed it to happen but rather because there was no choice in the matter... The lessonings of persecutions had to begin to occur.

For every one this Government tries to muzzle a hundred more will rise up...

DOAH!

Originally posted by YAHUWAH SAVES
reply to post by southbeach

 

That would be an excellent use for the funds created. I love that fact that these funds can be used for such honorable things as getting land back that was yours to begin with... If you think about it, it is a win win situation. The land is protected by the respectable works of the people who appreciate and cherish it AND can ensure that the abuses that go on in the federal parks are not part done under their watch as caretakers.

The Native People always seem to show by there examples that they are "caretakers" as opposed to "owners". THe Hopi Prophecy always intrigues me because it resonates with the over all attitudes of many Tribal Nations. That there is one who is coming...

I think that if you are some white christiYAn guy like me or Native Amareican Spirtualist for lack of a more fitting word, we can agree that CHANGE YOU CAN "REALLY" BELIEVE IN IS COMING!!!!

edit on 9/30/2012 by YAHUWAH SAVES because: (no reason given)

I'll have to agree with you. many other Tribes have been raking in the dough and getting paid mad ends and have been paid off thousands over, however some Tribes like the Cherokee...got screwed.

reply to post by chachonee


In England we have a different respect for you.
I was taught as a young kid that Hollywood was b##l$h!t and that for every 3 white Americans that died only 1 "Indian''(sorry,not meant in disrespect) died in battle.True or not i don't know but you can see the difference in attitude.
Hollywood did more damage to historical facts than the missionaries themselves.We as Brits see what garbage they spin from WW2 and we are supposed to be Americas greatest ally so what they did to the originals peoples version of history is beyond a joke....for instance Custer being a great hero when in all reality he took on real men that had him screaming for his mother within seconds of realizing tribal camps didn't just consist of women and kids.

reply to post by southbeach


how much is genocide worth these days anyways? I should just shut up since im just here testing out my new sig

reply to post by southbeach


If more people would look up the root and beginnings and meanings of words they would have clearer understandings of that which they represent:

HOLLY WOOD: The holly tree is considered a "magical" tree. It's Wood was considered and used for many purposes and holly leaves and such have been used through the centuries in festivals, religious practices and even medicinally. A Holly Wood is considered a spell casting device, enter harry potter , Yes HollyWood is an excellent name for a group of people that essentially capture the hearts and minds of the masses through propaganda and then proceed to twist the truths into lies that seem like truth. There have been many lies and rewrites of history to the point that most of us can only be certain of one thing... that using our own gut our own conscience in learning to decide what we think is right and wrong and NOT simply relying on the Government to determine what right and wrong is for us.

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You should do well to look up Jordan Maxwell,he gives long lists of what the true meanings of societal groups are.
And here's one
www.youtube.com...
Anyhow the winning side always dictates the history that preceded it but Hollywood is a massive nationalistic propaganda machine and if you are not from these shores you can see it as the history being taught in many other nations is based as much on fact that is humanely possible rather than the Gung Ho Yee Haw passed as fact.

reply to post by DontTreadOnMe


I agree with the SupMod. A more on topic question with regards to Secession of the Lakota Sioux Nation or any other state or people for that matter is Can the US Armed Services be called in to stop a Secession? With all the Executive Orders that have been issued I wonder if anything has been more recently put in place to stop such a Secession? I must admit my ignorance on the legal aspect of Secession in this day and age.

reply to post by YAHUWAH SAVES


I'm a big Russell Means fan and quite frankly I think the Indian reservations should be fully independant of the Unites States of America since white man can't keep their side of their treaties with the Native Americans.

reply to post by bluemirage5



As much as It hurts to admit it you are correct.... Because of the actions of those who have been in charge for reasons we will not go into here however and I'd like to think that there are many I have had the pleasure to personally know who have character, honesty and love of fellow man as their driving belief and force.

reply to post by SeesFar


Yapp, benefits from Casinos and other crap, crap meaning stores, merchandise and hotels and whatever else they have. Not saying theirs anything wrong with it, but to say indians dont get benefits and is a lil absurd.... Maybe its just in northern CA idk... I know a guy from Oklahoma that got a piece of land their, and gave it to his kids... But he gets no benefits here.

reply to post by chachonee


I still love my country but I absolutely hate this gov. with the kind of passion I can only imagine the Sioux nation
must have for the gluttons in Washington D.C. I'd join them in a heart beat if they would have me. Honor their customs learn their language fight and die with them if it came to that.

It would be the biggest honor I could ever imagine.

reply to post by randyvs


I feel ya Randy. The mishandling of government is so incredible right now that it boggles the mind. We see locally the politics right here in the High Desert and then magnify that by about a trillion nationwide and realize how messed up the system is. Does make me wonder what will happen to our children and there children's children.

Can mankind really rule themselves? I appreciate fully the heart of the LSN but time and time again I see that man cannot seem to rule themselves very well under just about any form of nation... makes ya think ya know.

Originally posted by YAHUWAH SAVES
reply to post by randyvs

 

I feel ya Randy. The mishandling of government is so incredible right now that it boggles the mind. We see locally the politics right here in the High Desert and then magnify that by about a trillion nationwide and realize how messed up the system is. Does make me wonder what will happen to our children and there children's children.

Can mankind really rule themselves? I appreciate fully the heart of the LSN but time and time again I see that man cannot seem to rule themselves very well under just about any form of nation... makes ya think ya know.

Yes it does. And the conclusion I keep finding is the same. That any change would be a good change. Excellent thread thanks for posting.