Who Controls Our Children? /The secret War Against America

reply to post by OldSchoolMom


Education begins at home. If kids don't get it there they'll get it from other sources, making it easier for the children to be molded by whatever source they're getting their education from.

Personally, I don't participate in the war you're talking about, therefor, neither does my child. If a parent isn't in a position to home-school their child or children.....understandable. But if you can't provide your child with a real-life and practical education at home that will overshadow anything else any educational institution will give them, institutions that people complain about as failing, you're failing as a parent.

Sound hard? Look at it realistically. We all know that the level of education in schools overall is declining. The reasons why are off topic here. But if that's the way you feel and you don't step up as a parent and help supplement that lack of education in the comforts of your own home, quit complaining about the whole thing because at the end of the day, it all comes down to you. The parent.

So to answer you question of "Who Controls Our Children" The answer is we do. The parents.

Originally posted by Taupin Desciple

So to answer you question of "Who Controls Our Children" The answer is we do. The parents.

Awesome!

reply to post by Annee


I think that link is fascinating :-)

I spent a little time in there wandering around...

I also think the OP does not really have the courage of her convictions

Why can't she just come out and say what she wants to say?

The testimony of ex-Soviet spies seems a little superfluous

:-)

but maybe that's just me

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis

I also think the OP does not really have the courage of her convictions

Why can't she just come out and say what she wants to say?

Right! I didn't get it. It seemed to be staged in a clandestine story (true or not)

Reminds me of novice monk scribes - - translating ancient script. They're gonna see God in everything - - whether there is any direct reference or not.

And then someone so deeply swallowed up in their own rabbit whole of conspiracy - - - chastising others to think for themselves?

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
reply to post by Annee

 

I think that link is fascinating :-)

I spent a little time in there wandering around...

Have we seen any actual produced documents?

Or - - as it states on the blog - - - she is reporting what she saw.

So far its hearsay - - in what I've seen/read.

reply to post by Annee

And then someone so deeply swallowed up in their own rabbit whole of conspiracy - - -

well - guerrilla warfare is just not as much fun without it

...chastising others to think for themselves?

:shk:

then not answering questions when they do...

wherefore art thou - OP?

:-)

reply to post by Annee

Do not attempt to waste my time.

What are doing here then Anne? You have come over to this thread, contributed nothing towards the topic except to criticize the way I handle a poster. Would you like me to go over to your thread and sidetrack your discussion? Would you think that respectful?

reply to post by Annee

But - - what is "truth"? Is your "truth" the same as my "truth"?

No, I see you as a bit of a ditz to be honest, a bit unstable as well. but then again... if there is no truth in your world it does matter right?

reply to post by MountainLaurel

I know I'm considered crazy because I speak the truth to many folks, and honestly it's hurtful, because on some level I would be just fine with "checking out"...move to Hawaii and make lei's all day.....but I brought a child into this world, and I love too many people to just give up.....

Hello MountainLaurel,

Thank you for sharing your story pages back. I just couldn't catch up to comment, thank you. I remember the educational toys but, I couldn't remember the name, all I remember was it was a 5x8 mail-order catalog. I was a customer. We have much in common, both my boys could read a little and add/subtract by age 5 and 6. I wish there was a thread that let us talk about our kids and the methods we used to teach them. Mine sons are 28 and 30 now, and I am proud. We will be known by our fruits right.

We are the crazy ones yep yep. I am hated and loved because of my blunt honesty. I only wish I had more tact but, at my age..if it was going to develop it would have happened by now. *shrugs
I too am good with "checking out" I am tired. I don't mean it but I am tired ... Everything is upside down imo. Ever see the movie "idiocracy"? After my son shared that movie with me, I see it everywhere.....

Nice to meet you, and thank you for your awesome contribution to this thread.

Originally posted by OldSchoolMom
reply to post by Annee

 

But - - what is "truth"? Is your "truth" the same as my "truth"?

No, I see you as a bit of a ditz to be honest, a bit unstable as well. but then again... if there is no truth in your world it does matter right?

I'm not the one peddling a conspiracy theory - - then telling others not to drink the Kool-aid.

Originally posted by OldSchoolMom
reply to post by Annee

 

Do not attempt to waste my time.

What are doing here then Anne? You have come over to this thread, contributed nothing towards the topic except to criticize the way I handle a poster. Would you like me to go over to your thread and sidetrack your discussion? Would you think that respectful?

Was that in response to something you posted?

You left off the poster and what I was responding to.

Convenient.

Originally posted by OldSchoolMom

What are doing here then Anne?

The misleading title: Who Controls Our Children? /The secret War Against America,

If your title had New World Order in it - - - I wouldn't be here.

reply to post by penninja

None the less socialism and communism are not the same thing and I am actually a fan of socialism but not communism.

Definition of SOCIALISM

#1 any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

#2 a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

#3 a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.


You're right they are not the "same".

I think everyone here should watch the documentary "war on kids".
It's on netflix and I'm sure you could find it on the internet.
A real eye opener for the people who did not see it coming.

reply to post by Taupin Desciple

The reasons why are off topic here. But if that's the way you feel and you don't step up as a parent and help supplement that lack of education in the comforts of your own home, quit complaining about the whole thing because at the end of the day, it all comes down to you. The parent. So to answer you question of "Who Controls Our Children" The answer is we do. The parents.

Yes, I see that you missed the point of the information included in the op. The point was to alert parents that they are being lied to. When they see a grade on the report card it is not a reflection of how well they are learning to read, write or even figure things out. It reflects how well they have accepted the values, attitudes and beliefs they are taught. The parents are not told this. The parents are purposely mislead.

I agree it is ultimately the parents responsibility for the upbringing of their child, no doubt. But, parent do not expect that their own local institution might be misleading them. Also, parents do not expect the school system to undermine their authority and family values. Yet, that is exactly the intent.

So, this is not a thread to take away any responsibility from the parent but to alert them to pay better attention and not just assume but, make sure they know what is going on in the classroom that occupies most of their child's day, to beware of deception.

I see no other recourse but to pull the children out of the schools. Parents must decide if their children are getting what they need to prepare them for the real world. I would suspect most parents aim towards generally the same goals I had...to teach them sound ethics like integrity in all they do, sound work ethics, the basic tools of reading, writing, math, history, science and a clear understanding of our system of government and why our country was the beacon of hope for the rest of the world.

Will they be self sufficient and an asset to society as a whole? It is the parents job to see that their children are ready when they are adults but, they need to know times have changed and they must be more careful as to who they trust to assist in these things.

Thanks so much for your contribution, and emphasizing a very important point.

reply to post by OldSchoolMom

When they see a grade on the report card it is not a reflection of how well they are learning to read, write or even figure things out. It reflects how well they have accepted the values, attitudes and beliefs they are taught. The parents are not told this. The parents are purposely mislead.

You're wrong. The grades or levels that feature on a report reflect the ability or aptitude of the pupil. This means that a kid who agrees with his or her math teacher doesn't get default A-grades or that a kid who debates the teacher won't get F-grades. It's the same for English, science and other core subjects.

You're presenting a case that pupils are assessed on the basis of how well they get on with the teacher.

So, this is not a thread to take away any responsibility from the parent but to alert them to pay better attention and not just assume but, make sure they know what is going on in the classroom that occupies most of their child's day, to beware of deception.

Fire up Google or whatever search-engine and review 'schemes of work' or 'lesson plans.' Check out YT for videos on Shakespeare, science and maths made by students in classes.

I see no other recourse but to pull the children out of the schools.

Based on what? You haven't made a coherent argument or begun to show any experience or insight in the education system.

reply to post by OldSchoolMom


Thank-you...I have really appreciated your insightful thread... and the opportunity to share what went down with my child.....God knows I wasn't mother of the year.....and my career was in conflict with her best interests...Too many times...but I really tried hard to juggle it all...I deeply Love my daughter....

If I am ever lucky enough to be a Grandma....I am going to rock that job......and I wish everything good to young parents....be very aware of what goes down in school.....♥

reply to post by Annee

I'm currently raising my 12 year old granddaughter and 4 year old grandson. I support "raising a child from the inside out".

Do you mind sharing with us the circumstances in which you became the parent for your grandchildren?

reply to post by Spiramirabilis

I also think the OP does not really have the courage of her convictions Why can't she just come out and say what she wants to say?

I live them, so when you say that I am a little confused. Might you explain what you are implying?

Originally posted by OldSchoolMom
reply to post by Annee

 

I'm currently raising my 12 year old granddaughter and 4 year old grandson. I support "raising a child from the inside out".

Do you mind sharing with us the circumstances in which you became the parent for your grandchildren?

The 4 year old grandson's daddy died of illness less then a month after his birth.