*VID* Proof Romney and RNC is a sham causing potential Republican civil war.

Originally posted by Ancient Champion
Ron Paul needs to stop playing the victim, He lost get over it.

If you don't understand that we are ALL the victims now then I'm sorry for you. What the GOP did has nothing to do with Ron Paul.

Originally posted by Simon_Boudreaux
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

Yes, I have. I'm a Paul supporter. And I believe that the non-aggressive stance is why Paul and his supporters have gotten shafted at every turn. You really think the objections, or walk outs are going to do squat? You think boo- hooing to the media is going to get you anywhere? You think trying to have any legal recourse is going to do anything when they break their own laws and rules? The GOP made it obvious they will do whatever the hell they wish regardless of who you, I, or anyone else wants. If they run a risk of not getting the nominee they have "chosen" they'll change the rules to get it and to hell with the American people! To me it amounts to a spoiled brat taking his ball and going home when he starts to lose the game.


There comes a time when peaceful objection is no longer a viable option. And I believe we are fast approaching that time.

Ok, then you must understand that none of us would be here, supporting Ron Paul, if the world did not see Ron Paul lead by example. The only reason he is such a popular figure in politics and has a hardcore following is because of his consistency in everything he says.

What is breaking some republican drone's jaw gonna do? what is really going to accomplish to further the cause of liberty?

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
My question to the Ron Paul delegates at the convention. You were all clearly disrespected and ignored...why didn't you stage more of a protest than you did???

Why just take it lying down and let them get away with it???

No one will really know about what they did to Ron Paul delegates...because the Ron Paul delegates didn't do anything to bring it to the national media's attention. You can't just expect them to cover it because it happened...you have to make them cover it whether they want to or not.

What could you have done you ask??? You could have vocally shown your disapproval during Romney's speech...you could have marched on the stage and refused to leave...you could have done a lot of things...but all I saw is that you guys were quiet when they told you to be quiet, you put your signs away when they told you to put the signs away, and you sat in the back where they told you to sit.

Cameras were everywhere...and you passed up the opportunity to be heard.

Instigating as usual. You really are quite good at it though; playing the passive aggressive.

Originally posted by Labrynth2012
reply to post by eLPresidente

 

You're either a BIRTHER, 911 TRUTHER or RON PAUL fanatic or a LUNATIC on the LEFT FRINGE.
I don't subscribe to this site for revolting information. You either LOVE OBAMA or DON'T.

If YOU don't, I suggest you get on board with the RNC candidate to defeat OBAMA at the polls.
Because Voting for Ron Paul is only going to hurt the RNC's chances of defeating OBAMA. PERIOD !

Who gives a damn? I don't. You see, it isn't simply a Romney vs. Obama thing. This is a vote for who we, as individual rights loving free people, want to see as president. Many of us do not like Obama or Romney. So, why should we vote for Romney? # in one hand and crap in the other.

Originally posted by eLPresidente


Ok, then you must understand that none of us would be here, supporting Ron Paul, if the world did not see Ron Paul lead by example. The only reason he is such a popular figure in politics and has a hardcore following is because of his consistency in everything he says.

What example is that? To sit there and let the GOP do the things it has done to him not just this year but every other time the man has ran for president? If Paul wants to lead by example then he should lead all of us to Washington D.C. and demand something be done to the GOP and the rest of the federal government for their antics. He should be calling for every American be it Republican, Democrat, white, black, brown, yellow, green, and purple to march on our nation's capitol and scream NO MORE! I love Ron Paul but the man is too passive for the lions den that is politics.

What is breaking some republican drone's jaw gonna do? what is really going to accomplish to further the cause of liberty?

The cause of liberty? How about the guy with the Paul sign having the liberty to display his sign of who he supports without some ass trying to block it with his sign or the woman(not what I really wanted to call her) to snatch his sign away? Breaking their jaws would certainly make them think twice about doing it again. To me that is is furthering the cause of liberty for the sign holder.

reply to post by FlySolo

My god I feel like I'm in the twilight zone and everyone is a cookie cut carbon copy of Borg with their brains sucked out.

There is some truth to that. You'll have to forgive them though. They do see it. That is a smoking gun. Why the OP brought it. Why they made the video in the first place.

And if you abide in Amerika and you have something to lose (family, career, property) then you best keep it to yourself. I must be stupid. Thanks for the nod though.

Originally posted by Simon_Boudreaux

Originally posted by eLPresidente


Ok, then you must understand that none of us would be here, supporting Ron Paul, if the world did not see Ron Paul lead by example. The only reason he is such a popular figure in politics and has a hardcore following is because of his consistency in everything he says.

What example is that? To sit there and let the GOP do the things it has done to him not just this year but every other time the man has ran for president? If Paul wants to lead by example then he should lead all of us to Washington D.C. and demand something be done to the GOP and the rest of the federal government for their antics. He should be calling for every American be it Republican, Democrat, white, black, brown, yellow, green, and purple to march on our nation's capitol and scream NO MORE! I love Ron Paul but the man is too passive for the lions den that is politics.

What is breaking some republican drone's jaw gonna do? what is really going to accomplish to further the cause of liberty?

The cause of liberty? How about the guy with the Paul sign having the liberty to display his sign of who he supports without some ass trying to block it with his sign or the woman(not what I really wanted to call her) to snatch his sign away? Breaking their jaws would certainly make them think twice about doing it again. To me that is is furthering the cause of liberty for the sign holder.

edit on 31-8-2012 by Simon_Boudreaux because: (no reason given)

I don't like it either, violence is not the answer. Trust me when I say the delegates were pissed as hell and many of them were angry but kept their cool, yes even veterans who were delegates for Ron Paul. They were there to represent the entire grassroots movement. Do you realize how much bad press would've come out if a Ron Paul supporter HIT some older establishment drone? You have to know how to play your cards and right now the deck is stacked against the establishment. We have SYMPATHY. I was there, I would know.

You can break as many jaws as you want, it is your right to be aggressive all you like but it is not something that Ron Paul endorses and it is not something most of the Ron Paul Revolution endorses. We don't call this an intellectual revolution for nothing.

After reading a few of the threads here on the crazyness at the RNC I watched Dr. Paul's speech in Tampa on their website and have now converted from an un-proud Democrat to the Liberty Movement.

I know for a fact that I am not the only one. The actions that your "party leaders" displayed has shown them in a light that we usually don't see on the day-to-day media and we are APPALLED! They have gone against the very principals and rights this country was founded on and thanks to those Dr. Paul delegates who had to endure AN ENTIRE CAMPAIGN full of this nonsense your everyday American voter will now hear about it and (if they choose to listen) finally stand up for themselves!

I am confident that many many more people will be thanking Dr. Paul and his staff for opening our eyes for many years to come. Keep up the good work!

Cheers,

Originally posted by eLPresidente



Do you realize how much bad press would've come out if a Ron Paul supporter HIT some older establishment drone? You have to know how to play your cards and right now the deck is stacked against the establishment. We have SYMPATHY. I was there, I would know.

Um. Hate to break it to you but ya'll don't have the deck stacked against anyone. The establishment MADE the deck! They can take out cards they don't like and put in ones they do. They can reshuffle it how many times they wish. They did it right in front of all of you and they didn't even bother using slight of hand while doing so. And all the Paul people did was a little booing and hollering to deaf ears.

It wasn't an older establishment drone. It was a young guy and I think most people would understand if him and the woman got jaw jacked for what they were doing. Hell the woman just smirked when she snatched the sign and the kid told her it was his or Paul's property.

Sympathy? Yeah, that's what is needed. What political party or movement got anywhere because people felt sorry for them?

We don't call this an intellectual revolution for nothing.

Hope that works out for you, sincerely I do.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


I have been a huge RP fan for a long time, but recently I have just come to the conclusion that RP is a distraction to keep true patriots busy hoping. Keep us busy with the next big development and now we are a few months away from the election. We have been treated like dirt by the left and the right. We are the true spirit of truth and justice in America and the last thing the handlers of Obama and Romney want is for us to simply stop playing their games.

Stop supporting either party. Stop shopping in their stores. Truly folks, buy locally as much as possible. Yes, it costs a little bit more, but just stop supporting them. Pull out your money from their stocks. Invest in gold and silver, invest locally to build your community. I find that Illuminati card with what looks like Alex Jones and Ron Paul on it quite, well, illuminating. We are being pacified by RP speeches and yet when he is dumped on, disrespected, illegally kept from having his voice heard or votes for him even counted, does he do anything substantive about it? No he doesn't.

This is all smoke and mirrors. At some point, we must stop complying, and start working locally, start being the change we want. We are NOT going to get it playing in their system. They are crooks, liars, thieves who just change the rules. I mean, how much more do you need to see? How many times do you have to get kicked in the groin? At some point, we must say no more, and just stop being their for them.

Obama couldn't have dreamed up a better thread than this.
Enjoy your 4 more years od Obama

reply to post by Ancient Champion

Ron Paul needs to stop playing the victim, He lost get over it.

You, sir. have not been paying attention.

Let me pose a scenario: If the any sports league finds out that the referees are trying to fix games should the teams that lost unfair games just "get over with it?" What about a dirty card dealer at a casino? I think there would be very serious outrage.

No one is playing victim, they followed every rule to the letter of the law. They waited until THAT moment in the conference to voice their objections just as they should have. But the law was clearly not followed, and there is very genuine outrage because more people are starting to see the co-opting of a our political system.

Learn to make a point in your posts, something that will add to the conversation not simply an authoritative opinion.

I think that if the Ron Paul delegates and supporters had created a scene at the Convention, the media would have turned off the cameras and smacked them down. I also think the delegates should have done it anyway so people could have caught it all on their camera phones and go global with it. Of course, these days you can't let cops catch you filming them. They will bust you for sure.

All this talk about having a revolution dose not make sense. First, look at how many Obama and Romney supporters you have, they're more in number then Paul's. Second, if we do have a revolution, what's going to stop from the same thing happening over and over again? (Central Bank running the economy and using the Constitution as toilet paper.)


Nothing will. Because greed in this consumerism cycle taints men's minds. The colonists rebelled in 1776 because of a CENTRAL BANK. There's a reason why they don't teach you that in class, because we have one today!

The weak minded man will sell out his fellow brother for a new car or a cute gismo.

Oh and btw, if we were to have a revolution, how many joe six packs would get up from the couch and stop watching Kim Kardashians ass and eating snickers to give a #? Only when an FBI agent kicks his door down and kills his dog.

The elite want this! This is all planned! How else are they going to set up a New World Order? They have to break the country first, and then impose martial law because of the "revolution".

You think those FEMA camps are bull#? Do you think NDAA was put there for fun and signed on New Years Eve? If you still don't believe anything about the FEMA camps, look what happened to thousands of Japanese-American citizens in the 40's who got sent to concentration camps just because they were, you guessed it, Japanese!

Oh and by the way, 2013 will be the 100th Anniversary for the Federal Reserve. I wonder what these Satanical Baby eaters have in store for us? We all know they love dates.

/endrant

Originally posted by FlySolo

Originally posted by CJStallion
GET OVER IT. YOU LOST. ITS SOUR GRAPES.

Cheating does not make winners. Get used to it

I can give a damn about the inner workings of the GOP but c'mon now you Paulites are coming off as really sore losers.

CHEATING? Give me a freaking break RON PAUL DIDN'T EVEN WIN A STATE. I mean good lord even Newt was able to win one state.

reply to post by strykr619

CHEATING? Give me a freaking break RON PAUL DIDN'T EVEN WIN A STATE. I mean good lord even Newt was able to win one state.

He won four, for God's sake please do some kind of research before posting.

I smell your ignorance from here

This is just despicable. More proof that the whole Republican/Democrat is nothing more than a ruse to make us think we have a choice. The truth is, they don't want us to have a choice; we get what they put in front of us.

To dismiss Ron Paul and his supporters this way is proof that the U.S. government is not much better than some third-world government.

Has anybody noticed that Mitt Romney, and other Republican candidates for that matter, only talk about "surface" issues and never address the serious issue facing this country? Yea, healthcare is important, and for some people, abortion is an important issue but to me, those are only "surface" issues used to distract us from the real issue; loss of freedom and the transformation into a totalitarian state.

Not one candidate has addressed the issue of NDAA, the Patriot Act, the overreaching powers of DHS, TSA, etc. The Executive Order giving the President the authority to order the assassination of another person (regardless of that person's citizenship) in direct opposition to War Powers Resolution. Nobody questions these things. Honestly, the expanding power of the government; ability to spy, detain us without warrant or arrest or Miranda rights, TSA checkpoints; these are the things that concern me far more than abortion or taxes. Yes, those things are important as well, but if our basic rights are taken away then the rest is moot.

Has Romney mentioned those things? Has he promised to repeal some of those those "laws"? Nope. And the media in the U.S. is complicit is concealing the real problems. Everybody who seems to have a handle on what the real problems are have been virtually silenced. Glenn Beck, like him or not, speaks the truth. He is aware of what is happening with the disintegration our the U.S. and it's basic foundation. Judge Andrew Napolitano is as well, and his show was cancelled even though he had some of the highest ratings on Fox Business.

This "vote" by the RNC was nothing more than another move to silence any opposition to the abuse of the Constitution and to make sure that everybody on the "Right" falls in line with the status quo. Make no mistake; they will NOT let the paradigm be challenged. While we are arguing about abortion, jobs, the economy, taxes, the "war on women", same-sex marriage, etc, they are quietly destroying us from the inside, away from the public's eyes, and sadly, nobody sees it. There is nobody to challenge Mitt Romney and ask him about this destruction from within; they won't let anybody ask those questions and if you get too close to asking those questions, they silence you...just like what they did to Ron Paul.

Sadly, it will be difficult to take this country back by peaceful means. They simply will not let it happen. They have gamed the system to keep it "sealed" from outside influence. They have succeeded in corrupting our youth, destroying free enterprise, promoting immorality, marginalizing the Constitution and distracting us with other "breaking news". They control the MSM and demonize anybody who challenges the talking points of the day.

God help us.

Originally posted by Skerrako
reply to post by strykr619

 

CHEATING? Give me a freaking break RON PAUL DIDN'T EVEN WIN A STATE. I mean good lord even Newt was able to win one state.

He won four, for God's sake please do some kind of research before posting.

I smell your ignorance from here

newb trolls always pull these kind of stunts.

reply to post by eLPresidente


I wanted to give my answer to the "does Romney even want to win" question. I think No. Romney has pushed and been pushed as the GOP main man due to the likely hood he will not win but without it being obvious that that is the idea. The PTB want Obama in again. with Romney as the GOP candidate considering his tax evasion and the things Paul Ryan has been saying about rape it's pretty well guaranteed Romney will not win because many republicans have enough self respect not to vote for him, this in turn pretty well guarantees that Obama gets his second term and can continue the socialist regime change he began.

reply to post by Laced713


I'm thinking the same thing.

The real threat to Obama, or the powers that be, has always been Ron Paul.

The Federal Reserve Bank is robbing us all and is the American people's #1 threat.