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Originally posted by jeantherapy
reply to post by Dnepropetrovsk
The op clearly mistyped, I thought it had been all cleared up that really the title should say Declaration of Independence?
Originally posted by vexati0n
You backwards backwoods intolerant American Taliban need to start convincing people with actual reason, or shut up and go back to your shacks. Threatening the public peace with your fantasies about revolution isn't going to get us anywhere.
Originally posted by Dnepropetrovsk
Originally posted by jeantherapy
reply to post by Dnepropetrovsk
The op clearly mistyped, I thought it had been all cleared up that really the title should say Declaration of Independence?
Then it is equally flawed. The declaration of independence was just that a declaration of our independence our rights come from the constitution.
Originally posted by Dnepropetrovsk
Then it is equally flawed. The declaration of independence was just that a declaration of our independence our rights come from the constitution.
Originally posted by jeantherapy
reply to post by sensible1
Why do you keep accusing me of being racist? I will state for you what I have stated many other times in other discussions. All humans are the same race. All humans have the same capacity for good and evil. My message is one of unification and not of division, we must abandon all divisive terms like African American - if you are a citizen you are American plain and simple. You can take pride in your country without taking pride in your government. Greedy people that don't care what effects their actions have run the governments of the world over, we know this. I live in the US that is why I focus on our particular corrupt government.
Originally posted by jeantherapy
Originally posted by vexati0n
You backwards backwoods intolerant American Taliban need to start convincing people with actual reason, or shut up and go back to your shacks. Threatening the public peace with your fantasies about revolution isn't going to get us anywhere.
Why do you think you can convince people with insults? Your posts have been full of them and that contradicts your claim that reason must be employed to make an argument.
Originally posted by vexati0n
Originally posted by Dnepropetrovsk
Originally posted by jeantherapy
reply to post by Dnepropetrovsk
The op clearly mistyped, I thought it had been all cleared up that really the title should say Declaration of Independence?
Then it is equally flawed. The declaration of independence was just that a declaration of our independence our rights come from the constitution.
Technically no, our rights derive from our "Creator" (which could mean whatever you want it to mean, since it's a free country). The Constitution does not "grant" rights,
Originally posted by FeatherofMaat
Because America is populated by mostly stupid people. They believe the "news" pundits and what the media tells us. As a result, we are two Nations masquerading as one. We shouldn't be, but we are. The PTB have been 100% successful in dividing us. As long as we think, "if we just get rid of the TeaBags" or :if we just get rid of the LibTards" America will die. It's almost dead now. So, put aside any government overthrow with your little popguns against a modern military until we stop it. However, I never see it happening. We need to man up, divide into two Nations, and call it a day.
Originally posted by vexati0n
Originally posted by jeantherapy
Originally posted by vexati0n
You backwards backwoods intolerant American Taliban need to start convincing people with actual reason, or shut up and go back to your shacks. Threatening the public peace with your fantasies about revolution isn't going to get us anywhere.
Why do you think you can convince people with insults? Your posts have been full of them and that contradicts your claim that reason must be employed to make an argument.
It isn't my intention or desire to convince anyone of anything. I'm stating my opinions, which are basically that A) Actual "Revolution" is as unlikely as it would be useless and futile; and B) Teatards are uneducated goons who lack a basic Human ability to reason, as demonstrated by their 3 year history of failing to understand basic civics, history, and economics.
There is no amendment in the US Constitution to allow the citizens to overthrow the government. In the Declaration of Independence, a provision does exist to throw off such government and provide new guards to their future security. Thomas Jefferson got that idea from his studies of the Jewish thinker Maimonides (RAMBAM) .
Originally posted by glitchinthematrix
I've been mulling this over for a few days now. I know it's completely crazy, but it must not be too nutzoid of a thought if there is a provision for it in the Constitution. ATS, why do y'all think this is or is not possible? Obviously it would take some intense organization that is really beyond my comprehension, but I'm just curious why this doesn't seem to be a viable option for "We the People" whose rights are being taken one by one, who no longer really own much of anything, who work to carry the super rich and put money in their pockets day and night.
Is there anyone or group with a strong enough character to not become corrupt themselves? How long would it take to establish a new government? Would we be able to take back jobs? Would we become employees of the new government? Would all the Top Secret information finally be disclosed? As American people, are not all these things ours by birthright per the Constitution?
I know it's a simple-minded concept that would become really complicated really fast. If the percentage is 99% to 1%...kinda seems like the odds should always be in our favor. This is just some thoughts...not a serious concept. I just wondered what kind of thoughts and ideas you all might have.
Originally posted by sensible1
reply to post by jeantherapy
Yeah it just so happens you "woke up" by coincidence when a black man took office... How amazing the timing...
You racists are all the same... The KKK said they burned crosses for "religious" reasons... Here in the south, the rebels still say that the civil war was fought over "states rights.." Welll thankfully , there is a higher power to answer to..