Ron Paul Won (Great Read) - Huffington Post

Ron has already won in my book.

He has opened hearts and minds to the corruption that has infested the highest of offices. Once you have seen the light, there is no turning back. Once you have awoken from the sheep-like slumber you can not fall victim to the same sleeping pills that they use in an attempt to keep you comatose.

I now have an eagle eye on everything politics and researched all that I can.

I cant stand it when people say that they like what Ron is all about but refuse to vote for him in FEAR that it will split the vote and insure an Obama victory. All I can think when I hear that is "HELLLLLLOOOOO!!!!! You are supposed to be voting for the person YOU think would be best for the job. Not the guy you think the most people will bandwagon behind."

I will be writing Rons name in come November and I will have a clear conciious doing it. I will be casting MY vote for the man I truely believe is the most fit for the position.

~peace~

Take this to the streets, sounds like a good idea.

Outline Ron Pauls' political stance, and tell the public why he was cheated.

OR Just pass out pamphlets to prove that Americans are being cheated by the politicians -everywhere.

I can see it now, the kid on the corner of the street waves a flyer saying: "HOW DO YOU WIN ELECTIONS? - Change the Rules!!". "Ron Paul Ousted by Mitt Romney".

It only takes a laser printer and a couple of people on busystreet, anytown, anywhere.

I wonder how things go viral on the net. Does anyone know?

(Not that I support any particular candidate - just don't mind helping get fair deals).

I only hope this movement doesn't stop growing. It's your time, it's now or never...

Just goes to show how far the Republican Party has fallen, they like to think of themselves above the antics of the Democrats, but this shows they are about as bad.

Well Liberty is a fire within the hearts and minds of men/women.

And the GOP just poured gasoline all over it.

So what's it going to be folks? Get down on our knees and beg forgiveness for daring to question their system in the first place? Or finish what we started and dismantle this corrupt out of control system once and for all?

If you haven't noticed, we purveyors of liberty have been influencing and in many cases, controlling the direction of debates in politics lately. This is just the beginning of the end for the totalitarians.

What we need now is a political organization built on the liberty movement, an organization not tied to a party but rather an ideology. Not a political party, an organization willing to swing vast support in any direction it needs in order to further the cause of liberty with the support and enthusiasm that the Ron Paul movement has. Not a political party but a "political influence group" if you will... swing to the left, to the right, to the Libertarians or whatever it takes with no hesitation. The weakness of the duopoly is that it cannot change sides when necessary, the duopoly is loyal only to its "team", not its principles. The reason corporate interests are able to have so much influence is not only because of money, but because they could really care less about democratic or republican values and can go either route to achieve what they want.

Such an organization would grow powerful in the world of politics and many politicians and businessmen would probably soon come offering favors and bending to the liberty cause for support. Win one, lose one until all the pieces are in place, then take the game from the ground up. The most difficult part I think would be keeping it free of corruption and hold true to the cause of liberty. Unfortunately, corruption happens to everything.

The third non-party.

Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth.
- George Washington

Remember when Bush was in office, and said something to the effect of I'm the president, therefore I can do what I want? How can anyone still support the Republican party after this stunt? How can you live with yourself? Blatant CHEATING shows many bad qualities in a leader, and anyone who supports that is nothing but scum. They don't deserve to have a vote, because they have no moral compass or conscience. Those people are traitors to liberty and all of the other values this country was founded on. What right do these people have to change what so many people died trying to preserve? I hope all of those people get what's coming to them, in this life or the next. And they probably will.

Originally posted by freakjive

To that end, write in Ron Paul if a write-in vote will be counted in your state. If Ron Paul endorses someone, vote for him. Otherwise, vote Gary Johnson (or your favored third party candidate).

This advice is going to create a divide in the votes by three. Good article otherwise. But why would we not want to vote for the same thing? So because not every state counts write-ins then what we're going to need is to vote for either Johnson or Paul's endorsement. If Paul would endorse Johnson, then that might be ideal. Someone else posed the idea of Paul as Johnson's vice. This idea would take the risk of divided votes out of the equation completely. Anybody see it possible?


On another note -- how does the impeachment process work again?

Originally posted by ollncasino
reply to post by freakjive

 

Its a wonder that Ron Paul hasn't had an accident yet.

The older I become, the more that I suspect that democracy in the West is just smoke and mirrors.

You think?

C'mon...the whole world watched the CIA murder the President of the United States in broad daylight on November 22, 1963.

From that day forward anyone who thought we have a "democracy" or even a democratically-inspired republican form of government is absolutely out of their minds.

Originally posted by frequentflyer

Originally posted by freakjive

To that end, write in Ron Paul if a write-in vote will be counted in your state. If Ron Paul endorses someone, vote for him. Otherwise, vote Gary Johnson (or your favored third party candidate).

This advice is going to create a divide in the votes by three. Good article otherwise. But why would we not want to vote for the same thing? So because not every state counts write-ins then what we're going to need is to vote for either Johnson or Paul's endorsement. If Paul would endorse Johnson, then that might be ideal. Someone else posed the idea of Paul as Johnson's vice. This idea would take the risk of divided votes out of the equation completely. Anybody see it possible?


On another note -- how does the impeachment process work again?

That would certainly be the most logical approach...wouldn't it?

It's about time libertarians in both parties wake up and recognize the Libertarian Party, who is running Gary Johnson for president. If these libertarians who support Ron Paul are truly this indignant at the blatant cheating by Romney and the GOP elite, then it's time to make a real move toward a viable third-party candidate.

That was a great read, but unfortunately I find it to be overly optimistic.

Last night I turned the TV to the coverage of the RNC and I got to listen to the first round of speakers and I believe I saw the future. A future of BS and lies, and a barrage of rhetoric that sounds as if it had come from Ron Paul himself.

I sat shocked as I watched Rick Santorum speak of "Liberty" and smaller Government.

Rick Santorum.

The same man who said Government should be involved in the bedroom and every aspect of people's lives because those are true conservative values. is now speaking about "Liberty". I listened as other speaks came along and the message to me was clear. I continued, speaker after speaker, to hear all the keywords. Smaller Government, Liberty, no intrusions, civil liberties, fiscal responsibility. It did not shock me that I heard these things, it was the people who were saying them and what they were saying being a direct contradiction to the things said by either themselves- or the Candidate they are pimping.


The "Liberty Movement" is going to be hijacked. We will watch the Tea Party version 2.0. They ( The Republicans) are going to repeat the lines while doing something else entirely. Politicians have always been accused of saying one thing and doing another. Always- but mark my words........... the bar is getting ready to be raised.

Originally posted by artnut
I'd like to see talk radio address this. Come on Hannity, Rush and Beck, let's see what you are really made of. All of the conservatives need to hear this in an unbiased manner, let them know the Republicans need to be held accountable.

This is the first year I have ever really decided my vote does not count, probably never has, but I don't even want to touch a ballot considering what we have to choose from. Ugh.

There are two stations in Houston that have covered Ron Paul. You can get them from iheart radio. The two shows are Matt Patrick and Michael Berry. Berry is also in Baton Rouge, Memphis, Portland OR and San Antonio.

Give him a listen.

all the ron paul posts and supporters confuse the crap out of me.. is this guy even still a valid candidate at all? if he is i vote for him in a second i don't really care what he's about all i know that the other 2 dudes are not an alternative, i like obama and he came into a mess bush made of the country so i still had a glimer of hope for him but it diminished rather quickly and romeny wow how in the world did this guy even make it as far as he did? all i can guess is there's more rich people than i had realized. ron seems crazy enough that he could actually do some good.. that or plunge us into some weird psychotic reality that ends us. either way i'm definitely down just so long as SOMETHING happens in any direction.

my anger is at an all time high and it's not from what's going on in the world it's that WE don't put it in check. i'm to old and sick to "start" the revolution but i will follow anyone who does 'till my death so get the F up off your couch and lets do this. action not words.

If B.O. Wins, we can safely assume we're going to continue down this path we're on. That path you can decide the fundamental meaning. If Romney wins, I think on an economic level things will improve (it's just a guess, and I don't care to guess how much things will improve) however Romney and his V.P. are far to involved with taking other freedoms away....namely women's rights. I just finished Rand Paul and I was completely taken back by how real the guys is, I agree wholeheartedly with him. I have a strong need, as does this crappy nation of ours, that Ron Paul not be side stepped he must know the rules! Why does he not contest the 8 state vs 5 state, amended on the fly rule?! I really like R.P. but he needs to come out swinging!

Originally posted by milominderbinder

Originally posted by frequentflyer

Originally posted by freakjive

To that end, write in Ron Paul if a write-in vote will be counted in your state. If Ron Paul endorses someone, vote for him. Otherwise, vote Gary Johnson (or your favored third party candidate).

This advice is going to create a divide in the votes by three. Good article otherwise. But why would we not want to vote for the same thing? So because not every state counts write-ins then what we're going to need is to vote for either Johnson or Paul's endorsement. If Paul would endorse Johnson, then that might be ideal. Someone else posed the idea of Paul as Johnson's vice. This idea would take the risk of divided votes out of the equation completely. Anybody see it possible?


On another note -- how does the impeachment process work again?

That would certainly be the most logical approach...wouldn't it?

Aww look at you and your condescending approach. Feel better?

Originally posted by fourthmeal
reply to post by woodwardjnr

 

Because 3rd parties are ignored completely by media, and thus trivialized to the point of a total waste of time.


This is a 2 party system, and until radical changes in the society come about (the realization that there are more than 2 choices would be a start), then we are stuck. But I think things are changing, at least in about 10% of us.

I thought for sure that RP would have gone all the way to the republican convention as a republican, and then go third party. Third party candidates never win nomination, this is because they go “start to finish” as a third party candidate. Not only would the Republican Party lose a boat load of their base to RP, but RP would also gain the independent voters and most of the Obama voters who will not vote for a republican, but would be will willing to vote for someone else. So what the HELL happened? All he would have had to do was go third party once he lost to Romney.

If RP was smart, he would let Romney win and then sign on as a third party candidate. Am I the only one who sees the logic in this?

reply to post by RSF77


We already have those they're called lobbyists. Of course, they're typically used for nefarious purposes whereas yours seem ambivalent

reply to post by Propulsion


It's a big risk, the GOP is likely to pull out everything to get him off the ballot like the Democrats did to Nader. The GOP also went after the Constitution party recently. Their candidate dropped out of PA because if he lose he would have had to fork over 100,000 dollars.
www.constitutionparty.com...

This is exactly how Romney pays taxes, wins elections and will if given the chance run the country...by cheating and lieing.