Bashar Telepathy DEBUNKED

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: tanka418


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And, that, I feel, is the crux of your issue...the real crux; Daryl is too much of a showman, and has the temerity to actually have some "fun" with it."


And there it is. Darryl is a showman! You said it and you probably don't even know what you said lol. Darryl IS the SHOWMAN. not Bashar.
FRAUD=HOAX=DefreakingBunked. Game over. Your subconscious betrayed you. You know as well as I do Darryl is acting, putting on a show. You meant to say Bashar is the showman but you said Darryl. A slip. I think you just don't ever like to be wrong about things and would rather defend lunacy than to admit someone else may be right. Your subconscious betrayed you man.

Yes there it is; your prejudice...

I'm sorry man, but absolutely none of this proves hoax, fraud, etc. except perhaps the show you have been putting on over this. You have some secret, probably even to yourself, that makes you so vehement toward Bashar. You make a "deal" out of Daryl having a wee bit of fun with it, perhaps entertaining a few. Tell me; have you ever heard of "infotainment?" Ya might want to check it out.

And then you have the temerity to assail my intelligence?!?!!! Indeed!

No, you have asked a question, you didn't like the answer. An answer from experienced people, so you rejected it, and now you can't get any of us to listen to your question, mainly because you have a serious misunderstanding issue which you must get over first...then you may seek answers.

Many of these sort of thing (telepathy, etc.) are "Transcendental" in nature, which actually handicaps the explanation process, so it is necessary to not reject anything out-of-hand, and instead attempt to understand it.

Okay, this is what gets me about people like this. If his body is being used by a ET, then why not ask him questions about something that would prove it. Like a math formula or something that would make people stand up and listen.

Its the same with the people who say they are in contact with the dead. Obviously they can hear the dead person, so why does the medium always say "I want to talk to bob, bill, Barry" etc. Or " can I talk to someone who had there hair cut two days ago"

Why doesn't the spirit just say there name and who they want to talk too.

Its all a scam

a reply to: tanka418

Bah bullsh!t. What you call "answers" from "experienced" people is nothing but blind indoctrinated faith. There's no misunderstanding on my part, just on yours. And yes, I have the temerity to assail your intelligence. lol. You're a fool for defending this guy. Bottom line. Infotainment you call it now eh? Darryl is a showman with a background in show biz and entertainment is what you get. You can hold your breath until you're blue in the face or drop dead from trying but I am correct and you have had your ass handed to you.

Many of these sort of thing (telepathy, etc.) are "Transcendental" in nature, which actually handicaps the explanation process, so it is necessary to not reject anything out-of-hand, and instead attempt to understand it.

Again, more nonsense. More indoctrinated faith based nonsense. Handicap an explanation. lmao. There is no explanation because you can't get one from fantasy. Give it up mate. You're done.

originally posted by: FlySoloBah bullsh!t. What you call "answers" from "experienced" people is nothing but blind indoctrinated faith. There's no misunderstanding on my part, just on yours. And yes, I have the temerity to assail your intelligence. lol. You're a fool for defending this guy. Bottom line. Infotainment you call it now eh? Darryl is a showman with a background in show biz and entertainment is what you get. You can hold your breath until you're blue in the face or drop dead from trying but I am correct and you have had your ass handed to you.



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Again, more nonsense. More indoctrinated faith based nonsense. Handicap an explanation. lmao. There is no explanation because you can't get one from fantasy. Give it up mate. You're done.

In as much as I am one of those experienced people, I can tell you now you are wholly in error. I have absolutely NO "blind indoctrinated faith". I don't operate on faith, in any way...haven't for over 40 years.

You really need to understand; I'm NOT defending Bashar / Daryl, I'm defending Telepathy, truth and reality. Again, you have this very great misunderstanding of Telepathy, which you are quite unwilling to let go of, or even investigate in any way. You have made up your mind, and to hell with truth and reality...it can only be YOUR way! You are wrong!

originally posted by: Jay-morris
Okay, this is what gets me about people like this. If his body is being used by a ET, then why not ask him questions about something that would prove it. Like a math formula or something that would make people stand up and listen.

Well, first of all; his body isn't being used by ET.
Second; even IF ET did give y'all an equation, it could be years to never for you to verify it. Since "proof" of being for ET is something that works best in "real time" the use of evidence that can't be used in the "hear and now" is kind of irrelevant.

Third; ET, once actually did give just such evidence, evidence that took years to be verified, and still not completely. The result so far is; ET has said nothing. So you see, even IF ET did something like this; y'all would simply ignore it and continue to make the same demands.

Its all a scam

Unfortunately, sometimes it actually is, other times, it simply is not. What remains is that One simply can not just decide using what they "want" they have to apply real scientific procedure.

a reply to: tanka418

News flash for you. I already believe in telepathy. I don't believe in Bashar. You better get yourself on the right side of the debate. I'm tired of going in circles with you.

Whereas I believe in telepathy and have an open mind about Bashar. And I'll keep it that way. I'm really only a fan of my own experiences, especially beyond ufology, when the curtain lifts and infloods of Higher Self or Fuller Soul occurs and you are graced with knowledge, like a gift given. Thats the jackpot in life.

All these things are subjective, sharing paranormal. As for the authenticity of any given psychic or ghost buster, or channeler, its hard to give that to another. You can't judge if the person makes money from a book or charges attendance, that is not cut and dried in a world where everything takes money. In the end, if someone is uplifted and graviates towards information, thats the important thing.

I always get turned off by the way channelers click into a mode and their voices change, and then notice similarities between one channeler and the next. I don't like that. Don't know if its part of the ritual to create that division in a meditative way to enhance the ability to channel however. Maybe they need those props to foster training the subconscious or conscious to sift the info for the portal in.

But it bothers me.

But I won't judge it. Abraham Hicks and Bashar do not leave me with that cloying sticky gravity jaki type invasive feeling that some channelers do, ie Cassiopean Wave, channeled on a ouiji board, that was pushed on me aggressively by someone on ats who thought he was the judger of others and I only promised to read what I already felt that demonic aura to be polite and end the conversation. And sure enough, going against my own gift of energy recognition endangered my family, made me sick, and my youngest son woke up with paralysis and hooded beings. He broke free. So, I tend to trust my energy recognition and the two I mentioned don't activate the intense warning signals.

Another time my energy signals kicked in was in a school. Not recess, but classroom was moving to another, ie library or gym or computer lab, while I was awaiting a special ed meeting. And this intense feeling that I had to protect the children there was an immediate threat. Spider senses going off back of my neck. I had a vision of holding a light sword over the school as if was an angel or something odd like that, and a protector of children, and then I turned to look behind me where this danger was coming from. It was the Queens portrait on the wall. Made me question a lot of things, such as, photographs give access. Things are all wave formation. Our spirits come from Higher Level s and we're supposed to go within and work through our anger and issues and wake up and become more empowered yet without ego?

But that is one moment the veil lifted as I was that person and knew this was me but was not in empowered state to do anything. Not saying I'm an angel, perhaps Higher Self is more like that and I'm just someone trying to head that way with training wheels on. But to me veil lifting and information coming like that unexpectantly tops ufolgoy experiences I've had enormously. They're more like my knowledge, something I know inside that is hidden from me in the earth school.

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: tanka418

News flash for you. I already believe in telepathy. I don't believe in Bashar. You better get yourself on the right side of the debate. I'm tired of going in circles with you.

Perhaps, but, your Telepathy is like the Unicorn. Non-existent and pure fantasy, as is evidenced by your lack of understanding. While electric current, and, water, flow have many commonalities; they are still NOT the same.

If you don't like the circles, I suggest you learn something about real telepathy, then we may have something in common. And, perhaps then you will begin to understand that what is exhibited by Bashar / Daryl is so very much like real telepathy as to be indistinguishable. And, you will also begin to understand where much of the confusion originates.

Finally, we haven't been talking about what you believe, but rather, what you understand...two different things.

Weather or not this is true, it's still a interresting topic. To get the picture of this you need to understand that "we" do not really understand that much. A lot of things are suppressed and hidden from us by the, so called, "Elite".

Bashar seems to have a quite wide range of knowledge, formal & structured language. Yet, the thing to notice is that when entering the Bashar awareness. Darryl just completely leaves his body language and a "new" person appears.

As long as he helps people, fine!

a reply to: tanka418

No, you're running around in circles with this this. If you don't know how to answer it, you just gloss over it with a blanket statement saying "I don't understand it". I'll repeat it again. IF the Essansi people can watch us and learn all about our civilization with a hologram based on our coordinates, then why can't they "channel" to Darryl something he can't possibly know?

You'll come back with some gobbledygook again saying my expectation is based on my misunderstanding of telepathy.

originally posted by: tanka418

originally posted by: Jay-morris
Okay, this is what gets me about people like this. If his body is being used by a ET, then why not ask him questions about something that would prove it. Like a math formula or something that would make people stand up and listen.

So how can you believe him? Like others, they have
evidence whatsoever. Just like mediums, they say what you want to hear.

Another thing. I'm gathering that these ET's just don't understand English, so why don't they speak
a different language through him. Has he gone to
others countries to do this, and if so, did the ET change the language. Something tells me no!

Well, first of all; his body isn't being used by ET.
Second; even IF ET did give y'all an equation, it could be years to never for you to verify it. Since "proof" of being for ET is something that works best in "real time" the use of evidence that can't be used in the "hear and now" is kind of irrelevant.

Third; ET, once actually did give just such evidence, evidence that took years to be verified, and still not completely. The result so far is; ET has said nothing. So you see, even IF ET did something like this; y'all would simply ignore it and continue to make the same demands.

Its all a scam

Unfortunately, sometimes it actually is, other times, it simply is not. What remains is that One simply can not just decide using what they "want" they have to apply real scientific procedure.

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: tanka418

No, you're running around in circles with this this. If you don't know how to answer it, you just gloss over it with a blanket statement saying "I don't understand it". I'll repeat it again. IF the Essansi people can watch us and learn all about our civilization with a hologram based on our coordinates, then why can't they "channel" to Darryl something he can't possibly know?

In as much as I don't know any of the Essansi people. You sure of that spelling? I would have no way to evaluate their technology. Or perhaps that is more misunderstanding, though not necessarily on your part.

And then there is the issue of interpretation. When Daryl "receives" something, he has to properly interpret what he "sees", doing that is probably "why" he goes into his act; it helps to remove "Daryl" from the equation. Unfortunately, he still must work with Daryl's knowledge and experience, for it is all that any of us have (our own knowledge and experience).

IF something is sent to Daryl that is outside his knowledge and experience, it is much more likely to misinterpret it. Bashar would know this, and would also keep that sort of thing to a minimum. I'm sure you would agree that misinterpretation would be rather counter productive.

You'll come back with some gobbledygook again saying my expectation is based on my misunderstanding of telepathy.

So there ya have it; some of my very best gobbledygook...

originally posted by: Jay-morris
So how can you believe him? Like others, they have
evidence whatsoever. Just like mediums, they say what you want to hear.

This is actually a different issue than the one of Telepathy. And, all I am saying is that Bashar / Daryl is consistent with Telepathy...even IF Daryl used unorthodox technique.

Another thing. I'm gathering that these ET's just don't understand English, so why don't they speak
a different language through him. Has he gone to
others countries to do this, and if so, did the ET change the language. Something tells me no!

This has already been addressed, and explained; Bashar can't understand anything that Daryl does not.

a reply to: tanka418

When Daryl "receives" something, he has to properly interpret what he "sees", doing that is probably "why" he goes into his act;

It's all an act for the love of humanity!

Darryl isn't even talking it's supposedly "Bashar" The accent, the gestures, the jokes, its all a Bashar persona, not Darryl. When people are having a Q&A they're speaking directly to Bashar. If I were an audience member and asked "how long have you been watching earth" he would say something like "a thousands of years" But would not be able to tell the me any details about anything during that time which isn't already public record. Don't you find that suspicious? Like me claiming to be a time traveler but unable to tell you anything about it. Please, use your head.

a reply to: tanka418

Bashar can't understand anything that Daryl does not.

Wrong. See my post above. IF Bashar knows about world history long before Darryl was born, then this should prove Bashar can and does understand without the need for Darryl.

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: tanka418

When Daryl "receives" something, he has to properly interpret what he "sees", doing that is probably "why" he goes into his act;

It's all an act for the love of humanity!

Darryl isn't even talking it's supposedly "Bashar" The accent, the gestures, the jokes, its all a Bashar persona, not Darryl. When people are having a Q&A they're speaking directly to Bashar. If I were an audience member and asked "how long have you been watching earth" he would say something like "a thousands of years" But would not be able to tell the me any details about anything during that time which isn't already public record. Don't you find that suspicious? Like me claiming to be a time traveler but unable to tell you anything about it. Please, use your head.

No...actually I find it rather irrelevant. I, or indeed, anybody, who lived through the times could write a book on the ascent of "modern" technology. Talk at some length about the impact of the microprocessor...write hundreds of pages...and never once get "specific".

You, your approach, strikes e a whole lot like those who want ET to provide some "new" / "unkown" mathematical equation without realizing that such a thing shows nothing, as t becomes totally unverifiable. So what would you have Bashar give you...next weeks lotto numbers? Will you wait for next week before you proclaim him wrong?

In some circles it is rather well known that while One may experience vast passages of time, they can only remember the "broad strokes"; in other words, it's not too probable that Bashar has much by way of detail, and what he does have, he must relate through Daryl...and now we're back to the translation issues again, which you have already demonstrated an inability to grasp. But then again, I wonder IF you truly don't understand, or IF you actually refuse to understand.

I was skeptical of Bashar for a long time though there are a few reasons why I have come to belief him a 100%:

He would answer any sort of question from anyone without hesitating in a direct, precise and clear way.
And not just questions that you can just make up a vague answer for, all the doctors and scientists that have asked him questions that I have seen have walked away very satisfied every time.

Now some might say, well all these people who have asked him these questions are all simply actors.

Well, okay fair enough but I don't think that's probable, all of the interactions certainly seem very real, fluid and spontaneous. He also has over hundreds of hours of material and never has anyone come forward saying that is was staged or that they were asked to ask him a question. Also, the information has helped a lot of people, including myself.

Never the less, I still found it hard to belief at times, it's really out there still...

Until this happened, basically I had a dream in where I died, I was greeted by a guide and by my deceased father, I asked my father if I could go see Bashar's civilization, he simply denied, 'okay can I then see Sirius?' (a civilization Bashar also sometimes talks about), and he complied, we flew into space and we came upon this huge eye and we went through it and it became some sort of fractalized portal. I went through it and now things became weird, I was in a tourist bus, in a jungle and in the jungle were puppies, I got out of the bus and saw some weird human looking creatures, they said some weird stuff and the dream ended (Bashar says that dreams are sometimes symbols of experiences we have had).
So why is that dream so special, well a week later (!) Bashar released a new talk. I downloaded it and they discussed some of the symbols that some of these different civilizations had, and to my great excitement, the symbol that he gave for Sirius was an eye.

That had me convinced a 100%.
A long with this, his teachings has always been very synchronous (meaning: meaningful coincidences) for me.

I will also take a private session soon, so if anyone of you has any questions that you think should be asked, please do.

I also made a topic for that here if anyone is interested, hope it's okay to link it other wise please edit it out:
bashar-forum.org...

originally posted by: AlwaysBeNice
I was skeptical of Bashar for a long time though there are a few reasons why I have come to belief him a 100%:

He would answer any sort of question from anyone without hesitating in a direct, precise and clear way.
And not just questions that you can just make up a vague answer for, all the doctors and scientists that have asked him questions that I have seen have walked away very satisfied every time.

Now some might say, well all these people who have asked him these questions are all simply actors.

Well, okay fair enough but I don't think that's probable, all of the interactions certainly seem very real, fluid and spontaneous. He also has over hundreds of hours of material and never has anyone come forward saying that is was staged or that they were asked to ask him a question. Also, the information has helped a lot of people, including myself.

Never the less, I still found it hard to belief at times, it's really out there still...

Until this happened, basically I had a dream in where I died, I was greeted by a guide and by my deceased father, I asked my father if I could go see Bashar's civilization, he simply denied, 'okay can I then see Sirius?' (a civilization Bashar also sometimes talks about), and he complied, we flew into space and we came upon this huge eye and we went through it and it became some sort of fractalized portal. I went through it and now things became weird, I was in a tourist bus, in a jungle and in the jungle were puppies, I got out of the bus and saw some weird human looking creatures, they said some weird stuff and the dream ended (Bashar says that dreams are sometimes symbols of experiences we have had).
So why is that dream so special, well a week later (!) Bashar released a new talk. I downloaded it and they discussed some of the symbols that some of these different civilizations had, and to my great excitement, the symbol that he gave for Sirius was an eye.

That had me convinced a 100%.
A long with this, his teachings has always been very synchronous (meaning: meaningful coincidences) for me.

I will also take a private session soon, so if anyone of you has any questions that you think should be asked, please do.

I also made a topic for that here if anyone is interested, hope it's okay to link it other wise please edit it out:
bashar-forum.org...

No disclosure in 2015 yet as he claimed neither the majority of the planet believes in ETs as per his claim, you can ask him about that but of course the answer would probably be that the future is not set in stone and with the current rate of 'vibration' this aint gonna happen

Seriously? Bashar threads popping up again? LOL!

a reply to: FlySolo

I have discussed this "debunking" with someone with opposite views than mine and of opposite gender. We agree that if PERSON A. sends messages telepathically to PERSON B. and PERSON B. is the source to speak with others and only has a limited language to express himself to the others, and to understand others, then it makes sense for translation. If I try to use the Internet off the original version of Windows it wouldn't work because the binary code is limited and needs more drivers or a new Windows program to translate information from one source through the other...to find or communicate to the world wide web. If someone sent me to Mexico with a message in mind to communicate to non- English speaking people then me as the source is limited for communication. If the entity even wrote or told me or sent a message mentally to my mind to communicate, even the pronunciation would be improper due to my limit of language and culture. That is an issue of a source with limitation being a filter. No different than using the wrong size filter for my car to transfer something , or an oil filter as my cars air filter. We on earth do not have a portal for instant language translation like on the movie "Click". Or similarly like a auto correct on a phone that sometimes sends a word unintended due to a limited cypher.
Someone commented that he should prove himself to...obviously the "skeptics" about a specific event in future or a missed game. This being channeling to this man, believes in transferring to parallel dimensions that fit where your mind set is at and what experiences you need at the time. So in the sense of "free will" to follow a path or go against it...would change an outcome like a "butterfly effect". If you would add a thought like moving about different dimensions with different experiences similar to " fringe" or the idea similar to "time travel"...then what is the outcome. That is to say everything is "set in stone", and each moment from exactly when and how fast you...for example take each step...or exactly each traffic jam is meant and set in stone....so that game is ultimately canceled through a strict "effect" each person has on one thing to the next.
In fact, almost all his seminars are completely "Q. & A" When he says " Are you following me " is no different when a person asks if you're listening or understand. While individuals say "yes" it's simply a response. It is a very ignorant to say these people are "stupid" or insinuate such...but follow with " you're not stupid" and by " debunking " you insinuate you are not brainwashed. What color and how tall is your "HIGH HORSE PEDESTAL SIR OR MA'AM" What prerequisites do you have or are you a psychologist to determine many anonymous people as stupid.
His information is profound similarly to my Chinese fortune cookie quotes...which sometimes I need to ponder or meditate further on the quote...the thought...the information. There is also an issue of take what is useful and leave the rest. As I study opposing concepts I take what is useful and leave the rest. If these people are following the crowd it's
A crowd of the " same feather". There are options beyond galore out there for belief systems. This one does not require or put down other beliefs or religions. The entity isn't telling him to cut your extra skin or female part and drink or feed poisonous punch to your children. There is no harm. In fact he speaks of following your joy mainly and breaking away from negativity.
This article is a limited filter with no knowledge of the sources background. What you believe religously, what expertise do you have in debunking or calling an individual out and not exposing who you are, how long and how much time investigating this subject...ect...ect.
Tomatoes vs catsup vs tomatos." Ghost Hunters"are skeptical as they are closed minded...and do not see as much and do not experience as much as "Ghost Adventures. " One individual put through "HELL" with one partner...may be closed minded enough not to notice a WONDERFUL partner when he sees one.
If someone was to " debunk" skeptics...some might say skeptics don't understand and need to be skeptical...might say it's a power trip to influence others to believe Thier view...some may say it could be fear based...ect...ect. Religious wars still continue 100 years later by skeptical people trying to influence, control, enforce, or sway others through intimidation to change many views. Which all in all is closed minded.
I hope in maturing in age that I can stop stereotyping others and things...as it seems here. And the thought of entities staring at me while I go about my day, or aliens coming in my home and lurking about, or taking me away is scary. To have a transmission or someone there to buffer the shock is more comforting. To give me different views that can calm my stressful mind is useful. I don't look for what I don't need, I take what is useful and thoughtful. This being is no different than "Abraham " the channeler which lead to the book and movie "The Secret "
I do thank you and appreciate your post to spark passion in me to express my post.