Bashar Telepathy DEBUNKED

a reply to: NavyDoc

he went offline so I reported it. Can you believe that? Can't make threads anymore about his hero so he spams the debunk thread instead. There's got to be a word for that....

a reply to: NavyDoc

Jim Jones ..is easily "debunkable" .

Bashar is not.

Thats why people can find many things that are wrong with jim jones concepts ..but not with bashars concepts.





There is not one Concept from bashar ..that was debunked

in 30 years...

Jim Jones couldnt do that.

As i said: listen to 2 hours bashar....listen to 2 hours jim jones... SEE the difference.
But do it....watch it for more than a few minutes.... You will know.

a reply to: FlySolo

this thread is not a debunk thread...as many have tried to explain..A shame that you think you debunked anything

originally posted by: kauskau
...and for the sceptics once again one talk which shows his genius in even simple topics :

No, it shows he just spews the normal new age crap, and the gullible fall for it.

originally posted by: kauskau
a reply to: FlySolo

this thread is not a debunk thread...

Yes it is, look at the title, "Bashar Telepathy DEBUNKED" it shows Anka is a fraud, just making up Bashar to fleece the gullible.

a reply to: hellobruce

nice...
the title already is enough to hypnotize you in thinking that he was debunked.

No he was not..As many people in this thread pointed out with their explanation about how telepathy works.

The main concept was: he is not real because he can only speak english..

That was all..the "debunking" was based on.

But believe what you will...

originally posted by: kauskau
a reply to: hellobruce

nice...
the title already is enough to hypnotize you in thinking that he was debunked.

No he was not..As many people in this thread pointed out with their explanation about how telepathy works.

The main concept was: he is not real because he can only speak english..

That was all..the "debunking" was based on.

But believe what you will...

No it wasn't. The premise is why can't he translate if he receives information from omnipotent beings whom already know the answers because they have an ability to see into our personal lives without our knowledge. But alas, you can't grasp the question. Plus there's tons of other contributions debunking him back to the stone age. Don't respond. This is only to set the record.

originally posted by: kauskau
a reply to: NavyDoc

Jim Jones ..is easily "debunkable" .

Bashar is not.

Thats why people can find many things that are wrong with jim jones concepts ..but not with bashars concepts.





There is not one Concept from bashar ..that was debunked

in 30 years...

Jim Jones couldnt do that.

As i said: listen to 2 hours bashar....listen to 2 hours jim jones... SEE the difference.
But do it....watch it for more than a few minutes.... You will know.

You can't prove a negative. That's a logical fallacy that is embraced by the brainwashed. The followers of Jim Jones said exactly the same sort of thing that you do.

originally posted by: kauskau
a reply to: hellobruce

nice...
the title already is enough to hypnotize you in thinking that he was debunked.

No he was not..As many people in this thread pointed out with their explanation about how telepathy works.

The main concept was: he is not real because he can only speak english..

That was all..the "debunking" was based on.

But believe what you will...

People can point out how they think "telepathy" works, but that is rally not evidence of anything.

originally posted by: NavyDoc
People can point out how they think "telepathy" works, but that is rally not evidence of anything.

I'd like to relate a wee "telepathy story" to ya. I don't give a damn what ya think of it...

Yesterday, I was talking with one of my colleges on a design project, I can't give details of the project...proprietary and all that.

Anyway; he stated that a "magnetic field" would be produced in an area where my electronics isn't designed to product one. I asked; "How?"

Before he answered; I knew what he would say, almost verbatim...

Now...to tie this together...

I have been spend what time and resource I can on learning to actually USE telepathy. And, have slowly been learning to use it. Yesterday represents one of the first events where I actually used and understood data from another. You should understand that my friend is very interested in my progress; he is a Physicist. He was nearly as astatic about yesterday's event as I was.

Now, I know this is taken out of context when considered as a component to an ongoing research project and training regimen, But, it does demonstrate an amount of progress in a system that is founded on scientific theory, regardless of "how fringe" it may seem to the layman.

So, I'm thinking , that given the progress I'm making; Perhaps I know a little about telepathy. You can read my comments on telepathy on any of a number of threads and posts here on ATS, and, in this thread.

a reply to: FlySolo

Well, its not like magic. They don't download into the person the whole data base of languages. In a real sense, positive channeling, is your own Self or Higher Self. I am not a "channeling" fan as I believe like a ouji board there is so much negative hijacking that can go on but also do understand that its not one thing or cut and dried. In his case, I already sensed Greys around him and an Et message coming through. And also that he's connecting to his Self out of time. Whether or not its done in a forced way, with that style that is popular, that I've seen others mimic, it always bothers me so I think, well if its all natural why snap into those mannerisms. But even if that part is a bit faked, its kind of ritual to allow Mind, Consciousness to separate roles. So I think that snapping into this other personna actually assists the channeling, who is really meditating.

Negative channeling is more like possession, positive channeling is more like meditation.

But you would be working with the person and their limitations. Their language understanding, their view of the world even.

That person is still human, in tests, and has only gotten so much of the curtain rising for themselves based on past and current efforts if you will.

Some people wonder why some are chosen in various ways, when everyone is equal. Everyone is, but all have not done the same preparation or passed the same gamuts, unlocked things at the same time. People who have some of the spiritual and peace, love, ufology, guidance, various gifts, the more positive versions of experiences, have earned them in past lives. Some simply came in from Home and don't bother with reincarnation over and over, but actually here a call, come in, but with a big support system because they don't want to fall in a lower realm. They consider this entire way or method of learning primitive. So sure, you can take advantage of some lower frequency stuff that occurred in your life and learn from it, but its not the preferred method so they're just here to help. And so its set up for them because that higher mind understanding is honored above all other things.

In any case, I can't remember if that video was included, the interview with him where he talked about the crafts he saw and the experiences, but he has a standard MO profile for real ET liason, involvement and understandings.

So I don't consider him hoax. And would even say, if he had set out to hoax people, he got snared by the Higher Ups to really be used to help others.

Higher Ups are far less serious about these things or rigid. They can take advantage of any moment even a contrived one and turn it around to benefit others.

So I don't consider him debunked, and language is just yours. They use you, as you are. They certainly wouldn't ruin your earth experience tests by lifting the veil and giving you super human powers.

Everything is filtered through the human and human perception.

Anything else would be considered direct interference with the school.

I think I should add here, its not possession, not sure if someone who is legitimately possessed can speak in other languages or translate, but positive "channeling" is something a little less taken over.

a reply to: Unity_99

I don't know what all that was about but it doesn't address my main premise why he's not channeling entities.

Information he receives is from omnipotent beings whom already know ALL answers ABOUT US because they have an ability to see into our personal lives without our knowledge, but only information about "new age" is he able to talk about. He can't talk about anything that happens in a foreign language even though that information comes from omnipotent beings anyway. I've explained this 400 friggen times 400 different ways. I don't care about anecdotes, possessions, this or that. I only care about having my DEBUNK theory answered in an intelligent way with no distractions or off topic responses.

originally posted by: FlySolo

Information he receives is from omnipotent beings

Just where in this vast Universe are you getting this "omnipotent" bull#.

I am neither a fan nor follower of Bashar, but, no where in anything I experienced has Bashar come off as being omnipotent.

He may talk in "lofty" terms, and act like he is...well perhaps an ET, but, nowhere have I seen "omnipotent". I feel this is just one of your misunderstandings of this whole set of event.

I've explained this 400 friggen times 400 different ways.

Just what have you explained 400 different ways? Your hypothesis on why Bashar requires a translator?

I and several others have explained this quite adequately...You refuse to listen and continue to insist that this all meet YOUR specifications, when of course, it won't, it can't... Your thoughts on telepathy are entirely incorrect. And, before you go into telling us why you know better, perhaps because you have done some research, please consider; You can't employ telepathy, some of us can. Who would you think would have the greater knowledge?

a reply to: FlySolo

Bashar's case is a ufology one, with sitings and a gradual waking up. Don't know if he jumped onto a bandwagon when he started channeling but there is a feeling about him, ie speaking from his Higher Mind or Aspects of Self. Which is what he says, his other life in Sirius. All our lives are concurrent. Time is just a program in our brains and our star. And many of us believe this is just a movie or holographic movie, but kind of like a freedom school playpen and virus vault all rolled up into one. Somebodies reaching through him to get some help out. So however he started it, the door is open there for him.

I also sense his open line to greys. I keep writing that but he has something watching over and sending out their tidbits too.

But whoever knows more than we do, (and that isn't just ets or angels, but your own soul knows more than the sliver of you interfacing with this world) can only lift the veil so much and in areas we have earned or unlocked. Else the whole thing is ruined. The whole movie, ie like when someone ruins a movie for others by giving spoilers. Well that would interfere with tests.

So whoever can get through, has to do so within a framework of what is allowed.

Thats why disclosure doesnt happen and things drip out bit by bit as well. Its not allowed. People could force it, but that would take everyone seeing through the world and saying, screw this, not willing to participate in such a joke, and not willing to harm others, obviously equality and love and abundance and freedom and goodness need to be the platform, and so everyone, or the vast majority, would quit, and ask for it to be over and for this world to upgrade. Then that might be an option. They may be tested to see how real they were and if it was just a selfish short term wish, so it may take persistence. But the veil would actually lift then and they would have earned it.

originally posted by: tanka418

originally posted by: FlySolo

Information he receives is from omnipotent beings

Just where in this vast Universe are you getting this "omnipotent" bull#.

I am neither a fan nor follower of Bashar, but, no where in anything I experienced has Bashar come off as being omnipotent.

He may talk in "lofty" terms, and act like he is...well perhaps an ET, but, nowhere have I seen "omnipotent". I feel this is just one of your misunderstandings of this whole set of event.

I've explained this 400 friggen times 400 different ways.

Just what have you explained 400 different ways? Your hypothesis on why Bashar requires a translator?

I and several others have explained this quite adequately...You refuse to listen and continue to insist that this all meet YOUR specifications, when of course, it won't, it can't... Your thoughts on telepathy are entirely incorrect. And, before you go into telling us why you know better, perhaps because you have done some research, please consider; You can't employ telepathy, some of us can. Who would you think would have the greater knowledge?

First, this isn't a thread titled "telepathy debunked" It's only about Anka.
Second, the omnipotent part is my bit. That's my sarcastic way of calling him a "know-it-all"
Third, since the conception of this thread I have struggled multiple times to say the same thing. I have used pretty much every word in my vocabulary and every analogy I can think of to explain why Anka is not channeling anyone.

I and several others have explained this quite adequately...You refuse to listen and continue to insist that this all meet YOUR specifications

No, you refuse to listen. Every time I say it, you or someone else comes along with something completely irrelevant and off topic. It's not my specifications. I'll say it again (401x now) Anka is getting information from beings who can see us without our knowledge. They admit to using our "coordinates" to pop in and out. So why can't they tell Anka something he can't possibly know? It's not just limited to language or a translator, in encompasses everything.

This is effing insane man. Making me say it again. Either admit you don't know what I'm asking, don't understand English, or refuse to acknowledge I have a valid question.

eta: It doesn't matter, telepathy, channeling, dreaming, watching tv or listening to the radio. It's the "source" of the information which is the crux of my argument. All those other things are just transmission mediums. You can explain how all of those things work as many times as you like but you're wasting my and your time. I don't care how a radio works when I'm interested in the SOURCE of the information, AKA Bashar. The man on the radio can tell me what's going on in the street and I can trust that information as being true. Exactly-the-same-thing as channeling "if it is indeed real".

Now, do you finally understand?

a reply to: Unity_99

But everything he says which you feel resonates with you is just the same stuff that has been said for thousands of years from other cultures and religions. Nothing new. He read it all and has bee talking about it for 30 years. So what.

originally posted by: FlySolo


First, this isn't a thread titled "telepathy debunked" It's only about Anka.
Second, the omnipotent part is my bit. That's my sarcastic way of calling him a "know-it-all"
Third, since the conception of this thread I have struggled multiple times to say the same thing. I have used pretty much every word in my vocabulary and every analogy I can think of to explain why Anka is not channeling anyone.

Do you understand that this wee bit virtually invalidates your whole line. I mean really, sir. You misrepresent the whole thing through your sarcasm, and expect something reasonable in return?!?

No, you refuse to listen. Every time I say it, you or someone else comes along with something completely irrelevant and off topic. It's not my specifications. I'll say it again (401x now) Anka is getting information from beings who can see us without our knowledge. They admit to using our "coordinates" to pop in and out. So why can't they tell Anka something he can't possibly know? It's not just limited to language or a translator, in encompasses everything.

I'm sorry, but it appears to me as though YOU are the one who refuses to listen. What I see, as an experienced telepath, is you refusing to accept the idea and reality of telepathy on its terms, you seem to want to make it into something that YOU have specified, as opposed to nature.

I've seen your question, and even responded to it a few times, this time it seems a wee bit expanded.

This is effing insane man. Making me say it again. Either admit you don't know what I'm asking, don't understand English, or refuse to acknowledge I have a valid question.

Yes it is insane...although my refusal to acknowledge your question as valid is based in reality, not a fantasy. Telepathy is a strange thing to be sure, but, it has it's very own set of rules, properties, events, methods just like anything else that is real. It is high time that you stop your rhetoric, learn the reality of the situation, and went forward with more / better knowledge.

eta: It doesn't matter, telepathy, channeling, dreaming, watching tv or listening to the radio. It's the "source" of the information which is the crux of my argument. All those other things are just transmission mediums. You can explain how all of those things work as many times as you like but you're wasting my and your time. I don't care how a radio works when I'm interested in the SOURCE of the information, AKA Bashar. The man on the radio can tell me what's going on in the street and I can trust that information as being true. Exactly-the-same-thing as channeling "if it is indeed real".

Now, do you finally understand?

While it is true that the "crux" of all this is the source; you should also consider the "medium" in this sort of case. Without understanding the finer points of the transmission you can get an invalid impression of any of the "mediums" you mentioned...including radio. How are you to know if what you received has any validity if you don't understand "how" you got it?

As for the source: Bashar is completely consistent with telepathy...100% Even IF Daryl is perhaps a wee bit too much of a showman.

And, that, I feel, is the crux of your issue...the real crux; Daryl is too much of a showman, and has the temerity to actually have some "fun" with it.

a reply to: tanka418

Do you understand that this wee bit virtually invalidates your whole line. I mean really, sir. You misrepresent the whole thing through your sarcasm, and expect something reasonable in return?!?

Invalidates nothing. You should expect that tonality.

I'm sorry, but it appears to me as though YOU are the one who refuses to listen. What I see, as an experienced telepath, is you refusing to accept the idea and reality of telepathy on its terms, you seem to want to make it into something that YOU have specified, as opposed to nature.

I'm shaking my head as I read your post. You completely ignore a very sound and rational question. If you consider yourself an intelligent person, then you should pay attention to my question and stop avoiding it. I'm not specifying how I expect it to be, opposing nature, I'm stating a simple observation which you are unable/will not discuss. It has nothing to do with what I have specified. The fact is, your irrational mind has dominated your rational side when refusing to acknowledge my point.

.although my refusal to acknowledge your question as valid is based in reality, not a fantasy.

I don't understand this part. Are you saying my point is based on fantasy? Please clarify

Telepathy is a strange thing to be sure, but, it has it's very own set of rules, properties, events, methods just like anything else that is real. It is high time that you stop your rhetoric, learn the reality of the situation, and went forward with more / better knowledge.

Now you're just making excuses for something which you can't explain. Its effing simple dude. Stop playing dumb and denying your own intelligence. If the Esansi people can see us with holograms, then they can tell anka something he can't possible know.

I've seen your question, and even responded to it a few times, this time it seems a wee bit expanded.

Evolved would be a better word. My initial OP has evolved into the bare bones of what I originally tried to say.

As for the source: Bashar is completely consistent with telepathy...100% Even IF Daryl is perhaps a wee bit too much of a showman.

How could you possible know bashar is consistent 100% if you don't even know Bashar exists? holy #. And you call yourself an educated man?

And, that, I feel, is the crux of your issue...the real crux; Daryl is too much of a showman, and has the temerity to actually have some "fun" with it.

And there it is. Darryl is a showman! You said it and you probably don't even know what you said lol. Darryl IS the SHOWMAN. not Bashar.
FRAUD=HOAX=DefreakingBunked. Game over. Your subconscious betrayed you. You know as well as I do Darryl is acting, putting on a show. You meant to say Bashar is the showman but you said Darryl. A slip. I think you just don't ever like to be wrong about things and would rather defend lunacy than to admit someone else may be right. Your subconscious betrayed you man.

a reply to: FlySolo

Only some of it resonates with me. Not into anything that is akin to law of one. But it is a step out of the box here. And in general information which is more positive than not.

ET_MAN, minus the warnings and the codes, in his quantum spiritual Higher Self answers, resonated with me. And in fact, was a stepping stone, because once he started asking me questions, my Higher Self stepped in and I had months of downloads.

Sleeper, very similar guy, resonates with me, except have to put him into perspective and say, well he's militia, male energy and doesnt quite get equality, but he still understands goodness, helping others, and is really an eye opener. But I've shared similar types with alot less recall so feel the pull.