Bashar Telepathy DEBUNKED

originally posted by: kauskau
a reply to: FlySolo

what you call "new age crap"...concepts like:

reality is in your consciousness.

You didn't need to go any further than this wee point!

Modern Terrestrial science is busy finding support the this rather old concept.

And while I'll cause you minor harm IF you call me "new age"; most of the "new age" concepts predate human history...and are only a "re-hash" of old, tried-and-true, hermetic principals (I subscribe to the original teachings).

a reply to: kauskau

One day you will have a good laugh about yourself. When you realize that what you call "new age crap" was the biggest revelation for humanity....

Listen. I've have grown tired of you. Your incessant ramblings are akin to that of a a sweaty tooth madman waving a bible in the air. I have come to the conclusion I am dealing with someone who has no grasp of objective reasoning; including anyone who jumps to your defense. You are welcome to continue posting in this thread because I will never deny your freedom of speech. But do not preach to me. Ever! I will stop telling you that unicorns don't exist and you stop waving your copy of "the future is now" in my face.

Agreed?

a reply to: Unity_99

True. Love is our natural state of being as it is unconditional and so is consciousness.
We forgot that natural flow in a time in wich the mind got stronger and stronger until we identified totally with its symbols...(adamus/another channeler says we have lost the connection to "gnost"...the "light mind"...Its a mindstate which allows a zen like flow in which everything you need just comes to you. Bashar calls it: "knowing WHAT you need to know WHEN you need to know it. Not a second before, not a second later"...but we are in a mindset in which we think 99 percent bull# about yesterday, about tomorrow (which never comes the way we imagine) etc etc....



So How did you open the floodgates?

a reply to: tanka418

I would never call a fundamental truth "old"..
Its not a concept. Its truth. So you can not stop understanding it deeper and deeper.
Thats why i dont like when people say "these are all known concepts".

They dont even understand how deep the concept of "i AM THAT IAM is"....they just hear words...

They dont see the holographic nature of the sentence "IAM THAT IAM"..

There are infinite ways to explore this "old" concept...

a reply to: FlySolo

what you put out is what you get back

a reply to: kauskau

ditto

originally posted by: kauskau
a reply to: tanka418

I would never call a fundamental truth "old"..
Its not a concept. Its truth.

I'm sorry man; while I understand where you are coming from. I consider truths, concepts that have existed since the beginning of time, and have been proven over the short history of sentient life in the universe to be invariable law, or "truths" to be "OLD".

They are certainly not "new" even IF we may on occasion, during our meditations, discover new facets, and aspects to what we once considered "old hat". And, isn't that the beauty here? That these old truths can still hold new revelations?

a reply to: kauskau

Well being in the flow, or perfect timing. Synchronicity to others, but the way we reach that is through the gnosis or forming Christ/Higher Self within, and this is not a religious thing, just borrowing from those well known terms, or as another more Tao friend would say, staring into the water and calming it until we can see a perfect reflection of self. We're supposed to overcome base lower body suit problems here and also any flaws in spirit, achieve Love and Peace and compassion, and awareness, trying to turn things around, grow abilities. In that state, we connect more to our larger spirit and the flood gates open more and we bring in the Good basically. And Perfect Timing.

Meditation is a key element to parting the red sea within us and drowning out the warriors and reactions within, ie the pharoah's army.

And as we do this, we become more psi, telepathic, clairovayant, possibly graced with healing, etc.

Being physically fit and in the peak of health is a really old concept too, but unless you exercise it you won't get any benefit of it and really won't even understand what it really means.

originally posted by: BridgebyaFountain
Being physically fit and in the peak of health is a really old concept too, but unless you exercise it you won't get any benefit of it and really won't even understand what it really means.

Ah, but you can see and touch an athlete and see what he does and see the results of what he does. An imaginary "alien" with old and known philosophies repackaged by a scam artist, not so much.

originally posted by: NavyDoc
Ah, but you can see and touch an athlete and see what he does and see the results of what he does. An imaginary "alien" with old and known philosophies repackaged by a scam artist, not so much.

I was referring to old philosophical and spiritual concepts, like what FlySolo and Kauskau are talking about above. These are things that someone doesn't make use of just by hearing them once or twice. They have to be integrated into the worldview to get real use out of them.

But about not being able to see and touch certain things, you have a point there that I won't dispute. You also can't see and touch the changes that happen in someone's life when they study certain philosophies, that aren't as common here in the Western Hemisphere as they are in the Far East. You can see a monk or a martial arts master sitting quietly in a meditative pose in Japan, but you can't see or touch what's going on inside their mind and body. But if you could sense it somehow, and directly experience yourself, the contrast to how you normally think and feel about the world could be very shocking.


It can be shocking precisely because, you can see an athlete or someone with a healthy body, and so you can be familiar with that. But you can't get such an idea of someone who has radically altered their way of thinking and feeling inside their body. Even if someone sees a healthy person who is very fit, they can understand this intellectually but they may not know how good it actually feels to be healthy. But it's hard to even intellectually grasp something that can't even be seen.

originally posted by: NavyDoc
Ah, but you can see and touch an athlete and see what he does and see the results of what he does. An imaginary "alien" with old and known philosophies repackaged by a scam artist, not so much.

Wow; tried and convicted. Wait! I didn't see a constitutional court anywhere, so how is this?

Seriously bad form man.

Very nearly this whole argument can be resolved with the question: "Des Bashar actually exist." I'm presuming many are wanting him to be a figment of Darryl's imagination...it would certainly be convenient.

This morning I asked y'all to check out Gematria...using my ESP, I can see that y'all didn't...oh well.

BASHAR

The word "BShr " mean "to tell glad tidings" in ancient Hebrew. The word also adds up to a numerical value of 502.

Or 504 if we include the vowels; which is "drsh": "Sought for"

And, NO this is NOT numerology!

Continuing...

What we get from this is that Bashar has glad tidings that are sought for. Now...IF I am not mistaken this is actually true, as would be the question of his existence.

If we inspect other aspects of Bashar we find that the "images" evoked, do in fact match the reality of the experience.

I was going to quote one of mu favorite things from an old master; but I'll just paraphrase.

The adversary does not know how to "clothe" his symbols in harmony. Thus when we see this harmony, truth is present.

For those who can see this harmony, even in Bashar; know that truth is present.

For you skeptics; You will never reach a resolution on this subject. Primarily because you have attempted to "force fit" reality to our narrowed view, but also because, on a far deeper level, even you recognize the truth here.

And, to you skeptics; Thanks...I wasn't going to support Bashar like this, While I never doubted his existence, I still have issues with his practice. But, I just can't tolerate those who would try to suppress truth.

So, there you have it; Bashar is as real as your very own foot. And from what this real world telepath can see; his method of communication is spot on...would seem that Darryl is about as good as I...

Darryl and I could have such wonderful silent conversations...

a reply to: tanka418

so: can you teach anything of your skills. Or did you learn it somewhere. Was it a natural gift?

I am learning right now to let synchronicity work for me and i am getting better in it the more i learn to let go..

But telapathy for me only is possible when i am in a deep state of love with someone...

originally posted by: kauskau
a reply to: tanka418

so: can you teach anything of your skills. Or did you learn it somewhere. Was it a natural gift?

I am learning right now to let synchronicity work for me and i am getting better in it the more i learn to let go..

But telapathy for me only is possible when i am in a deep state of love with someone...

Will try...

Firstly, telepathy is a natural ability of every living creature, so ever. The level of usefulness of course widely variable. In Terrestrial Humans it seems that this ability is relatively strong in infancy, but fades as the child grows and develops. Part of the reason for this is the development of critical thinking and logic...these tend to actually get in the way sometimes. Another reason for the early "shut-down" of telepathy is the "noise" level. At first the child has no ability to control the telepathic noise, though it seems that the (shall we say) "strong-attachment filter" becomes active very early; filtering for Mother and family. The logic ad critical thinking tend to prevent the reactivation of these skills, and thus the go dormant.

Re-activating these skills is more a matter of "paying attention" that virtually anything else, with the possible exception of "practice".

I'm sure many have noticed, fro tie to tie, that they have the exact same thought as a friend participating in a conversation...just before the friend said it. This is a primitive form of telepathy.

You should also notice that telepathy works best with those you are close to, the closer the better...

Here is how to learn...Pay attention
Pay attention to every thought, observe its origin, its meaning.
Attempt to "connect" with those you would communicate with...One of y strengths in the learning of telepathy is that I'm also an "Empath" (sometimes a bit of a pain n the arse, too), This empathic connection allows me to ore easily connect.
Arrange for someone to practice with...if you can...

Practice, practice, practice.

PITFALLS
And, OH BOY are there plenty. The biggest one on the list is you. Your imagination, your prejudices, your memories, likes, dislikes. Your Ego, Your philosophy...just about everything.

Just about everything...will color, or attempt to color your interpretations. Telepathic communication occurs on a sub-conscious level and must be interpreted by your consciousness before it can become useful...this coloring (as I call it) corrupts the original data. So One must find a way to learn how to detect and correct these errors.

I've been actively working on learning Telepathy for about 7 years now...I can on frequent occasion, understand another's thoughts well enough to respond appropriately (in a more verbal / physical sense), and can certainly understand them.

One of my recent experiences was an early morning conversation with a man who said he was the commander of a starship in Earth orbit. By way of evidence of his reality he predicted a solar flare for later that day.

Some 2 - 3 hours later a solar flare became visible on Soho and continued to grow throughout the day.

I've noticed that telepathy is better done between relatives and people who are close emotionally. I've thought sometimes that perhaps Empathy and telepathy are closely related, perhaps one and the same...would explain a few things.

originally posted by: kauskau
a reply to: tanka418

so: can you teach anything of your skills. Or did you learn it somewhere. Was it a natural gift?

I am learning right now to let synchronicity work for me and i am getting better in it the more i learn to let go..

But telapathy for me only is possible when i am in a deep state of love with someone...

Conkur.

Deep love stirs from within. Boy love or grrl love, it makes no difference. I was most telepathic with my lover Darryl Forests aka Shen1987.

Miss him.

Arouet
RIP Darryl Forest aka Shen1987

nvm

a reply to: kauskau

Last time you post this crap in my thread. I removed my previous comment because sometimes it's just not worth it but this time I have to say it. Stop using my effing thread to peddle your idol garbage.You have already been told not to spam ATS anymore with Bashar so I'll be damned if I let you spam here. Delete the last one or I'll send an alert.

Thank-you for your cooperation.

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: kauskau

Last time you post this crap in my thread. I removed my previous comment because sometimes it's just not worth it but this time I have to say it. Stop using my effing thread to peddle your idol garbage.You have already been told not to spam ATS anymore with Bashar so I'll be damned if I let you spam here. Delete the last one or I'll send an alert.

Thank-you for your cooperation.

The brainwashed have to brainwash.


I now give you Jim Jones: