A Terrorist That You'll never admit

reply to post by Hefficide

Are you implying that the US is the only country with dirty hands? Or the inverse?

The US is the country with the most dirtiest hands. No one is denying other countries involvement, but why is there this sentiment? Because the USA is on its imperialistic Zionist and banker fueled rage. Kinda like a person high on PCP and crack who goes around killing people. If we were having this conversation 60 years ago I would be saying the same thing about Nazi Germany bombing Poland and killing the Jews. But this is 2012 and the USA is bombing middle eastern countries and killing Muslims (albeit not in its borders, but the discrimination is similiar to what jews faced during the holocaust)

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Umm, nice try, but there is a major difference between being a leading arms exporter, and covertly and intentionally funding insurgencies to topple governments through mass propaganda campaigns, black budget operations, spies all over the place, and worse.

No need to drag Iran into this....

Wonder where that 50,000 rockets aimed south of Lebannon came from?

Wasn't the US.

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PressTV Photoshop

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


I haven't disagreed with any aspect of that anywhere in this or any other thread. There is a reason I specifically mentioned China.

Debt can buy a lot of war by proxy. That's how I see it.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by Hefficide

 

Are you implying that the US is the only country with dirty hands? Or the inverse?

The US is the country with the most dirtiest hands. No one is denying other countries involvement, but why is there this sentiment? Because the USA is on its imperialistic Zionist and banker fueled rage. Kinda like a person high on PCP and crack who goes around killing people. If we were having this conversation 60 years ago I would be saying the same thing about Nazi Germany bombing Poland and killing the Jews. But this is 2012 and the USA is bombing middle eastern countries and killing Muslims (albeit not in its borders, but the discrimination is similiar to what jews faced during the holocaust)

edit on 083131p://8America/ChicagoFri, 17 Aug 2012 20:32:34 -0500 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)

You know that sounded just like Hitler blaming all the german's problems on the rich evil jewish bankers quick to arms rid the world of America it will be such a nice place.

That BF2 "skill" is sure to be helpful.

reply to post by Hefficide


I did not mention China because China has not been bombing countries halfway across the world to kingdom come and setting up bases there. When China starts doing that, I will be just as critical of them.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


No, China just funds the US - almost exclusively currently.

I'll make it simple - get a map and draw a line from the oil to China... then start looking at the countries the line goes through. Then pick up a newspaper and see just who the US is currently irked with. Quite a coincidence.

But if it's easier to simply blame the bullet and not the finger that pulled it.... Well...

~Heff

Originally posted by neo96

Originally posted by ArtooDetoo

Originally posted by neo96
Yeah America has been at war but some people love to leave out the fact who came running to the US to save them, and who dragged us in to them.

And while we are on the subject just how many other countries in the world were fighting right there along side of the US?

Forget the fascists nazis not once but twice,or communism, or the brutual terrorist dicators of the middle east that so many just love to defend as peacenicks.

Afghans fought with USA against the so called "commies", look what happened with them. On other hand, we have one of the biggest allies of USA, Saudi Arabia, sponsoring all kinds of terrorism/extreme Islam yet no one mentions them? I wonder why. And please, dont hate the people of a country, hate their governments.

edit on 17-8-2012 by ArtooDetoo because: (no reason given)

So lets be clear America is responsible for what other people do how about taking a page from ATS Terms and conditions.

We are responsible for our own posts meaning actions not Saudi by that so called "logic" that means Iran the largest middle eastern sponsor of terrorism is responsbile.

And to be perfectly clear Don't really give a crap about other peoples opinions of America opinions are like door knobs every has got one, and has as much value to me as toejam.

First off (sorry Springer, but all quotes needed)
Slayer, I have seen quite graphically, many years ago on British television, an Afghan rocket, or anti tank device attack on a Russian column, and hitting either a tank or a armoured personnel carrier, plus other vehicles behind, disabling that vehicle and the survivors clambering out. The survivors put up their hands as they clambered out, and stood in front of their vehicles, without opposition. They were all shot dead. The Afghans were American military co-operatives at the time, while it was also quite clear that American military at least, knew that the Afghans took no prisoners. So you want to talk about T&C?

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by Hefficide

 

I did not mention China because China has not been bombing countries halfway across the world to kingdom come and setting up bases there. When China starts doing that, I will be just as critical of them.

Pay no attention to the 90s and tanks on their streets and the support of the billions that have been murdered by that most famous 1 child policy. or the Tibet massacres, or their imperialist claims to Japanese islands in the South Pacific.

China is just so wonderful.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by Hefficide

 

Are you implying that the US is the only country with dirty hands? Or the inverse?

The US is the country with the most dirtiest hands. No one is denying other countries involvement, but why is there this sentiment? Because the USA is on its imperialistic Zionist and banker fueled rage. Kinda like a person high on PCP and crack who goes around killing people. If we were having this conversation 60 years ago I would be saying the same thing about Nazi Germany bombing Poland and killing the Jews. But this is 2012 and the USA is bombing middle eastern countries and killing Muslims (albeit not in its borders, but the discrimination is similiar to what jews faced during the holocaust)

edit on 083131p://8America/ChicagoFri, 17 Aug 2012 20:32:34 -0500 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)

You really poured it on with that one. How can you equate the United States involvement in the Middle East to Nazi Germany during World War II? No comparison. None! I cannot recall entire cities being decimated for nothing more than sheer hatred for the opposing side.

Nazi Germany did a heck of a lot of that in the Soviet Union. Moreover, I cannot recall insurgents being shipped away to private death camps or being strung up in the streets as a reminder to the local populace to obey. Nazi Germany did a heck of a lot of that during WWII. With all due respect, I think you should crack open a history book to realize the stark differences between the current conflicts engaged by the United States, and the war record of Nazi Germany during the Second World War. Just saying . . .

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Mmmmm.

Every star represents a US military base. But remember, it is Iran that is threatening the US, got it?

Originally posted by smurfy

Originally posted by neo96

Originally posted by ArtooDetoo

Originally posted by neo96
Yeah America has been at war but some people love to leave out the fact who came running to the US to save them, and who dragged us in to them.

And while we are on the subject just how many other countries in the world were fighting right there along side of the US?

Forget the fascists nazis not once but twice,or communism, or the brutual terrorist dicators of the middle east that so many just love to defend as peacenicks.

Afghans fought with USA against the so called "commies", look what happened with them. On other hand, we have one of the biggest allies of USA, Saudi Arabia, sponsoring all kinds of terrorism/extreme Islam yet no one mentions them? I wonder why. And please, dont hate the people of a country, hate their governments.

edit on 17-8-2012 by ArtooDetoo because: (no reason given)

So lets be clear America is responsible for what other people do how about taking a page from ATS Terms and conditions.

We are responsible for our own posts meaning actions not Saudi by that so called "logic" that means Iran the largest middle eastern sponsor of terrorism is responsbile.

And to be perfectly clear Don't really give a crap about other peoples opinions of America opinions are like door knobs every has got one, and has as much value to me as toejam.

First off (sorry Springer, but all quotes needed)
Slayer, I have seen quite graphically, many years ago on British television, an Afghan rocket, or anti tank device attack on a Russian column, and hitting either a tank or a armoured personnel carrier, plus other vehicles behind, disabling that vehicle and the survivors clambering out. The survivors put up their hands as they clambered out, and stood in front of their vehicles, without opposition. They were all shot dead. The Afghans were American military co-operatives at the time, while it was also quite clear that American military at least, knew that the Afghans took no prisoners. So you want to talk about T&C?

First off name is not Slayer there is only one of him.

Yeah ignoring the Russian atrocities against the Afghan people?

And to reitterate there were other countries behind the Afghanistan fighters still singling out 1 country is crap.

reply to post by neo96


No one is saying China is an angel, but they are not bombing other countries as voraciously as the USA or setting up its military empire across the seas. Japan is close to china so I do not see a reason why there would not be any regional disputes.

No buts let not admit the USA is the biggest terrorist, and lets deflect the question to 'talk about china' ..

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by neo96

 

No one is saying China is an angel, but they are not bombing other countries as voraciously as the USA or setting up its military empire across the seas. Japan is close to china so I do not see a reason why there would not be any regional disputes.

No buts let not admit the USA is the biggest terrorist, and lets deflect the question to 'talk about china' ..

Say it a thousand times
Say it a million times

Believe all you want.

Your right from that America the terrorist.

Thanks and God Bless America and if people hate this country so much don't let the door hit them in the bum on the way out.

What no?

Don't wanna leave?

That's right.

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AND the majority of those countries are Islamic and many of those have asked the US to take Iran out repeatedly. Meanwhile so far, Clinton, Bush and Now Obama have refused to do so...




So Meh.....

Originally posted by neo96

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Umm, nice try, but there is a major difference between being a leading arms exporter, and covertly and intentionally funding insurgencies to topple governments through mass propaganda campaigns, black budget operations, spies all over the place, and worse.

No need to drag Iran into this....

Wonder where that 50,000 rockets aimed south of Lebannon came from?

Wasn't the US.

I wonder where millions of cluster bombs into Lebanon came from?

It was from the Israelis who purchased them off the USA, who knows maybe they got them for free.

reply to post by Jakes51

You really poured it on with that one. How can you equate the United States involvement in the Middle East to Nazi Germany during World War II? No comparison. None! I cannot recall entire cities being decimated for nothing more than sheer hatred for the opposing side.

Suck it up, the truth hurts dude. What did we do in Iraq in 1991 with the help of about 30 other countries?

Iraq 1991:


Libya 2011:

None! I cannot recall entire cities being decimated for nothing more than sheer hatred for the opposing side.

If those pictures are not hatred, then they must be love for war and death and destruction which is even worse.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


There is no deflection in talking about China. Again, go through all of my posts here and see where I've waved the flag and said America is beyond reproach. I'm nothing if not honest. I know the sins of my country. The difference with me is that I'm also strong enough to face them down, analyze them, see them for what they are, and to seek to change them so that my children will live in a better world.

It's much better than just casting stones.

China and the US are inseparable regarding world politics now. One power, two hemispheres, total control. Empire.

All the dots connect. How is doing exactly what ATS is meant for - connecting the dots - deflection?

~Heff

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


Oh and for the record, I love the United States. I love the people of the United States. I just happen to disagree with much of what this nation has done over the past thirty or forty years. Make no mistake. I would die protecting the people of this land from any threat.

This is where I lose my "liberal" support - but it's who I am.

~Heff

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