A Terrorist That You'll never admit

i never used to give a xxxx about any of this stuff BUT all that changed after 9-11 as i have stated many many many TIMES before it appeared on the tv here at 9.30 ish AM think about that one for a minute and before you start calling me 1 an idiot 2 a fool thats 4.30 am in new york at the moment i am recording the MANY people that i meet on a daily basis who remember this time but are too stupid to think about the time difference between the two countrys only about 1;5 million have died because of this lie strange that thread got shut eh .these wars are about drugs & americas still owned by the queen you should read up on the black nobilaty & all will become clear

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by buster2010

 

LOL We used to salute that way in America also. We called it the Bellamy salute.

We used to strap explosives to our chest and walk into a crowded bus station in a neighboring country that we disagreed with religiously and blow the hell out of their women and children too!!!!

Oh…wait….that was Iran and Syria!

My bad!

No we drop them from the sky by the thousands of tons to kill a lot more women and children...oh wait that was USA and NATO.

Had they not used civilians, women and children as human sheilds there would have been a lot less dropped or gave a stand up fight.

But then agian the only country in the world who will give someone a stand up fight is the "terrorist USA" while they hide behind their women and children.

Historical context from WW2 to Korea,to Vietnam Iraq and Afghanistan modern weapons saved millions but hey who cares.

Bash America!

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL




OK Fair enough

Now where were we?

Oh yeah..

The Evil Warmongering terrorist American Empire....

reply to post by Hefficide

THIS is the difference. This is what separates terrorism and war... one is cowardice and from behind, with no warning - the other is at least announced.

Did we announce a bomb dropping on the innocent women and children?

www.prayn4peace.org...

Declaration of war means nothing. The USA has not declared war on Pakistan yet they are droning them left and right. Secondly bin Laden and company did declare war with the USA a long time before 911 happened, so technically according to your definition 911 was an armed conflict.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


It's the North American way.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


So the premise of your argument is that circumstances are irrelevant and that only your personal, emotion based observations apply?

You seem to want to have it both ways... America is a terror organization whether they declare war or not - but people who fly airplanes into buildings are justified, without equivocation, simply because of the target they chose?

So now we know.

reply to post by Hefficide

So the premise of your argument is that circumstances are irrelevant and that only your personal, emotion based observations apply?

Negative

You seem to want to have it both ways... America is a terror organization whether they declare war or not -

Those 'wars' that america has recently declared, iraq, Afghanistan, libya etc are illegal and therefore wrong and are really acts of terrorism.

but people who fly airplanes into buildings are justified, without equivocation, simply because of the target they chose?

No I did not say that. You have to go to this thread to understand why they did what they did:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

Yes, my fav thig on it was the AIM-54 phoenix...but we digress..

Actually, both of you digress on occasion, as small penis syndrome is rampant amongst ATS's Top Tier...

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


So hold an international law license?

Or just opinion?

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

It's the North American way.

Says the guy from Canada.
The most Northern Country in North America. Yet, He has not posted ANY Anti Canadian threads yet. [That I'm aware of] exposing THEIR participation in all the fun and games.

eh?

reply to post by facelift


Says the guy with a child's avatar

Freudian slip?

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL

Those 'wars' that america has recently declared, iraq, Afghanistan, libya etc are illegal and therefore wrong and are really acts of terrorism.

I don't morally agree with Iraq, Afghanistan, or any impending showdowns with Iran or Pakistan. But Congress has the power to declare war - and the Executive has enumerated powers in this regard as well. So you cannot call these conflicts illegal. Immoral? Fine. Unethical? Great. But not illegal.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL

No I did not say that. You have to go to this thread to understand why they did what they did:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I moderated the 911 forum. I'm woefully familiar with the ins and outs of every theory and every rabbit hole there is.

Again, I am not a flag waving cheerleader for the US - but if you wish to call collateral damage from conflict an act of terror and then to not refer to an actual act of terror as such... Well I simply disagree.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by facelift

 

Says the guy with a child's avatar

Freudian slip?

Absolutely...


I'm good for 2 or 3 of those a month...

reply to post by Hefficide

I moderated the 911 forum. I'm woefully familiar with the ins and outs of every theory and every rabbit hole there is.

Again, I am not a flag waving cheerleader for the US - but if you wish to call collateral damage from conflict an act of terror and then to not refer to an actual act of terror as such... Well I simply disagree.

I do call 911 a terrorist action, but by YOUR definition it is an armed conflict because Bin Laden and company declared war on the USA prior to 911. Secondly I equally call US actions terrorist regardless of the declaration of war because they have used force, intimidation, and murder to achieve their means. Feel free to check out my thread so you may better understand the truth view point

reply to post by Hefficide


if you did the 9-11 forums heff read my comments at the top the 1 about the time ? heard that before its my party piece

1) That reverend by definition is a "terrorist".
2) The US does engage in terrorist activities on a daily basis.
3) The picture of America's war history is anti-American propaganda. Many of those wars were on behalf of allies or for our sovereignty (namely the early wars).
4) To the early posters who were "brought to tears" by the video...what planet are you from where you thought these things didn't happen?

I've more to say but in the end it doesn't matter. This topic just reinforces already made opinions.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by Hefficide

 

I moderated the 911 forum. I'm woefully familiar with the ins and outs of every theory and every rabbit hole there is.

Again, I am not a flag waving cheerleader for the US - but if you wish to call collateral damage from conflict an act of terror and then to not refer to an actual act of terror as such... Well I simply disagree.

I do call 911 a terrorist action, but by YOUR definition it is an armed conflict because Bin Laden and company declared war on the USA prior to 911. Secondly I equally call US actions terrorist regardless of the declaration of war because they have used force, intimidation, and murder to achieve their means. Feel free to check out my thread so you may better understand the truth view point

edit on 103131p://8America/ChicagoFri, 17 Aug 2012 22:25:21 -0500 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)

The only flaw in that argument is there is no real international legal defintion of "terrorism" everyone has a different meaning.

So personal opinions of US actions abroad are meaningless.

reply to post by neo96

So personal opinions of US actions abroad are meaningless.

The US is responsible for its own actions and any repercussions that it may draw from them in the form of blowback as some on ATS here would say

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changed mind

Originally posted by TheLegend
1) That reverend by definition is a "terrorist".
2) The US does engage in terrorist activities on a daily basis.
3) The picture of America's war history is anti-American propaganda. Many of those wars were on behalf of allies or for our sovereignty (namely the early wars).
4) To the early posters who were "brought to tears" by the video...what planet do you live on where you thought these things didn't happen before and you just now learned of it?
I've more to say but in the end it doesn't matter. This topic has little purpose other than reinforcing already made opinions.

I don't think many here who are aware of world history would disagree with that supposition the problem many have [Myself included] is the myopic single sided presentation and lack of facts.

It often takes two to tango and the US seldom dances alone either with Allies or foes.

They should Consider the obvious next time

Either that or open some real unbiased history books of their choice