U.S. Women and the Princess syndrome

reply to post by votan

Women as they get older become less attractive and they become bitter . Men get better as they get older.

Oh come on lol...bitterness is a condition that effects both men and women equally. Same as does "get better" with age.

My x always complained (a man) and was never satisfied.
Example: he left 2 dishes in the sink (his) and when I came home from work and ignored them, he literally took me (a female) to see what was in the sink and demanded that I deal with it. Now I, didn't see those two dishes as a priority compared to my need to relax after work. At the same token he apparently saw those dishes as more important than his wife's needs. I say it is a matter of a reasonable mind not gender. I say we can reverse the sexes in this scenario and it would still apply to whatever gender being unreasonable.
Well, as the marriage eventually and predictably dissolved, my x is still vexed with his own unreasonable and demanding nature that apparently can never be satisfied, so he appears to be bitter 5 years later. Instead of seeing the problem is within himself, blaming those who will not conform to his needs (Creates a bitterness). Needless to say, a sad condition to be in. On the other hand yes, I am older but, I think my healthy mind does not elicit unwarranted strain/stress on myself or others, and may contribute to my physical appearance as well. I see advantages to my age even though I am female.

My point here is that this is a "condition of the mind" not gender in my opinion. Either gender can have an attitude that effects their quality of life how they age i.e. "bitter or better". So, it is not one gender that improves with age but the presence of mind, that facilitates the ability to age better.

reply to post by nightbringr

You complain women only want "steroid, Jersey Shore boys", but they dont.

Then you really have to ask yourself why it is still on the air, don't you?

Oh yeah. I agree with this.

Luckily I have an awesome wife who plays video games and is a realist.
She never bought in to the Disney princess fantasy and actually despises Disney for teaching little girls that in life you're supposed to meet your prince charming and live happily ever after. That and the whole happiest place on earth is also one of the most expensive places on earth thing.

Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by dominicus

 

These are the words of an insecure man who is too weak to put in the effort to improve himself to find a good woman.

Really, thats what it is, isnt it? You complain women only want "steroid, Jersey Shore boys", but they dont. They may want a fling with that guy, but the one they will marry will be a man who can provide and love. I suspect you cant do either, especially provide.

And while yes, there are princesses out there, there always has been. If thats not what you want, there are many, many other girls out there. Not all of them princesses. But really, if ALL girls are princesses as you say they are, wont some of them, say, the ugly ones eventually have to lower their standards? After all, they cant ALL land steroid junkies. Maybe one of those will lower their standards and go out with you?

Yeah, and honestly? Mail order bride? You truely have outted yourself as someone who is hopeless when it comes to finding women.

edit on 15-8-2012 by nightbringr because: (no reason given)

I think you may have to be a 'provider' in order to qualify for the reception of a mail-order bride.

reply to post by Echo3Foxtrot


Yeah, when I examine the type of wedding demands or requests made by brides I am seeing some signs of subtle brainwashing.

Originally posted by Echo3Foxtrot
Oh yeah. I agree with this.

Luckily I have an awesome wife who plays video games and is a realist.
She never bought in to the Disney princess fantasy and actually despises Disney for teaching little girls that in life you're supposed to meet your prince charming and live happily ever after. That and the whole happiest place on earth is also one of the most expensive places on earth thing.

Yeah! Damn Disney for teaching girls they might find someone wonderful and actually fall in love.

Do you even realize what you just said?

Just yesterday I posted this very same thing on Facebook. I basically stated that I'm so tired of being a "gentleman" to women who feel they are "entitled" and lack all sense of decency and respect for others. I said, "Good Morning" to a girl on the elevator and she rolled her eyes and looked straight ahead. When I posted this on Facebook with my rant, if you will, I received over 30 responses all from my male friends who ALL agreed with me that women nowadays have a feeling of entitlement; the princess mentality, and don't know how to respect men AT ALL.. I'm not saying women should bow down, but for God's sake just be friendly...

Ah...The princess syndrome. Don't let this act fool you. Unfortunately evolution has not caught up to how women respond to men. Think of the caveman days and just go with it. I have met many women through the years and almost everyone of them are the same and don't believe the ones who say "That jerk crap act wouldn't work on me!" hmmm....Really.

I don't believe in the princess syndrome only for the fact that if you look at women and not worship the ground that they stand on, not only do you see results in their attraction for you but it almost feels like you discovered some secret loophole that mother nature left for men to discover for those that take action. I have even defeated the so called friend zone a handful of times after placing myself there un-purposely just to see if it was possible to change the way they feel about me. It was logically easy. women are based of emotions and not logic. Only the nice guy complains about the princess syndrome. Women crave attention like its a drug. take that away and watch them do anything to get that drug back. The last girl that I put myself in the friend zone to show my friends as a tutorial...fell for my trap. I showered her with attention fully knowing that I was going to get nowhere by telling her how pretty she was, also doing things for her and calling her quite a bit. Then after about 2 weeks, I cut her off. I stopped calling which became a Mystery to her. So then she proceeded to call me and wonder why I hadn't called her, I then interrupted her with "can I call you back i'm talking to(one of her friends...) then I hung up on her. I never called her back. Then that night at a party, I proceeded to have fun with her friends and pretended like she didn't exist. Then she finally came up to me and said "thanks for calling me back" and I just shrugged. I could go into the conversation and tactics but in the end she ended up pursuing me, hence defeating once again the friendzone.

I'm not a jerk but I understand female thinking and If nature won't throw me a woman that responds through kindness, etc. Then of course, I can adapt and be like a jerk even though I am not one. There are so many tactics that women fall for, it's not even funny.

This is because there is a lack of discipline in our society. Shows like Jersey Shore only encourage this behaviour because it makes it seem okay. I see a lot of this at my school.

Actually, an 8 year old girl at a party tried to fight me when I tried to tell her she didn't physically have balls when she was bragging about "having the balls to kick someone at her school in the head." This girl said to me she had already had a boyfriend who gave her a ring but also cheated on her. She was the "other girl."

This girl was 8. She was also hanging on my boyfriend the entire time. I brought her behaviour up with her mom (in a concerned way. Her neice, who is 20, was also talking to her about it because it was a concern) and was infuriated how her mom didn't want to discipline her. She explained how her daughter hangs all over gown men while wearing skirts and is acting all "ghetto" (her words). But she didn't discipline her. She told me her 8 year old little girl was hanging on GROWN MEN and she wasn't telling her to stop it. Some men the mom barely knew.

So this princes syndrome you speak of? It's all because of a lack of discipline. When I was 8, if I were to climb on a grown man while wearing a skirt, my mom would have smacked me and told me what he could have done to me and how dangerous it could possibly be. That would be enough to set me straight.

Parents aren't parenting anymore so it leaves a gap open for different role models. Girls want to be Snooki now and date JWOW. When I was 8, I wanted to be a witch married to David Bowie. Still do and I'm 17 now. I can't believe the kids now and how quickly they changed. Almost over night.

Originally posted by jonnyblond35
I'm not a jerk but I understand female thinking and If nature won't throw me a woman that responds through kindness, etc. Then of course, I can adapt and be like a jerk even though I am not one. There are so many tactics that women fall for, it's not even funny.

This seems pretty jerky to me. I think you understand an immature girl's thinking because if you pulled this crap on me, you would be single and probably in pain.

You were actually bragging to your chums about taking advantage of girls. That's really jerky and my mom warned me about guys like you.

You are actually describing behaviour of the guys infected with Princess Syndrome.

reply to post by jonnyblond35


Soooo.... using women's emotions and instincts to manipulate them into sex, then?

Originally posted by maus80
reply to post by Brown Bear

 

Just imagine what they'll do to their children, you say. Ever heard of Casey Anthony? Enough said...

That's why they shouldn't have children ... but they do.

Even those who aren't violent or physically abusive (some are not) they still make -- The. Worst. Parents. Ever.

In my detailed post 'From a psychological pathological standpoint' (Pg 3 - last post) they use children as tools or pawns. They also turn their children into miniature versions of themselves. All the way around they are real bad news. At some point down the road, they use the children to break up relationships and families or create estrangements. They use the children to get information, to make themselves shine and to pit family members against each other. It's horrible. Co-parenting with one of these people is like a cancer that keeps returning -- a life sentence ... with the innocent, impressionable children in the middle of the mess.

TO THE GRANDPARENTS/IN-LAWS: "You can't see your grandkids if you don't _________."
If his parents can't see their own grandchildren, then they're all over their son and it damages the parent adult-son relationship. It's heartbreaking. I've seen this scenario play out way too many times.

TO THE EX-SPOUSE: "If you want to see your child, you have to do this and that AND I need more money."
It never ends -- a life sentence.

They have children to keep the co-parent tied and connected to them - forever ... especially if he has lot of money and a good job or he comes from a well-to-do family. They use the children to control you -- and it works!

My advice: make sure you know who you are bedding down with -- even if it's protected sex -- don't go there.

'Entitlement Princesses' are known to trick men into pregnancy/having a child, and from the above-mentioned, I'm sure you can see why.

They get a lot worse with age ... not better. Therapy is a game to them and it does not work. It just drains you of your hard-earned money and emotional energy. They are not worth the risk.

Ever traveled much abroad? Ever traveled much abroad AND studied the local culture / people / habits? (Not just visiting attractions and tourist places). There is a GLOBAL CULTure that emphasizes the traits which you do not want. Good for business, appeals to people's PRIDE. Do you FEEL SPECIAL?

Agree with others, stay out of big cities and you will have more luck. But, that in itself is by no means a magic answer -- as the GLOBAL CULT has tentacles everywhere.

Depending on the country you may find this "syndrome" / behavior...even worse. (I've been to 70+ countries, and just finished living in another one for 5 years) And if isn't this particular behavior you are trying to avoid -- there might be something else that is equally if not more annoying over time. Once the "honeymoon phase" is over.

And besides, you take a girl out of her home culture and put her in your culture -- guess what is going to happen?

Maybe learning more about yourself first, will eventually bring you to someone closer to your ideal.

Or maybe it's just this: Hehehhehehh

BBC NEWS | Health | Sex chemistry 'lasts two years' - news.bbc.co.uk...

..and the frustration that follows as we try to prolong this....

If every man's home is his castle, wouldn't that make every daughter a princess? Not referring to the OP specifically, but it seems like the same people who would push the kind of Amurikan mantra that every man's home is his castle, are the same people who get upset when the offspring of "the king" acts entitled.

reply to post by jonnyblond35


You actually know what your talking about.

The thing men dont understand is that women who are a 9 or 10 on a 1-10 scale are used to men throwing themselves at them all day long. They stare, hit on them, proposition them all day, every day. While many men believe this must be a good thing for them, it obviously gets to be a bit much. So, when as someone mentioned earlier you say "Hi" to them on an elevator and they roll their eyes, its not you thats the problem, its that your the 20th person already today to do that to them. It becomes a defense mechanism.

So whats the best way to deal with women who are a 10 and you are a 7? Because of course unless your a 10 yourself (be honest), you wont catch their eye without a little work. So, you politely ignore them. See a 10 in the bar you want to approach? Dont, approach her homely friend. Strike up a conversation, have a great time and appear like you have no interest at all in the 10. This will drive her crazy, after all, SHE is the one who is used to getting all the attention, there MUST be something special about you.

Work with a foxy 10 youve always wanted to get with? Again, politely ignore her. Be confident, dont be afraid to talk to her, but never compliment her on her looks or steal glances at her she might see. This again will drive her nuts. Why arent you paying attention to her? Your confident, seem to know what you want, yet its not her! Astounding! Let her curiousity build, then one day, matter of factly in the most confident manner possible ask her out for dinner.

This does not mean these 10s are princesses. It simply means they are used to weak, pushover men waiting on them hand and foot, desperately hoping for an opening, all the while they show how desperate they are. You accentuate the problem and in a way create it.

Aim lower or learn how to deal with gorgeous women.

reply to post by crackerjack


Thats been going on a long time in China. Ever read the book/soap opera Dreams of the Red Chamber? Its an excellent read into the culture of chinas high society in the late ching dynasty. It has been considered one of the first examples of a soap opera. It was a ongoing novel published weekly in local newspapers around china following the lives of one rich family (kinda like the TV show Dallas) It became hugely popular. Want to understand the princess and prices aspect of modern chinese culture. Read that book. It's all in there and the book is from the early 1900's i think.

I remember telling my daughters, "If you want to be treated like a princess you better act like one.".
I was of course referring to the more noble qualities of kindness, grace and humility.

Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by jonnyblond35

 

Work with a foxy 10 youve always wanted to get with? Again, politely ignore her. Be confident, dont be afraid to talk to her, but never compliment her on her looks or steal glances at her she might see. This again will drive her nuts. Why arent you paying attention to her? Your confident, seem to know what you want, yet its not her! Astounding! Let her curiousity build, then one day, matter of factly in the most confident manner possible ask her out for dinner.

This does not mean these 10s are princesses. It simply means they are used to weak, pushover men waiting on them hand and foot, desperately hoping for an opening, all the while they show how desperate they are. You accentuate the problem and in a way create it.

Aim lower or learn how to deal with gorgeous women.

Or buy a Ferrari. That seems to work too. That can bridge the gap between you being a 7 or less and she being a 10. Just don't expect long term happiness.

reply to post by celticdog


Very true. In my early years of high school I started to tell women my name was "Bridge" I'd never tell them why. They all knew my real name. BUt I would refer to myself as bridge. Reason being. I had so many female "friends" that I would explain to them once they got some new boyfriend that I was simply their bridge from one guy to the next. And I'd move on. For a while they would miss their friend and look for me to whine about their new boyfriends but I was gone by that time.

Eventually I got sick of it and went to a whole new high school and eliminated the problem. But yeah. Girls are always looking for the one and are apparently so smart that they never realize the one was right there the whole time. Usually when they do its waaaay too late. Id like to think they spend the rest of their life wishing they could get that "one" back but I doubt they do. As long as their needs are met its sorta out of sight out of mind with women.

Feminisation of Rationale Thought Process .

It is not gender exclusive .

It is a Social Phenomena .

Traditionally , Rational Thought Process was male domain .

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