Dr Sal's Warning

reply to post by bottleslingguy


Asperger syndrome is what I immediately thought of when watching this video. My brother in law has it and, especially when recalling facts, this is exactly what he does. The voice inflections and the rhythm of his speech also sounds like my brother in law.

I personally think my brother in law is an educated idiot. (sorry, personal issues between he and I, and it spills over.)

All in all a believable video, however I'm not sure that I'm completely buying it. The radio transmission time is a particularly troublesome issue for myself. Even if the aliens have the tech to be able to send messages faster than us, it shouldn't affect our transmissions to them. Unless they just happen to have a 'mothership' nearby to relay the transmissions, but then wouldn't the transmission times be based on their tech?.

Then there is the entire language issue. How are we to know that our interpretation is, in fact, correct? Are we sure that their interpretation of our language is correct? If they exist, how similar are they to us. I'm not sure that we would be able to competently understand a species that evolved is a way that would be totally "alien" to the human species. (sorry, no pun intended but I couldn't think of a better or more fitting word).

What does our scientific community say about this? Have they done any kind of research into this?

As for the whole world coming together to solve this, sounds more like fantasy than any thing else. Takes ideas from wherever, but I seriously doubt that Billy Bob from Hog Holler Tennessee is gonna have any idea for a solution. My apologies to Billy Bob and Hog Holler, I freely admit I could be wrong. Just using a stereotype to make a point.

As far as HAARP goes, not sure which side of the fence I'm on with that one. Not a great video, but it sure gives me something to look into.

peace

Originally posted by solargeddon
reply to post by Unthought Known

 

You make a good point, however hurricane detection technology isn't foolproof (I remember the great storm of "87), of course as you point out if the technology is advanced enough then perhaps.

Although even if they could detect changes in our electromagnetic field, could they also give us a time frame ?

As pole shifts in the past have varied in the time taken, how could they know ours would be within the next five years ? What would be the tale tell signs ? isn't there scope for the pace of a shift to slow down or speed up, how can they calculate the variables to know it would be in that time frame, from the point they sent the message ?

Off topic.

I always find it interesting that we tend to look out on the universe, and perceive by and large that extra terrestrial life is more intelligent, and advanced than ourselves, this is one of those threads that leaves me questioning if perhaps the opposite is more true ?!

I guess my only point is that if there is intelligent life out there and if they have been advanced in technology for 1000's or millions of years, which dwarfs our 100 years or so, then who knows what they are capable of? Just because we don't know about it or understand it, doesn't mean we can wholeheartedly say "how can that be possible because we know it isn't true based on our own science" since our "own science" is challenged nearly every day. Multiply that by 1000's or millions of years then who knows where we will be?

Originally posted by RichardA
reply to post by bottleslingguy

 

Then there is the entire language issue. How are we to know that our interpretation is, in fact, correct? Are we sure that their interpretation of our language is correct? If they exist, how similar are they to us. I'm not sure that we would be able to competently understand a species that evolved is a way that would be totally "alien" to the human species. (sorry, no pun intended but I couldn't think of a better or more fitting word).

What does our scientific community say about this? Have they done any kind of research into this?

That is the one subject I have yet to bother breaching in this fallacy.
No way, no how, would we even be close to understanding what they were telling us in 15-17 messages or less, which using Dr. Nope's timeline, would be about how many we would receive.
Since it would have to be mathematical for us to be able to communicate in a language that would be universally understood, it would take a great deal of time to work out a vocabulary that we could interpret equally.
It sure wouldn't be in English, and if they chose the dominant language on Earth to communicate with us, it would be Mandarin.

My guess is that our scientific community took a quick glance at the video, and immediately discerned it at what it was.
CRAP.
Kind of wish I had done the same rather than repeat myself endlessly to people too busy wishing instead of thinking.

reply to post by Unthought Known

Why would they give a flying fug about us and our puny poleshift then?
Better yet, why would a species thousands or millions of years advanced to us even try to communicate with us?
There are species on this planet that evolved at pretty close to the same rate as that, and we EAT them.
Bunk, total bunk.

Hi,

Like many, I have some hold back to believe this message. First, the strong impression of deja-vu, countless time I've seen this kind of message on the net since the last ten years. Seems very plausible, cross-check some real data, event and testimonies, etc... The man seems knowledgeable. So, It is not enough to discard the whole.

But... as I am able to recognize some signs when I can watch someone talking, I see a man making up some parts here and there, and its quite obvious. Look at his eyes, where does he look when he talks. Up right and up left, nearly all of the time during the video.

When someone talks to you and looks at the upper right (your right), he/she is recovering memory, when he/she looks to the left (your left) he is constructing from imagination, not memory. Nevertheless, it is not infallible, it can sometimes count exceptions. But with the large amount of time he does look up left and right during the talk, we got a pretty good shot, he is like a very easy book to read.

I see a very good mixture of real experience with some self construct facts to present a believable story. I think this guy really worked with Nasa on this secret project, but I think he makes some high jumps where he is not sure, but rather perspicacious... Certainly with a good intention, again.

Santor

Originally posted by ViktorHaze
reply to post by Res Ipsa

 

OK, fine...
They sent us Quantum signals or whatever you chose to call it, and it is so advanced that we can pick it up with HAARP, every 331 days, (for some inexplicable reason) and even though we are hobbled by the fact we can only send signals at light speed, it doesn't matter because their tech can pick it up, either because it is so advanced or because they have a relay or something nearby that converts the signal to their tech, whether we have similar tech or not, and have been communicating back and forth for 15 years, and the most important thing they have to tell us is we are going to die.
Oh yeah, for some reason they didn't mention this right away, it was towards the end after some interstellar chit chat, that was apparently about nothing in particular...
Does that about cover your theory on this?

He threw in the prime number stuff because it sounds neat and sciencey.
If I was Sal I would answer your chit chat question with this.......
" The Alpha's didn't know at first if they could trust us or if they even wanted to help us with anything. After all, they wouldn't even confirm where they were like I said. They decided, after years of chit chat that we were worth helping so they told us in-spite of viewing us as a primitive warring species and giving us too much useful information would be like giving a toddler a loaded gun. They are confused that we have so many different and archaic religions and......blah...blah...( 10 minutes of my philosophy later)....so that is why they waited before sharing with us this most valuable information."

I do believe that there are civilizations out there that could hand deliver us a letter and return to their galaxy before we finished reading it. I believe we could write a letter and throw it in the air and they could receive it. It would be just as magical as when a child drops a letter in the mailbox and grandma magically gets it 3 days later. We shouldn't be so mentally boxed in by what we think we know about universal laws of time space and physics. The world isn't flat anymore.

At one point the guy says that the alien transmissions are not like what we get in TV or Radio, that they're organized sequences of bits and "beats" (bytes?).

This, along with "Ursula major", are two technical terms he would have to use fluently, given his role in decoding transmissions. Also, didn't TV transmissions switch to digital last year? Meaning, it is like TV after all?

There's also an occasional smile here and there that are very telling. IMO this sounds like total BS.

Originally posted by WanderingThe3rd

Originally posted by PrinceDreamer

Originally posted by Alexander the Great
reply to post by PrinceDreamer

 

Well I appreiciate you summerizing it for us. Now I don't have to watch a video of a guy talking about pole shifts and aliens, I won't hold my breath.

Well I understand your reluctance, doom porn is beginning to wear very thin. I found this particular video though to be, for the want of a better word, interesting.

The way he speaks and the technical references he uses seem to indicate a knowledge of the subject. If he bothered to script this up, he did a very good job indeed, I dismiss most of these type of posts on youtube, but this seems to be a little different, I would recommend seeing it, I am not going to say it is real but I am not so prepared to dismiss it out of hand just yet, there is an air of believability about it, of course that is not proof. A lot of people have looked into him, some drawing a blank, others getting bits of info here and there.

The tax reference someone had found seems interesting to, if it is the same guy, he filed as having earnt 350k last year, not a muppets wage for sure and would some what match with the kind of position he says he has. Trouble is there are so many pages on this thread now it is very hard to keep up with what has and hasn't been found.

Of course it is up to you whether you watch it or not, but I would say it is worthwhile, its different from the normal ones posted

Peace

someone should start a new thread witha recap, and all the information found about him posted as well

Done - www.reddit.com...

reply to post by Res Ipsa


It took some effort on my part, after he mentioned 331 as being a prime number, to continue watching. That irrelevant fact alone (what significance could it possibly have?) is highly indicative of BS.

Originally posted by Res Ipsa

Originally posted by ViktorHaze
reply to post by Res Ipsa

 

He threw in the prime number stuff because it sounds neat and sciencey.

And that in itself, sums it all up.
The rest of your post almost sounds like you think I don't believe in the possibility of advanced civilisations and their magical abilities.
To the contrary.
The issue at hand is that this story is obviously fake.
No amount of speculation about the veracity of the details being possible change that.
So, by all means think outside of the box.
Just be aware, that that box is currently full Miss Kitty's finest clumping litter, and it needs to be changed.

reply to post by Inous

Well perusing that thread, just briefly, and it is full of the same nonsense that's on this thread...
Hardly a recap, more like a redux...
Nice try though.

Originally posted by solargeddon
reply to post by Kratos40

 

Fair point, but pole reversal speed, how could they know the time frame, as processes don't always occur at a constant pace.

Yes, but keep in mind that here on Earth we have supercomputers and special algorithims that can predict the folding of complex proteins. So look forward, an alien species that probably has been around longer than us developing such science and techniques that would be hundreds if not millenia ahead of what we can currently achieve.
But don't stress out too much. In the end, this whole story could just be bogus.

reply to post by Kratos40

You have yet to speculate as to why they would bother.
You are absolutely right about it being bogus.

So here's some food for thought....

If these alleged "aliens" out there have technology that is so advanced that they can send & receive messages from earth that are faster than the speed of light (therefore proving our known science to be flawed....a true possibility), then what are the odds that they could be advanced enough to save our technologically inferior planet from the dreaded Van Allen belt???

Lol...

This guy really offered nothing in the way of evidence or solutions. I call bullshizzle.

reply to post by CIAGypsy

Don't you know?
Yeah, me neither...
I keep asking all the "open minded, outside of the box thinkers" in this thread to answer that question, but it get's ignored.
For some reason, an advanced alien species that can communicate with us effortlessly over the deep black, that has tech that appears magical to us, can detect changes in our magnetic fields years before they happen...and they can neither save us, nor wish to be more specific, when asked questions...
Sounds suspiciously like..faith, to me.
And that's all this world needs is another faith.

So essentially, if this is true, then we all need to find out where all the underground bunkers are that the elite plan on using and get ready to get in there before they do. I mean, taxpayer dollars paid for it so it's kinda ours too, right? Reckon they'll invite us in? lol

I don't normally delve into these sort of things. I did watch some of the video, and its hard to take things like this seriously. Especially considering how many claims have been made over the years. The longer you live, the more claims you see that never come to pass.

I will say this, there have been an estimated five mass extinctions that we know of in earths history. If we look at lost civilizations -- which we are finding it seems every day -- with literally no signs of how or why they were destroyed, we can only theorize. Anyways, these five mass extinctions are signs that it has happened in the past. We would all have to be rather ignorant to think these events could not happen again. Either through natural forces, or humanity destroying itself through wars, continued pollution of our ecosystem, etc.

If anyone knows who Gram Hancock is, he has some incredibly interesting insights and theories on ancient lost civilizations. He explains why humanity is much older than current archeology would suggest. That the sphinx and pyramids in Egypt are at least 10,000 years older than currently accepted dates from the established archeological community..

Whats interesting is when we find evidence like what was currently found in the waters just off the UK. 8,000 years ago something went terribly wrong in this region that is now massively underwater. Was it simply glacial ice melt? Its possible. I can't help but feel humanity suffers from a massive amount of amnesia in regards to our past, and just how old we as a species are.

Originally posted by ViktorHaze
reply to post by Kratos40

 

You have yet to speculate as to why they would bother.
You are absolutely right about it being bogus.

edit on 12-8-2012 by ViktorHaze because: (no reason given)

Perhaps they are too far away to assist in any capacity. Also keep in mind, that they might just be observers and may abide by laws against interfering. In keeping an open mind, lets assume that they know what's going to happen, but the problem/situation is too big to solve.
Maybe this is why the guy in the video that we should all put our differences aside and work as a collective in order to save our Earthly behinds.

Originally posted by Kratos40

Originally posted by ViktorHaze
reply to post by Kratos40

 

You have yet to speculate as to why they would bother.
You are absolutely right about it being bogus.

edit on 12-8-2012 by ViktorHaze because: (no reason given)

Perhaps they are too far away to assist in any capacity. Also keep in mind, that they might just be observers and may abide by laws against interfering. In keeping an open mind, lets assume that they know what's going to happen, but the problem/situation is too big to solve.
Maybe this is why the guy in the video that we should all put our differences aside and work as a collective in order to save our Earthly behinds.

Look at the genocide taking place across this planet we all call home. Look at Darfur, Uganda, etc. We have the capacity to help now by sending in forces to aid these regions. Do we? No, because politics and economics. If it was based on a moral code, we'd likely never have a war to begin with.

What if mass planetary extinctions are incredibly common? What if they're more common than they are not? If this is the case, it would make total sense as to why no one would interfere. Perhaps they are already stretched too thin? What if said alien race is not in a bit of a pickle of their own via war, etc? We can only speculate, even if it sounds outrageous. I am by no means giving legitimacy to this man and his claims. Just doing my best to keep a sound open mind.

reply to post by Kratos40

That's bloody convenient, isn't it?
Prime directive, pfft....
If they were so advanced and still can't help us, what would be the point of warning us at all?
If they can't do anything about it, then it stands to reason NEITHER CAN WE!
So again, why bother?
Try using regular logic, as opposed to circular logic...


edit to add:
If they have a law of observance only, they already broke it by speaking to us, and telling us that we are doomed...