Dr Sal's Warning

reply to post by gemdog

Personally, I find no reason to deny this theory. Einstein even supported it.

Yes, Einstein did support the basic theory. However, there are two things we need to understand before we jump on that bandwagon. The first is that Eistein referred to the shift occuring, "within a short time." Geologically speaking, the 5000 years that Charles Hapgood (the author of the geology book that Einstein wrote a foreword for) spoke of is an extremely short amount of time. The second is that Einstein died before they had proven the theory of plate tectonics. After that happened, the scientific community left this theory on the history book shelf.

A good link to the relevant information about the Charles Hapgood theory, and why it should have been left alone can be found here:

www.2012hoax.org...

reply to post by elrem48

This thread is about as thought provoking as my catbox.
If you geniuses bothered to read through the whole thread, you would know that it has been debunked at least 15 times!
To recap:
1.His gibberish about the time it took to send and receive messages is impossible if the planet is 57 light years away. No, it does not matter if "they" are using a quantum radio to send and receive messages, because we are not.
2.Pole reversals have happened at regular reversals ALWAYS, and will continue to do so, about every 800 000 (correction 200 000) years or so, and yes we are due.
3.There is ZERO correlation between these reversals and and mass extinctions.Period.
4.The Van Allen belts can not collapse down on to the Earth. They can weaken, and/or move farther out, but they will never touch the surface, it's just not how it works.
5.His science sounds convincing...Seriously?
That's your argument?
It only sounds convincing because you don't have a clue. Go read up on this stuff before you come on here and believe everything someone who sounds convincing says, instead of complaining how those of us who do know what he is talking about are ruining the party.

There's been an awful lot of talk of body language in this thread, for and against.

It's probably a good time to point out that 'body language' is a joke. It's origins and development is based on observed interactions of...Rhesus Monkeys.

NOT humans and our complex mental maps, social pressures, taboos and personality quirks...but monkeys.

I wouldn't put too much faith in it, unless you feel we're not much more complex than Rhesus Monkeys are.

Even psychologists use it more as a method of leverage, rather than anything else.

The idea being, if you THINK a psychologist (etc.) can tell if you're lying from your stance, expressions, and movements..the chances are you are going to fear this and reveal yourself in the verbal language you use..which is a far more reliable indicator.

It's a 'frightener' tool.

it will also be the 32 olympics when this takes place if it does, talk about bringing in the flood

reply to post by gemdog





I dont think any body is denying the pole shift (its a given) or much of what he has said

after all It can easily be sourced off the internet!

The crux of the matter is 'is he a genuine NASA employee? And has he been

communicating with aliens for (is it) 15 years?

reply to post by ViktorHaze


you forgot the part where their technology to recive and send messages is different from ours and that it doesn't matter how far their planet is

Originally posted by solargeddon
I have been following the thread to a certain extent, and watched the vid, one thing which instantaneously bothered the hell out of me, and I know others have mentioned is....

How could the "E.T's" know about an imminent pole shift ?

If anyone has read a response to this question, please could you point me in the right direction, allowise this above all else seems to be one of the standout points.

Unless we have a plausible reason for how this knowledge could be acquired by entities not of this planet in the first instance, when we ourselves couldn't put a time frame on it, how on earth (and beyond) could they ?

I wrote a basic theory of a few possibles...you might want to read the post, it although most of it's naturally wild and speculative.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

“he says they have established two way communication, but the signals have a huge time lag, so a signal sent receives and answer 331 days later.”
PrinceDreamer

www.astro.wisc.edu...
Note that the nearest star ( other then the sun) is 4.2 light years away.
Faster then light means time travel, that is why it is impossible. Kill your grandfather, you don't exist, therefore you never existed and so your grandfather is alive, which means you do exist, which means you don't exist, which means you....
Also faster then light requires infinite energy. That means a technology that makes moving the entire universe (100,000,000,000 galaxies with 100,000,000,000 stars in each galaxy) around unimpressive. Infinity when compared to even a huge number makes that number look like zero!

Originally posted by ViktorHaze
To recap:
1.His gibberish about the time it took to send and receive messages is impossible if the planet is 57 light years away. No, it does not matter if "they" are using a quantum radio to send and receive messages, because we are not.

All Alien messages emanate from the same region of space..."Ursala Major (I assume he means
Ursa Major)...an area "north of Delta Ursae Majoris" and "south of the Hubble Deep Field"

From the direction of that area of space.

reply to post by eletheia


I think it's more important to confirm he is who he claims to be before anything else..and quickly too.

If he's on the level (IF he is), you can bet NASA and just about everyone else are busy deleting all records they have of him as we speak.

If he can't prove he was there, the rest isn't going anywhere.

reply to post by TreatyWomack

Members on here have responded to those questions, but here we go again...
Yes, it's happening.
No, it won't be the end of the world since it hasn't been the end the hundreds of times it has happened in the past.
No, the Van Allen belts can't fall to the Earth, it doesn't work that way, and I have never read that from any reputable scientist.
Good enough?

Originally posted by FromTheAlphaAndOmega

Originally posted by Druscilla

Total wall-eyed delusional nonsense.

Another prediction, another date to watch, another poor fool that needs to be medicated and possibly locked away for their own safety and the safety of others, especially the safety of of soft-headed gullible people that will gobble this stuff up like candy.

If that's the case, with the same logic the entire population of this planet should be "locked away for their own safety and the safety of others" He may or may not be correct, but with the events that have come into play recently (earthquakes that aren't being reported in the news and things like that) at least some of the things he says make sense. I believe you may be trying to ignore all of the information he presents based on personal bias on the whole "alien message" concept.

She sounds like she has issues and needs attention from us good or bad. Mommy and Daddy must be cold parents who don't listen to her every whim.

Originally posted by MysterX
reply to post by eletheia

 

I think it's more important to confirm he is who he claims to be before anything else..and quickly too.

If he's on the level (IF he is), you can bet NASA and just about everyone else are busy deleting all records they have of him as we speak.

If he can't prove he was there, the rest isn't going anywhere.

And if he wasn't employed by NASA and no trace of him is found he will say that NASA

deleted him and TPTB are after him. Different angle same result!!


The very same thing was done 2 years ago here on ATS search the thread "Alleged NASA

Affiliated Astronomer Deciphers Intelligent Signal from nearby star"


This has all the same hall marks.

reply to post by MysterX


Thanks, its a valliant stab, but still falls short of being a comprehensive answer (how they would be able to monitor our electromagnetic field), in addition,how could they know a rough timeline, as the event hasn't happend yet ?

Thank you for the response though,and like you said, it was wild speculation, which is all we can do at this present time, to me it just seems this cannot be answered, and for me it is the most important part about the vid, because if this can't be riddled out, then how can the message from the vid have any truth ?

reply to post by WanderingThe3rd

No I didn't, because it doesn't matter...
If I'm going to send a message to the other side of the country, I will likely use technology that the intended target can receive.
i.e., I don't text message my mom, because she has a landline, I don't send an email, because she doesn't have a computer, etc.
Logic goes a long way. Any civilisation trying to communicate with us would have to use tech we can access, unless they are sending us thought waves.
Dr. Nope didn't mention any of that.

reply to post by eletheia


That's true eletheia.

That's why it's important to track him down before 'he's deleted'...probably already too late, this story is global...so if he's legit he's probably been erased, and if he's a hoaxer...well, as you say there won't be a record of him at NASA.

Although Bob Lazar claims his records were erased...it's curious that he seems to have been hired in recent years (after allegedly pledging to keep his mouth shut his time) in the same field it was claimed he had never worked in.

Will be interesting what people can dig up on this bloke, if anything.

reply to post by roadgravel

Already covered....multiple times.
Goddammit people use your heads.
He even screwed up the name of the constellation, FFS!

reply to post by tidycat

So speaks someone who doesn't like the answer...
Look, just because you don't have the mental power to grasp the science behind what this fraud is actually trying to you fool with, you decide to pick on a member who is so obviously more intelligent than you, it's almost funny.
I can't wait till school starts again, so those like you have better things to do....try learning something while your there..

Originally posted by solargeddon
I have been following the thread to a certain extent, and watched the vid, one thing which instantaneously bothered the hell out of me, and I know others have mentioned is....

How could the "E.T's" know about an imminent pole shift ?

If anyone has read a response to this question, please could you point me in the right direction, allowise this above all else seems to be one of the standout points.

Unless we have a plausible reason for how this knowledge could be acquired by entities not of this planet in the first instance, when we ourselves couldn't put a time frame on it, how on earth (and beyond) could they ?

Surely if this question cannot be resolved with a realistic answer, then there would be no need to dig further, as the answer would be the whole thing is a hoax.

In the 1800's no man would know that a hurricane was going to slam into them. 100 years later we do. That's is just one small example of how technology, given enough time to develop, could determine things we once thought were impossible. What if that technology is 1000 years old? Maybe even 1 million years old? I am sure there is an amazing and incomprehensible amount of information we would have access to if it were that old.

reply to post by solargeddon


Thanks.

It's a curious one, that's for sure.

Assuming the source is a highly advanced and technological off world species, who are thousands of years ahead of us in physics and remote sensing, we can only speculate what technology could be used to tell them of the shift, years ahead of time.

It could conceivable be anything all the way from an advanced remote sensing ability, similar to our reading the spectrum of emissions from distant planets to tell if they are Earth like or not, to ultra developed Psi abilities, to dimensional scrying...as in 'through the looking glass' technology.

Or it might not even be from ET at all, but a clandestine but Human source, trying to set up a fake scenario to bring in a united Earth...'all nations have to work together, realise that all religions are talking about the same thing...sounds a lot like what people have said the so-called NWO agenda is.

Who knows.