Man Shown Aborted Children In Heaven

So, if it is true (and I laugh because he is a nut job) then religious people should stop freaking out at people that have abortions because the foetus gets to go to heaven.

Ok religious people, give women the choice, you have just been shown ‘by god’ that it is ok to have abortions if they want to.

No more ranting on the subject now….. You have been proven wrong.

Mickierocksman

reply to post by ofhumandescent


Moloch isn't an owl, it is a cow. Whatever they are dancing around at the Bohemian Grove is not Moloch.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by VoidHawk

 

I use to be pro-choice.

Dont get me wrong, I too believe abortion is wrong. However, when we have a choice (most do) we try to do what causes the least amount of suffering. An unwanted child may suffer all its life, so too might the mother. So whats best?
My own personal view is we should respect the wishes of the mother, assuming she is of sound mind.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
I've been around almost 60 years and things are getting really strange.................not just progressively strange but really super strange.

Like you I am very close to 60 and I agree its getting "strange", but I'm a non believer, and though I know about Bohemia grove I do not believe in their god either.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
James Holmes, the face eaters in FL, endless wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes, floods, petulance, this is just the beginning......................come back in another five years and tell us if you think this guy is so whacked out.

Most of that stuff has always been happening, it's just more widely reported these days.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
All babies and dogs go to heaven (my own opinion).

As I said, I'm not a believer, however, if I was I'd agree that dogs would go to heaven, I like dogs more than I like most people

This man story jives with the book "Heaven is For Real" where the little boy met his sister who was miscarried, she was growing up in Heaven.

Some of the comments here are crass beyond belief.

As for the condemned comments, it seems that some people choose to forget that God is a forgiving God.

People should listen to his story from the beginning. The very man in the OP video was born despite an attempted abortion that his father wanted on his mother. They very person you are looking at in the OP video was almost not here and fortunately because he is, he is able to tell you about his unique life story and experiences from a family of background in the dark arts to coming to christ.

There has been enough confirmed "memories" from kids to support the idea of reincarnation.

Here is abortion from a different perspective:

The child's soul chooses to come into a family that will abort it for either the soul growth it causes in the family or to cycle through a particular incarnation quickly so that they can go back into higher states (which some call heaven.)
Reincarnation means that babies don't come to earth, get aborted, then thats that. THey come they go they come they go, just like the rest of us.

It seems that more people care for animals on the road than they do for unborn children.
Road kill expierment
But once children are born most people would gladly burn anyone at the stake for a accusation of child molestation.Regardless of facts or guilt.
50 police officers arrested in child porn raids.

Originally posted by MeesterB
Thanks for posting this.

You can debate all day about the validity of his story, but you can't deny the message. I bet God is sad when unborn children are destroyed.

it's true, unborn babies who are murdered and babies who die in infantcy are not held accountable. It may seem like a small mercy but at least they do not have to worry about losing the kingdom to come. What seems a small mercy to us becomes a great blessing fo them.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
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Moloch isn't an owl, it is a cow. Whatever they are dancing around at the Bohemian Grove is not Moloch.

en.wikipedia.org...

It's Lilith. The owl was her idol.

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Bishop Kelley, he also saw his son that died years earlier. And if I remember his testimony correctly there were two groups of children, aborted children and children who died in wars.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by ofhumandescent

 

Moloch isn't an owl, it is a cow. Whatever they are dancing around at the Bohemian Grove is not Moloch.

en.wikipedia.org...

You may be right but both the owl and the cow are symbols used in pagean worship.
Imo It is an owl and it gives power to isis.Either way they are trying to get rid of there care.
thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com... symbolism.html

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I guess you don't realize that a lot of people don't see a 3 week old fetus as alive

Originally posted by ANOK

Originally posted by MeesterB
I bet God is sad when unborn children are destroyed.

Why would he be upset? How are the children destroyed?

I thought heaven was the ultimate goal, those children got a free-pass. If heaven is so great I don't think they would be too worried about not having lives on Earth?

Because abortion ends the life, love and promise of a human being.

There isn't a "race to heaven", as you seem to imply. We are here for a reason.

Killing a baby negates that purpose. How dare you say that they don't deserve a life on this Earth?

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by deadeyedick

 

I guess you don't realize that a lot of people don't see a 3 week old fetus as alive

edit on 1-8-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)

Cannibals don't see eating human flesh as immoral either, ignorance and immorality are not excuses for murder.

Heaven is full of fetuses. I wonder if it's full of sperm as well? The pill has done a number on them.

reply to post by adjensen

Because abortion ends the life, love and promise of a human being. There isn't a "race to heaven", as you seem to imply. We are here for a reason. Killing a baby negates that purpose. How dare you say that they don't deserve a life on this Earth?

But it does not kill the soul, which will come back as another human being. But again, the soul in that baby chose to come into the abortive family to be recycled back (As souls "in heaven" we are timeless and spaceless and able to perceive beyond time and thus chose the circumstances we are born in for the purposes of soul growth.) But then Christians don't believe in the concept of reincarnation and thus get their panties in a bunch over abortion.

Also funny about the whole abortion thing, I bet a good chunk of "pro-lifers" also support the death penalty, thus not pro-life, at the most just anti-abortion

The soul and the body are not the same thing therefore the more appropriate question to ask in determining life is when the soul comes into the body. Soul comes into body, soul leaves body, soul comes into another body, so on and so forth.

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I do realize the confusion of some people.
I suppose that we all draw the line of when a person is alive differently.
When does life begin in the eyes of God is the question i have always asked.

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by adjensen

 

Because abortion ends the life, love and promise of a human being. There isn't a "race to heaven", as you seem to imply. We are here for a reason. Killing a baby negates that purpose. How dare you say that they don't deserve a life on this Earth?

But it does not kill the soul, which will come back as another human being.

So your defense against abortion is a belief in reincarnation? Seriously?

We know that abortion kills a child. Reincarnation is, at best, a claim without basis. How do you justify a cold reality with a claim that is speculation?

Also funny about the whole abortion thing, I bet a good chunk of "pro-lifers" also support the death penalty, thus not pro-life, at the most just anti-abortion

I can't speak for anyone else, but I have been against capital punishment for longer than I have been against abortion. I can tell you that both the Catholic and Methodist churches hold the same viewpoints (the only two that I really pay attention to, sorry.)

United Methodist Church

Catholic Church

reply to post by adjensen

So your defense against abortion is a belief in reincarnation? Seriously? We know that abortion kills a child. Reincarnation is, at best, a claim without basis. How do you justify a cold reality with a claim that is speculation?

A claim without basis? Wrong. A claim unable to be considered by closed minds perhaps, but without basis? Children's memories provide a basis-try this MSM story on for size. I'm sure this kids incredible hits were just coincidence.



To pull out a quote from the video: Dad says "I'm really glad your my son, it's fun to have you as my son.
Kid says "I know, that's why I picked you." Like I said, souls choose the situations they incarnate into.

The video also provides an example of the work of Dr Ian Stevenson:

Probably the best known, if not most respected, collection of scientific data that appears to provide scientific proof that reincarnation is real, is the life's work of Dr. Ian Stevenson. Instead of relying on hypnosis to verify that an individual has had a previous life, he instead chose to collect thousands of cases of children who spontaneously (without hypnosis) remember a past life. Dr. Ian Stevenson uses this approach because spontaneous past life memories in a child can be investigated using strict scientific protocols. Hypnosis, while useful in researching into past lives, is less reliable from a purely scientific perspective. In order to collect his data, Dr. Stevenson methodically documents the child's statements of a previous life. Then he identifies the deceased person the child remembers being, and verifies the facts of the deceased person's life that match the child's memory. He even matches birthmarks and birth defects to wounds and scars on the deceased, verified by medical records. His strict methods systematically rule out all possible "normal" explanations for the child’s memories.

But before you dismiss the kid as speculation and the Dr as a crackpot:

Dr. Stevenson's credentials are impeccable. He is a medical doctor and had many scholarly papers to his credit before he began paranormal research. He is the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, and now is Director of the Division of Personality Studies at the University of Virginia.

reluctant-messenger.com...
haigobaigo.hubpages.com...

I justify a cold reality by knowing that reincarnation is more than just speculation or lucky guesses. That's how.

If God hates abortion why did he create the physical possibility of miscarriages?