GOP Poverty Creators Plan to Increase Taxes on 22.9 Million Poor and Middle Class Families

reply to post by White Locust


unless the family is drawing help from social services...
then it is unaccounted sideways funding for the social service programs!!!

reply to post by grey580

# these rich greedy slobs, I say we take a week off work and see what they accomplish without us all!

Originally posted by jrx2020
It's my money I earned it, you didn't, I don't owe you squat, entitlements are whats killing this country and people that don't make any money thinking that they are owed by birth right.
To many leeches not enough hosts

Pay people what they are worth, a living wage. The average CEO makes hundreds of times what their workers makes then pays then a pittance. This will not continue, whether you want it to or not. People will only be trodden on for so long. You KNOW people are not being paid the value of their work. What you are saying sounds a lot like"let them eat cake" stop acting like a spoiled child, grow up. To me a leech is someone who lets their workers do 90 percent of the work and gives them 10 percent of the profits.

Lemme see if I have this straight.......

The one party system in this country wants to raise taxes and get rid of the child tax credit and eliminate the payroll tax cut so that Jan 1st all of that money they weren't pulling out of my check because of the payroll tax cut gets recompounded on top of my head so that when April comes around I will owe more than I can pay hand over fist because I don't get paid much to begin with?

And who the hell is FICA? and why is he getting my money?


F--K the IRS........and F--K the lawmakers.

I want to ride this all the way down to the scene of the crash.

reply to post by grey580


Your post looks like just another Campaign Ad to me.

Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by nunyadammm

 

That's not what I said at all...don't put words in my mouth....

OK, tell me exactly what I got wrong. That is what I am reading.

Man, I hate liars like you.

Then correct me.

You want small business owners to pay more taxes and have to fire people in order to satisfy your need for more taxes??? Sick.

Well I know I never posted anything even like that.

reply to post by grey580


Question... Do any of you know basic math?... Or are you all too busy trying to play politics that you forgot your basic math skills?...

How many of your families make only $8,000 -$13,300 a year? This means making about $667- $1,108.33 U.S dollars a month...

Let's say you are making the minimum wage, which I doubt because ALL OF YOU are using a computer and the internet. The minimum wage is $7.25 right now. If you multiply $7.25 x40 (for working 40 hours) = $290 a week.

Now multiplying $290 X 4 (there are normally 4 weeks in a month for most months) = $1,160... And that's if there is ONLY one person working in a family.

Most Americans are making MORE than $7.25 unless you started working less than 6 months ago and have no experience, or degrees whatsoever.

You see, meanwhile the Obama administration, including Obama, are hiding the facts, and while the Obamatrons can't think past their noses, have to play politics and can't see, is that this sort of money (about $667-$1083) is what ILLEGAL ALIENS are making... ILLEGAL ALIENS who don't pay income taxes...

What is OBama, and the Obamatrons in power doing?... They are trying to allow MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS into the U.S.A., and even to make them legal simply TO WIN VOTES...

So this article, that most of you immediately jumped in to back as an excuse to claim (THOSE EVIL REPUBLICANS) is simply being used as a political tool by people who want to see Obama re-elected...

Anyway, I don't like Romney, I'll rather Ron Paul won, and if you all are American and vote for Obama again, you are not paying any attention to what is going on...

Originally posted by jrx2020
It's my money I earned it, you didn't, I don't owe you squat, entitlements are whats killing this country and people that don't make any money thinking that they are owed by birth right.

To many leeches not enough hosts

You never earned a thing that someone else did not give you.
People like you kind of amaze me.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


A verifiable fact or two would totally not hurt your post.
All I am saying.

Originally posted by nunyadammm
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

A verifiable fact or two would totally not hurt your post.
All I am saying.

Like what exactly are you talking about?

Everything I wrote can be verified by anyone, and YOU should be doing the verifying not me...

Oh, and btw, even if you are making the minimum wage you make more than what I wrote above because there is 4.34812 weeks in a month or a total 52.1775 weeks in a year instead of just 4 weeks in a month, and 48 months in a year that I used in my calculations.

I just round up a few numbers to make it even just for sick time etc, which shouldn't be 4 weeks a year or almost a month off.

Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by beezzer

 

That is not another side to this story.
That's a loophole that needs to be closed.
My tax money, nor anyone's, should not be going to illegal aliens with no social security number.

edit on 30-7-2012 by grey580 because: (no reason given)

What I cant figure out is how they file at all without a SS number. I use Turbo Tax, and I HAVE TO supply a SS number (for myself and my son) or it wont let me complete the forms and file.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Yes.


Anything else you want to say?

Originally posted by beezzer

Actually no. I didn't make this thread. I only responded.

And yes, a flat tax overall with no loopholes would be best for all.

If only that was true...

A flat tax instead of the PROGRESSIVE TAXES that were implemented by PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS in 1913 by funding the IRS as it exists now, with it's book with THOUSANDS of pages of entirely non-sensical rethoric to make the mayority of Americans fall asleep to the fact that we all are being robbed, and have been robbed by the LEFT since at least 1913 until today with who knows how many trillions upon trillions of U.S. dollars...

But that will never happen... The LEFT love their PROGRESSIVE TAXES, alongside the FEDERAL RESERVE that PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS funded in 1913, and ALL THE CORPORATIONS that have surfaced since then and have become monopolies because of the LEFT's plan to fund the Federal Reserve and the IRS...

So who exactly are the LEFT/aka the mayority of the we are the 99% protesting against?...

Originally posted by grey580


Yes.


Anything else you want to say?

Ah, so you are a supporter of Obama and just posted this dribble, and the lies to TRY to cruxify Republicans and for the re-election of Obama?...

Yep...I guess that's all I have to say...

Originally posted by coop039


What I cant figure out is how they file at all without a SS number. I use Turbo Tax, and I HAVE TO supply a SS number (for myself and my son) or it wont let me complete the forms and file.

Many of them don't have a SS number which is why employers pay them LESS than the Federal minimum wage, for not being able to file their taxes, and which is why they are the category of people who make less than $13,300 a year.

Some of them get their SS number stolen from someone else, some just make up a SS number, until they are caught.

Then when they are caught they are extradited to wherever they came from illegally, paid for by our tax dollars which the illegals didn't pay.

Then they try to return to the U.S.A. again illegally until they are caught and extradited again, in a never ending cycle in which it costs taxpayer dollars meanwhile the illegals pay no income taxes.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by beezzer

Actually no. I didn't make this thread. I only responded.

And yes, a flat tax overall with no loopholes would be best for all.

If only that was true...

A flat tax instead of the PROGRESSIVE TAXES that were implemented by PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS in 1913 by funding the IRS as it exists now, with it's book with THOUSANDS of pages of entirely non-sensical rethoric to make the mayority of Americans fall asleep to the fact that we all are being robbed, and have been robbed by the LEFT since at least 1913 until today with who knows how many trillions upon trillions of U.S. dollars...

But that will never happen... The LEFT love their PROGRESSIVE TAXES, alongside the FEDERAL RESERVE that PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS funded in 1913, and ALL THE CORPORATIONS that have surfaced since then and have become monopolies because of the LEFT's plan to fund the Federal Reserve and the IRS...

So who exactly are the LEFT/aka the mayority of the we are the 99% protesting against?...

edit on 1-8-2012 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

1.Some weeks I make less than minimum wage.

2.You are talking about corporations but ignore that conservatives do everything in their power
to deflect corporate tax burden, laws, regulations and accountability. Here is yet another example
for you to learn a lesson in modern history instead of referencing history from 100 years ago that
scantly means jack squat 100 years later. Conservatives have morphed into plutocrats and
raising taxes on the poorest people is a prime example showing that they are for the plutocracy
and corporations, above people.

3. The 99% protests against conservative ideas that dictate the majority of people should be
subservient to the masters of the universe. Like raising taxes on poor people

Originally posted by thepresident

1.Some weeks I make less than minimum wage.

You make LESS than the minimum wage and you have a computer and internet?... Really?... hummm...

Originally posted by thepresident
2.You are talking about corporations but ignore that conservatives do everything in their power
to deflect corporate tax burden, laws, regulations and accountability. Here is yet another example
for you to learn a lesson in modern history instead of referencing history from 100 years ago that
scantly means jack squat 100 years later. Conservatives have morphed into plutocrats and
raising taxes on the poorest people is a prime example showing that they are for the plutocracy
and corporations, above people.

Let me give you, or refresh, the true history a bit more since you seem to be confused about the facts.

First, it was because of the LEFT that the BANKER ELITES aka/the Federal Reserve has taken control of the economy of the U.S.A. since 1913, and corrupted the same economy which has been helping corporations become monopolies TO THIS DAY, and which TO THIS DAY is in great part the reason why we are TO THIS DAY in this mess...

Second, neocons were originally LEFTWINGERS who changed parties to help corrupt the ORIGINAL PARTY OF THE PEOPLE aka/ the Republican Party, and which alongside the Feds/aka the BANKER ELITES bought off the mayority of the Republicans in office thanks to the corruption opened by the LEFT since 1913 TO THIS DAY...

An evil man said one day... “Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws."

That evil man was named Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild.

One of the EVIL men with power who funded the Bolshevik revolution and other LEFTWING revolutions around the world...

So, who allowed for the total corruption of the political process, and allowed also the corruption of the economy not only of the U.S.A. but of the entire world?... THE LEFT...

Are men and women from ALL political parties in this day and age guilty of association? Sure we all are for not doing enough as a people to stop this.

But what are the solutions being given by the GLOBAL BANKER ELITES and which many people are falling for?... More LEFTWING solutions... The same type of solution that got us in this mess we are in and which will convert every child, woman and man in a total and real slave to the global SOCIALIST/FASCIST banker elites and their associates...

How do you like them apples now?

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by grey580


Yes.


Anything else you want to say?

Ah, so you are a supporter of Obama and just posted this dribble, and the lies to TRY to cruxify Republicans and for the re-election of Obama?...

Yep...I guess that's all I have to say...

edit on 1-8-2012 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

I support the Democratic party.
Obama.. not much.

And I don't need to crucify the Republicans. They do that job themselves alot better than I can.

What I can't stand are hypocritical supposedly moral conservatives outspending most democrats and then doing un christian like things while in office.

I would like to change parties and be a Republican. But I can't in good conscience do so as long as the right wing conservatives are in the party. Because they are a bunch of hypocritical bastards.

reply to post by grey580


Haha, you think all of these problems can be solved with selective taxes? You actually believe that we can fix poverty and government debt just by taxing the rich?

Hahahahahahahaha.

reply to post by grey580


First, you should read my other responses in this post.

Second, that link you gave is an un-official site supporting Obama.

Third, some of us including myself have proven that the claims made in that link are a lie.

Fourth, this Republican bill is not going to affect AMERICAN legal citizens, or legal residents, even if they are poor.

Fifth, the reason why we are in this mess is because of PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS/the LEFT...

But you still believe all these lies and would not vote Republican, as in voting for Ron Paul?...