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Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
“We are not illegitimate children,” (ouch!)
If that was directed at me then sorry I don't give scripture much credit. I am an atheist so your gonna have to come from the other direction.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by daskakik
That it means nothing to you doesn't mean that it (the Great Work) has no meaning.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by daskakik
If you can't see it by now, then my distilling it into a small pearl for you to attack and refut as a self-professed atheist, won't add any value to this thread, never mind to the meaning, purpose and value of the Great Work as it may apply to others. I'm sorry can't help you there I don't think, and to "get it" one WOULD need to re-read the Gospels with an open mind for further understanding, which this thread can help to unlock for those who are willing to conduct a new investigation, free from any sort of contemptuous bais or preconception.
By now I've said just about everything there is to say, and now I'm wasting valuable time and energy.
You've already made up your mind anyway, so why are you even here to begin with?
I've gone to great lengths and efforts to put forward a lot of content here, and my intention is and has been entirely genuine and sincere. Read it, and gather from it what you will, or move on, but I won't be baited by disingenuous inquiries by atheists who have no intention whatsoever to even begin to try to understand what this thread is all about or what I've tried to convey in so many words, pics, vids and posts. Enough's enough.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by NewAgeMan
"How did he know?!"
because what he is,,,is what knowing is....
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by NewAgeMan
Jesus Christ's Superderterministic, Cosmological, Magnum Opus
I would respond to this with irrefutable, scientific, rational logic, but I don't even know what it means!
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by jiggerj
Good question!
Magnum Opus, means Great Work, in this case as the culmination of the efforts of many over a very longg period, to realize an ideal of perfection, and complete the process in it's final realization.
Cosmological, is fairly self explanaatory and means of cosmic proportions, or universal.
Superdeterminism, I'm using that in a different sense from the standard quantum physics model term, which is used to invalidate Bell's Theorem showing transluminal interconnectedness or what Einstein and others called "spooky action at a distance", to mean, in this case - already established, from a first/last cause in eternity, or simply put, something that was inevitable, because it's eventuality was already imbedded, by design, into the creation, such that it could only arise, and be seen as having arisen, as a result of a creative intent, and a level of foreknowledge and high precision design-control, that can only have initiated already with the end in mind, from the very beginning, including, by extension, the formation of the entire universe itself, with earth and the human being included as an integral part of the big BIG picture, if you will, even yes as a cosmic, evolutionary process. The point where God catches up with himself in the person of the son of God etering the scene to complete the previously "unfinished business", left only for he himself to complete. So a marker was left, in the divine order of creation by which Jesus was recognized by the Magi, and came to recognize himself as having a very special task to perform - his Great Work aka Magnum Opus, which has now been established (from a whole host of angles and perspective, including astronomical vectors) at a point in time and history, which for all due purposes and in the grand scheme of things might well have happened yesterday as it did about 2000 years ago.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
~ Revelation 22:13
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by daskakik
It's too late for this. If you haven't seen anything meaningful or of value to you presented in this thread, then sorry I couldn't help you to see and consider something you might not have otherwise seen or considered, before. It's not everyone's cup of tea, and that's fine, but please don't accuse me of not having tried or put forth the effort. I even said from the outset that for some, what would be presented in this thread wouldn't make any sense and that it wouldn't compute for them, because it really does require a truly open mind, and "atheist" doesn't qualify as an open mind.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by daskakik
No I was only your implication of John being of God and Jesus, Satan, of John leading people to heaven and Jesus, to hell, which I felt was um, going a little too far, perhaps... in the interpretation of daVinci's work, particularly when framed within the context by which these people are presented to us, through the Gospels and the prophetic framework of the Bible, which implies no such thing at all. Only did I think that that bordered on the blasphemous.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by daskakik
That's not what this thread is about, which is about what might be thought of as the capstone of all the spiritual and religious traditions and philosophies, at whose core and heart, resides the final resolution to the age old problem of human sin/evil,
including the opening up for us of a whole new domain of absolute freedom/liberation and eternal life and new creation, as the very fount of God's love which is eternal and can never die - handed to us free of charge (I was going to say on a silver platter, but I don't want John losing his head again).
Originally posted by daskakikThe fact that you believe that this "problem" even exists makes me doubt your claim to enlightenment and truth.
Originally posted by daskakik
I have yet to see god or feel his love but I have seen and felt things which I did and, I guess others could mistake for these things. This is how I suppose different religions came about and the reason why I say that there isn't just one path.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by NewAgeMan
1) Do you believe there may be life on other planets?
2) if so, do you believe jesus pops up on all those planets?
3) do you believe god has the same grand plans for all these planets of life forms?