John Moore Nibiru updates - can you afford to ignore this?

It's really not even worth debunking stuff like this to be honest. Just a waste of time.

It's obvious all the videos / pictures are not rogue planets - they are sundogs, the black anomaly created by taking a direct picture of the sun with a digital camera, reflections (on glass, on clouds, etc.). It's also obvious that an ancient culture who thought the planets and sun were deities didn't have advanced knowledge of a brown dwarf or whatever supposed floating around our solar system.

It's mostly not worth it because when nothing happens later this year.. and I guarantee nothing will happen.. they will revise their dates and continue with their doom propaganda. "omg.. we didn't take into account this odd hieroglyphic on a wall and it means it is happening in 2014 omg be ready!" And then it starts all over again. Waste..of.. time.

reply to post by TWILITE22

What isn't normal is having the same people coming into these threads and others and acting as though everything is ok and we should trust everyone in science and government to trust their word as gospel is ludicris.

I find it abnormal when people push an agenda such as Nibiru when even basic science tells us it does not exist. I find it abnormal that people say the government and science cannot be trusted at all. There are those that have faked their data in science. They will get caught. They do and are expelled. Nitwits like Sitchin are praised by some for telling lies. They were trivially caught and have been expelled.

On the other hand I find it sad that people do not understand simple issues such as light reflecting and gravity works along the line between 2 masses and all mass including our bodies exhibit gravity and can't tell the difference between something real and a camera artifact.

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
John sounds like a reasonable guy, his main point on Nibiru is this:

He hopes it isn't true, but he cannot afford to ignore it.

If this is not true, and he looks like a fool, he would take that over it being true, and not taking the chance to warn people.

He also says this - treat this as an exercise - a chance to practice your bug out preparations.

Many say people would have seen this by now. Many have. However there is a national security directive for all government employees including scientists not to talk about this.

People say you can see Jupiter, Saturn, Mars or Venus with the naked eye - why can't we see Nibiru/Planet X? Well, Nibiru gives off light in the infrared spectrum, like billion of other objects in our universe, and is almost impossible to see with the naked eye, especially coming at us from out of the Sun.

Why do you think Obama invoked the National Communications Executive order of last week? They want to be able to control the internet when people soon be able to see this with their own eyes.

Why wouldn't the government warn people? Well, this is the way they see it:

A) Planet X's passing will just cause some high-tides and earthquakes and life for the most part will go on as usual - so there is no point in panicking people.

B) Planet X's passing will cause major tectonic/climactic upheavals on the planet and kill about 95% of the world's population - and warning people now would not change that - so there is no point in panicking people.

What do you have to lose by doing some research or basic preparations? What is the agenda of those who would have you ignore this or do nothing?

Here is today's video, and you can check the youtube video for recent shows:

Here is the youtube channel which has recent shows:

www.youtube.com...

Good luck to all.

If catastrophe comes to pass, the only thing you will have left (if you are not prepared) is your spirit. Many powers want us in fear, divided against our fellow man. Fight that, be united, and help your fellow man where possible.

What is being described in this audio stream is not Nemesis & Nibiru, but a pre-cursor of what is to come and the continuation of events for the next 2 years. We are in very high danger !

reply to post by Labrynth2012

What is being described in this audio stream is not Nemesis & Nibiru, but a pre-cursor of what is to come and the continuation of events for the next 2 years. We are in very high danger !

In danger of what? Is it a backsliding of education that you fear?

Moore is a charlatan. He fakes his data. He claims that repeatedly people in the know divulge information to him over a casual lunch that could result in criminal penalties and probable jail time. The one thing Moore counts on is that his audience is dumber than a bucket of bovine excrement. His success shows that he has such an audience.

He still claims the Gulf Stream stopped. He claims an unknown planet is about to be revealed close to Earth. I personally know no one that would fall for his stories. Kids in third grade around here know enough to check such tales. They would not be duped.

Science does not say something like this does not exist. And I don't have to trust the wolves who have murdered so many people and ruthlessly harmed so much nature. In fact I could consider them to be psychopathic liars and be very logical and reasonable in drawing conclusion, in fact consider it very irresponsible to not draw that conclusion.

This is rather interesting read:

www.conservapedia.com...

Scratch that part, don't even know what year the songs are for the olympics. I am refusing to follow this fanfare anyway, never mind the coding for the olympic, as its all circus and games while the world is straving. Don't agree with even the premise of such a thing.

1984 reminds me of something else though, La violette's work.

www.etheric.com...

reply to post by Unity_99

Science does not say something like this does not exist.

Science makes it abundantly clear that you can't have a planet entering the orbits of the known planets without disrupting the planets to the point of ending life on Earth.

You linked to Nemesis. That idea has been dropped for a number of reasons. One of the reasons is that a highly eccentric orbit is not stable.

Tyche and other hypothesized planets that do not come close to the Sun might exist, but they will always stay far away.

reply to post by stereologist


Do you know what nibiru is? If so please do tell. Some of us are guessing, Jupiter, Venus, a Craft ,a moon from Tyche, Tyche. Oh is Tyche Wormwood?

I don't really think science has a handle on nibiru too well, or most posters for that matter either.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by Phage
Jupiter only "gives off" light in infrared. So does Saturn, Mars, and Venus. We can see them because they reflect the visible light of the Sun.

But Nibiru doesn't give off light in infrared, nor does it reflect the light of the Sun. Nibiru does not exist.

So no objects in the universe absorb reflected light?

So you are saying it both absorbs and reflects light?

How can that be?

Oh, that's right, it can't.

edit on 7/25/2012 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)

Never took chemistry? different wavelengths can be absorbed while the rest is reflected. Its why we can use "absortion spectrum" to tell what elements a compound consists of. I.e"Sodium" only absorbs certain lines( frequencies) in the spectrum; it reflects the rest.The missing(absorbed) wavelengths show up as dark lines where light should be in the visible spectrum .

There is no fookin' "nibiru"..or Double sun. We had perfect overcast conditions at sunset Wednesday evening.The sun was a single perfectly circular orange disk..no otherobjects inline or any where near.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by stereologist

 

Do you know what nibiru is? If so please do tell. Some of us are guessing, Jupiter, Venus, a Craft ,a moon from Tyche, Tyche. Oh is Tyche Wormwood?

I don't really think science has a handle on nibiru too well, or most posters for that matter either.

Nibiru, in this discussion is supposed to be a (Brown dwarf Star/Rogue planet that only emits IR and no one can see/insert your own ridiculous thing here.) that is going to impact the Earth in less than 5 months and knock the planet on it's side killing most everyone. There's no mistaking what people think Nibiru is, so to make a statement like that is almost like saying that coffee is made from Cacao beans because nobody has a handle on it..

It is without a doubt the most insane and well stupid theory to ever hit the internet. Kids have committed suicide because of the fear-mongering, and people are being well, twits about it... It has to be because some document that has never been allowed to be examined says it is, oh yeah and we have mistranslations and conjecture as well..

Unity, sorry, but that post is rather offensive, it was put out early on what the OP was referring to and exactly what they meant by Nibiru... There is no mistaking it....

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Vkey08 stated my position better than I could have. I would add that this appeared to be another move the goal posts attempt.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by stereologist

 

Do you know what nibiru is? If so please do tell. Some of us are guessing, Jupiter, Venus, a Craft ,a moon from Tyche, Tyche. Oh is Tyche Wormwood?

I don't really think science has a handle on nibiru too well, or most posters for that matter either.

So, using your logic, Eris could have been Nibiru? If so, then the Nibiru legend is much ado about nothing.

Originally posted by TWILITE22

I'm not sure if there is a planet Nibiru or not but it make me suspicious the way the same people come into these threads not debate but to convince you it's not out there.So saying you all do it to save peoples lives is laughable to me to be honest,I seriously don't think that is the reason. I wouldn't have given it a second thought before but now I'm not so sure...

Whatever the reason... have fun debating

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edit on 27-7-2012 by TWILITE22 because: (no reason given)

Isn't a debate supposed to involve opposing viewpoints?
What about the same people that come into these threads to convince you it's out there. Some of them claim to want to warn people and save lives. You suspicious of them too?
Problem is one side points to questionable websites and even more questionable youtubes as proof.
Other side has science and logic.
I know which side I'm on.

Originally posted by Labrynth2012

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE


Here is today's video, and you can check the youtube video for recent shows:

What is being described in this audio stream is not Nemesis & Nibiru, but a pre-cursor of what is to come and the continuation of events for the next 2 years. We are in very high danger !

Oh here we go. "pre-cursor" and "events for the next 2 years"

The goal posts are already being moved.

Wise move considering.

At least the true followers of Sitchin come right out and and say that Nibiru isn't going to be here anytime soon, that it's not suppose to be here until 2900 AD (at least that's what he predicted in his book End Of Days, as he said it was last here in 556 BC.......funny......the Romans never mentioned it.....or the Greeks.....).

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


The way of thinking as for the reason for keeping people in the dark are extremely displeased, even if people are generically idiots they will never accept being explicitly treated like ones.

Examples of this is the buildup of protest against the status quo of things like the Kennedys' assassinations, 9/11, the criminal way the US establish Causus belis even the ET question, there is a solid even if far from mainstream movement to get clarification on these and other subjects. Not necessarily asking for recognition but to a proper and open investigation and criminalization of those acting against the law and that willingly acted against public interests.

So I do not buy into the "keep them stupid for their own interests", the reality is "keep them stupid for our own interests". I do not see any good done by the first preposition and I can even empathize with the second taking in account the reality we live on.

Originally posted by phantomjack

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Dizrael

 

we dont know if it exists

We do know it does not exist. If it did, we would not be here.
Nibiru + Earth in it's present orbit = nope.

edit on 7/25/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

The Exodus was Planet X's/Nibirus last pass, many plants, animals and people survived that.

I did this exercise myself last year. Run the 3600 year "event" cycle back through history. If there is anything to the Nibiru claim, you will be shocked to find that there is a pattern of historical / worldly events that occurs ever 3500 to 3600 years. Exodus was one of them. Go back further. 3600 years prior to Exodus was the "great flood" and prior to that? Keep going....find it. 3600 years before the flood? ATLANTIS.

It is suspiciously odd...and aligns perfectly with your claim.

edit on 26-7-2012 by phantomjack because: (no reason given)

You are having a laugh aren't you? You do know that Atlantis didn't actually exist don't you? What was that about keeping to one fringe topic at a time............

I don't get what all the arguing is about in this thread. Graham Hancock covered this all very neatly in "The Mars Mystery". Nibiru isn't a planet, or a star. It is a comet, or more likely at this point a group of comets, that intersects our system every once in a while to great detriment to anything in their way. This is what destroyed Mars, literally knocked half the crust off along with a thriving atmosphere full of life. Nothing in Hancock's book is outrageous or even a stretch - the warnings we have been given by the ancients are about the next time this deadly comet or pieces thereof return. They don't have to hit us, not big chunks anyway.

I suggest everyone interested in this subject read the book, it is eye opening stuff and implicates NASA and governments as being part of a coverup of this knowledge from a long, long time ago. His book "Fingerprints of the Gods" is also good stuff, covering the survivors of the Mars disaster and how they spread their knowledge to the early civilizations here on Earth.

I kinda doubt anything is coming this way any time in the next few months, or possibly thousands of years, but it will come someday. In the meantime we have problems just as serious to worry about, as our debt monster nips at the heels of a teetering 600 Trillion dollar derivatives bubble and the power players on Earth jockey to control what will survive an inevitable Crash of everything we hold near and dear. Never mind stockpiling beans and bullets for Nibiru, worry about the day that the banks all shut down and global martial law is imposed as a permanent state. Don't worry, they will allow you to hand in your firearms for food ration coupons at the nearest military cordon...

Originally posted by welshreduk
I often hear how "Nibiru" means "crossing" or "point of transition" so could it be that the word Nibiru was taken out of context and actually simply means the Earth/Solar System "crossing" or " transitioning" the galactic plane or something like that rather than referring to a planet?

Yes I think Nibiru is our own sun, and when we get to the"point of transition" it gives off a big burp lol and wipes out things on earth maybe maybe not but sounds good anyway lol....

reply to post by something wicked

You do know that Atlantis didn't actually exist don't you?

And you would know this how?

Let me take a few guesses,

1. You have been reincarnated and your past life was during the time that Atlantis was supposed to have existed.

2. You have channeled spirit entities and they told you Atlantis never existed.

3. You were abducted by aliens and they programmed your mind with the entire history of our planet.

4. You are a member of an elite ruling bloodline and hold secret knowledge unavailable to the rest of humanity.

5. You're smarter than everybody and have never ever been wrong.

that pic is epic.

Yea,great Photoshop

reply to post by Unity_99

Science does not say something like this does not exist. And I don't have to trust the wolves who have murdered so many people and ruthlessly harmed so much nature. In fact I could consider them to be psychopathic liars and be very logical and reasonable in drawing conclusion, in fact consider it very irresponsible to not draw that conclusion.

Speaking of psychopathic liars, let's see what the quality of scientific knowledge is at "Conservapedia: The Trustworthy Encyclopedia":

People disagree about when and how the Earth was created. The three most popular ideas are:
That God did not make the Earth several hundred generations ago, as recounted in Genesis. By adding years and other time indications in the Old Testament chronologies, one can calculate the age of the Earth as approximately 6,000 years (see Date of creation and Young Earth Creationism).
That God did not make the Earth billions of years ago (see Old Earth Creationism and Theistic Evolution).
That the Earth came into existence billions of years ago (approximately 4.5 billion years in modern estimates), entirely through natural processes and without any intervention by God.
Clashes between adherents of these ideas have gone on since time immemorial (see origins debate), though the last theory has only matured in the last 200 years.

www.conservapedia.com...

Oh, and you might be interested in this part of their diatribe, er, article, on evolution:

Evolutionary belief, irreligion, extraterrestial life, UFOlogy and other pseudoscience
See also: Irreligion and superstition
The notions of extraterrestrial life and UFOlogy are fast growing pseudoscientific religions which are perpetuated and/or aided by the ideologies of evolutionists, atheists, liberals and other promoters of quackery.[288][289] However, the ideologies of extraterrestrial life, UFOlogy, exobiology, evolution and abiogenesis are anti-biblical ideas which are not supported by sound science.[290][291]
The liberal and agnostic Carl Sagan, an avid smoker of marijuana who claimed that marijuana gave him scientific insights, was a prominent peddler of extraterrestial life, evolution and other pseudoscientific nonsense. Sagan's agnosticism and avid marijuana smoking no doubt helped inspire Sagan's pseudoscientific fantasy that evolution was a "fact".[292]

www.conservapedia.com...

You just can't make this stuff up.