The gay agenda and why it bothers me: An analogy

reply to post by King_John


You are missing the point and I can't go on all day.
Just as women marched and formed groups, and blacks marched in protest and spoke out, gay people do the same thing in their own way. You are making way too big of a deal out of gay parades. Irish people have parades too. Who cares?
Seriously? It's in no way counter productive.

They goof off for an hour and walk down the street then they go back to their normal boring lives.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

Hey.. what's that supposed to mean. If/when I decide to have kids they will be raised completely unprejudiced and I won't be forcing them to be anyone that isn't themselves.

LOL it was supposed to be a joke.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


I assumed. My "hey.. what's that supposed to mean" was only half sincere. That's why I went with the cliche.

Originally posted by King_John

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by King_John

 

I don't see you complaining about guys who kiss their girlfriends in public. A little biased, are we?

I said I'm NOT talking about showing public affection, granted I do think the idea of two men kissing is disgusting but hey whatever they want to do that's on them. I'm talking about the attitude and mentality of "Here I am, I'm gay and proud look at me." Flaunting your sexual orientation in public with loud and obnoxious attitude is what annoys me.

Can you give a specific example of what you are talking about? Are you talking only about gay pride parades? I have been friends with gays for 25 years. I live in a fairly large city (and a pretty liberal one at that). I am 52 years old, and I have traveled a fair amount. I have never even seen a gay pride parade, so I don't think gay parades are shoved down our throats everyday. What ARE you talking about, exactly?

Originally posted by Dhimmie

Originally posted by arpgme

Originally posted by Dhimmie
If being gay is really natural and normal....... How many posters here are 'normal'.... I must be abnormal as I only find women sexually attractive.

Logical fallacy: Just because being "gay" is natural, doesn't mean that being "straight" isn't. So no, it doesn't meant that you are "abnormal".

Originally posted by Dhimmie
If it is about equality as it is sold as, where is 'straight pride', where are the groups for straight people only that are accepted by society????

Straights are the majority and they were never prosecuted just for being straight so why would they need pride? Where were the challenges just for being straight? There were none. Straight have killed gays. It is fair that gays can at least get equal rights and have a day to be positive and love themselves after all of that.

So if my lady and I were in a room of gays, we would be the minority and should be able to make a big deal out of it and expect the gays in the room make make extra allowances for us.... Go to a full on gay bar and see where snogging your woman at the bar gets you.

Like if I was born in Africa it would therefore be impossible for me to be racist to black people as they are the majority (by quite some margin I might add) and therefore only I would need protecting from racism with 'white only support groups'......



Riiiiight.... So clear now.......

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edit on 24-7-2012 by Dhimmie because: love

So youve been to a full on gay bar and snogged your woman, wow i just realized by the way you write not only are afraid of men you seem to be afraid of women and are some what of a womanizer. this is just my opinion from the way you express yourself, sorry if im wrong or if i offend.

Originally posted by InhaleExhale

Originally posted by trollz

Originally posted by buster2010
Homosexuality is part of nature so why should it hidden? The reason why homosexuality is hated so much is because of the religious dogma that has been forced on us since birth.

I might remind you that humans are physically designed to mate with those of the opposite sex, not the same sex. This is why males have male genitalia and females have female genitalia. So no, homosexuality is not part of nature, it's a corruption of nature that everyone is trying to pass off as natural and normal. I consider it to be a socially-accepted mental illness.

All hail the designer/creator of the human race for they know whats natural and whats not.

A socially accepted mental illness, just as bigotry is a socially accepted mental illness, well actually bigotry is more of mental illness because that is how one thinks yet being Gay to me is a physical thing so im not sure about that actually being in a persons head as much as hating what a people do in the privacy of their own homes.

A mental illness is so called because a person does things which struggle to allow them to fit into society, like Tourette syndrome for example. This is where people use violent and abusive language without being able to stop it, google it for some great vids This mental illness is not accepted by society even though almost every rap song which ever got in the top 100 is littered with such language.
If you are gay you have sex with members of the same sex for what you consider 'natural' (or if you are smart you admit it is not natural) pleasure. Society is changing via the powers that be so the next generation will consider gayness normal.
Why can't Tourette syndrome suffers be given the same equality...... Which is more 'normal'.... Using bad words innocently due to a mental illness or having full blown sexual intercourse with members of the same sex?

They are both as a result of the mind to a large degree, one is accepted or acceptance is being forced on us and the other is not accepted......

But I tell this..... If politics and Hollywood was littered with Tourette syndrome sufferers.... There would be a 'Tourette syndrome' agenda too.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by King_John

 

I think it's counterproductive, if gay people want to be seen as equal and the same as everybody else, making a huge deal and celebration about how you're different and special because you're gay is the complete wrong way to go about it imo.

So...hide who you are? Okay, you're not allowed to even look at chicks (or guys) anymore. You cannot display a single facet of your sexuality. In fact, forget having a public personality period.

You might offend someone, and that would cost you your rights.

There's a difference between hiding and not flaunting and making a huge show of it. Riding down the street in floats wearing skimpy outfits making a huge deal of your sexual orientation does what exactly? Why be proud to be gay? You should take pride in your accomplishments and achievements not something that you have no control over.

Originally posted by InhaleExhale

Originally posted by Dhimmie

Originally posted by arpgme

Originally posted by Dhimmie
If being gay is really natural and normal....... How many posters here are 'normal'.... I must be abnormal as I only find women sexually attractive.

Logical fallacy: Just because being "gay" is natural, doesn't mean that being "straight" isn't. So no, it doesn't meant that you are "abnormal".

Originally posted by Dhimmie
If it is about equality as it is sold as, where is 'straight pride', where are the groups for straight people only that are accepted by society????

Straights are the majority and they were never prosecuted just for being straight so why would they need pride? Where were the challenges just for being straight? There were none. Straight have killed gays. It is fair that gays can at least get equal rights and have a day to be positive and love themselves after all of that.

So if my lady and I were in a room of gays, we would be the minority and should be able to make a big deal out of it and expect the gays in the room make make extra allowances for us.... Go to a full on gay bar and see where snogging your woman at the bar gets you.

Like if I was born in Africa it would therefore be impossible for me to be racist to black people as they are the majority (by quite some margin I might add) and therefore only I would need protecting from racism with 'white only support groups'......



Riiiiight.... So clear now.......

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edit on 24-7-2012 by Dhimmie because: love

So youve been to a full on gay bar and snogged your woman, wow i just realized by the way you write not only are afraid of men you seem to be afraid of women and are some what of a womanizer. this is just my opinion from the way you express yourself, sorry if im wrong or if i offend.

Yes I have done that. It was at the Golden Lion in Walsall, England and we were told to stop it or leave.
The rest of your response is predictable rhetoric and doesn't bother me

Originally posted by King_John

I'm not even talking about showing public affection, I'm talking about being openly flamboyant, loud and obnoxious in public. Why show off your sexual orientation in public?

Yeah - well - I live in Arizona.

Got a lot of Rush wannabe's that are loud and obnoxious in public.

Flamboyant? Depends on how you define that. Flashing their guns and machoism can be very flamboyant.

reply to post by Dhimmie


So you expect to kiss your woman at a gay bar, but gays can't kiss their lovers at a regular bar?

Wow, the equality is astonishing.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by King_John

 

You are missing the point and I can't go on all day.
Just as women marched and formed groups, and blacks marched in protest and spoke out, gay people do the same thing in their own way. You are making way too big of a deal out of gay parades. Irish people have parades too. Who cares?
Seriously? It's in no way counter productive.

They goof off for an hour and walk down the street then they go back to their normal boring lives.

edit on 24-7-2012 by GogoVicMorrow because: (no reason given)

Woman and Blacks marched in protested for a cause, they didn't throw extravagant parades to rub their race or sex in men or white people's faces, that would have done them no good, just like it's doing gay people no good in their fight for equality.

double post

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Dhimmie

 

Racism IS a part of our nature. People are naturally racist, the thing is we are reasoning beings and we can see how the more prevalent racism is ignorant and that all racism creates in a modern society is negativity. Just as we should let all races be equal because we have no control over our race, we should also let homosexuals be because they have no control over their sexuality.

Also many people are openly racist.. ever heard of the KKK? New Black Panthers? They are all ignorant, but they still have a right to their opinions.

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Spot on Sir, Racism is a part of our nature as we all give these false labels to let each other know which country we were born in. And then fight wars because of invisible borders when in actuality we are just 1 race, the human race, this is my belief and until someone can logically show me why the colour of skin matters i'll keep believing in my 1 Race, the human race from the land we call earth.

reply to post by AfterInfinity



I never said anything about gays kissing in straight bars, stay on topic please.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by King_John

I'm not even talking about showing public affection, I'm talking about being openly flamboyant, loud and obnoxious in public. Why show off your sexual orientation in public?

Yeah - well - I live in Arizona.

Got a lot of Rush wannabe's that are loud and obnoxious in public.

Flamboyant? Depends on how you define that. Flashing their guns and machoism can be very flamboyant.

Yeah and they're annoying as hell right? Same with loud, obnoxious and flamboyant gays.

Originally posted by King_John

There's a difference between hiding and not flaunting and making a huge show of it. Riding down the street in floats wearing skimpy outfits making a huge deal of your sexual orientation does what exactly? Why be proud to be gay? You should take pride in your accomplishments and achievements not something that you have no control over.

You don't like gay pride parades because you don't like gays. Only a small segment of gays even participate in those parades. But you focus on the gay pride parades, because that's your best argument for forcing all gays back into the closet.

reply to post by King_John


So let's take the macho rights away. That's what we're doing, right? If we don't like someone, we take away their rights. Even though that's unconstitutional and would be overthrown by the Supreme Court.

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by King_John

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by King_John

 

I don't see you complaining about guys who kiss their girlfriends in public. A little biased, are we?

I said I'm NOT talking about showing public affection, granted I do think the idea of two men kissing is disgusting but hey whatever they want to do that's on them. I'm talking about the attitude and mentality of "Here I am, I'm gay and proud look at me." Flaunting your sexual orientation in public with loud and obnoxious attitude is what annoys me.

Can you give a specific example of what you are talking about? Are you talking only about gay pride parades? I have been friends with gays for 25 years. I live in a fairly large city (and a pretty liberal one at that). I am 52 years old, and I have traveled a fair amount. I have never even seen a gay pride parade, so I don't think gay parades are shoved down our throats everyday. What ARE you talking about, exactly?

Not specifically Gay Pride parades, although they are part of it. I'm more talking about acting like a stereotypical flamboyant homosexual in public drawing attention to themselves and flaunting their sexual orientation.

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by King_John

There's a difference between hiding and not flaunting and making a huge show of it. Riding down the street in floats wearing skimpy outfits making a huge deal of your sexual orientation does what exactly? Why be proud to be gay? You should take pride in your accomplishments and achievements not something that you have no control over.

You don't like gay pride parades because you don't like gays. Only a small segment of gays even participate in those parades. But you focus on the gay pride parades, because that's your best argument for forcing all gays back into the closet.

He obviously didn't mean that, you are an extremist

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by King_John

 

So let's take the macho rights away. That's what we're doing, right? If we don't like someone, we take away their rights. Even though that's unconstitutional and would be overthrown by the Supreme Court.

Who said anything about taking people's rights away? I've said I have no problem with gays marring or having any of the same rights straight people do.