A Question For Abductees.....GPS?

reply to post by n120by60w




Off-topic:

Are you and/or wife still being taken? If not, when (do you think) it stopped? Did you know these other people in this 'group' you speak about? If so, did you all collectively, ever discuss your experience?

Thanks

reply to post by Human_Alien


Yet, at the same time, the same people will be the first to oooo and ahhh and talk about some super secret underground base in Dulce, New Mexico where people are supposedly taken for experiments.

Hmmm. Dulce, New Mexico. Sounds like Earth to me.

Oh, there are suppose to other super secret underground bases infested with aliens where people get taken too?

Hmmm. Doesn't sound like some other bizzarro pine needle gland vibrational chakra zulu third eye crystal being of light kinda place to me if some of these supposed places that are rumored to exist are simply underground bases here on earth, now, in this dimension.

Thus, on the off chance that such places do exist, unless you want to confess to knowing that they're really just another fraudulent fabricated fantasy out of the ufology circus, wouldn't it seem logical that if some people taken to these places for experimentation just might, maybe, possibly, perhaps, on a small chance be repeat abductees?
Would it be possible if it were a fairly standard practice for abduction experiencers to wear GPS monitoring that data collected from some, of only a few, abduction experiences might overlap with other data collected by other abductees to validate suspicions of abduction to some of these supposed secret underground places?

Do you see the logical path of inquiry here?

Originally posted by HomerinNC
reply to post by Druscilla

 

What they should do is fit an abductee with one of those ankle bracelet gps devices, like they use on sex offenders

Id be willing to give this a go, though you would have to bling it up a bit, i like shiny things
the only problem i see is having to wear it for 12 months or so, If i recall properly my last visitation was around may or april this year, i dont think ive seen them since.

love and harmony
Whateva

Originally posted by SadieJane
I would request that people receiving multiple abductions and/or visitations set up night vision video cameras.

Especially if you know that activity takes place while you are in bed, at night.
Set equipment to record appropriate area.

Then come back and share footage.

edit on 7/21/2012 by SadieJane because: additional line of comment / post

my husband and i have talked about this, though we are a low income family it would be imposable to purchase.
i even thought about using the laptop, but i dont know how to use record and save the footage. i should read up on it and if things pick up ill be able to do it, and see what we get.

love and harmony
Whateva

Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Yet, at the same time, the same people will be the first to oooo and ahhh and talk about some super secret underground base in Dulce, New Mexico where people are supposedly taken for experiments.

Hmmm. Dulce, New Mexico. Sounds like Earth to me.

Oh, there are suppose to other super secret underground bases infested with aliens where people get taken too?

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Do you see the logical path of inquiry here?

Logic can only be proved by real action.

I see you are looking for truth that you can hold.
Are you near Dulce?

Do your homework....
Locate and goto what you suspect as a "true" entrance to the complex.

Quickly scoop up a hand full of soil and then get the hell out of there.

Have a cheep simple microscope handy and Zap me a message with both in hand.

Sometimes things are hidden right under our nose's.

I hope your venting would be just that venting and frustration.
Not intolerance and close mindedness.
I don't really see that in you.
I see a you person convinced that we in the technical realm have a good handle on things.

I was the same person 30 seconds as you before my abduction while stationed at Holloman.

I trained fighter pilots, astronauts and worked in electronics.
I was trained in air traffic control, electronics, weather, aircraft characteristics & flight simulator instruction.
Yet the abduction experience rocked my world.
Unhinging reality as I understood it as a 20'ish year old.

Things are black and white in your teens and 20s.

Respectfully, I answer yours questions.
The risk in doing so is mine not yours.

Some abductees pay an actual cost for responding to people.
This site has cost me 100's of dollars rebuilding my PC after data bombs were sent to me.
I have been bumped very hard with threats to my well being.
Yet I stand here reflecting my search for the truth so you to can evaluate your reality.

Hopefully you can avoid the pitfalls that be fell us and carry on the torch.
The truth and only the truth is what the public deserves.
You included.

Be open and show some respect for others,

Watcher

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Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Would it be possible if it were a fairly standard practice for abduction experiencers to wear GPS monitoring that data collected from some, of only a few, abduction experiences might overlap with other data collected by other abductees to validate suspicions of abduction to some of these supposed secret underground places?

It should be standard, but I am not sure you would get any information considering, at a place like Dulce, you're stripped down and have bio-metric scans taken of your body and they also weigh you before and after your quant little "visit" there. So, even if you were chipped with GPS or had some kind of tracking system, they would find it and destroy/remove it.

-SAP-

EDIT: That's simply for Dulce and other DUMBs though. Might be different for different types of ETs. Just my opinion.

Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Yet, at the same time, the same people will be the first to oooo and ahhh and talk about some super secret underground base in Dulce, New Mexico where people are supposedly taken for experiments.

Hmmm. Dulce, New Mexico. Sounds like Earth to me.

Oh, there are suppose to other super secret underground bases infested with aliens where people get taken too?

Hmmm. Doesn't sound like some other bizzarro pine needle gland vibrational chakra zulu third eye crystal being of light kinda place to me if some of these supposed places that are rumored to exist are simply underground bases here on earth, now, in this dimension.

Thus, on the off chance that such places do exist, unless you want to confess to knowing that they're really just another fraudulent fabricated fantasy out of the ufology circus, wouldn't it seem logical that if some people taken to these places for experimentation just might, maybe, possibly, perhaps, on a small chance be repeat abductees?
Would it be possible if it were a fairly standard practice for abduction experiencers to wear GPS monitoring that data collected from some, of only a few, abduction experiences might overlap with other data collected by other abductees to validate suspicions of abduction to some of these supposed secret underground places?

Do you see the logical path of inquiry here?

First you must realize, we're not sharing our experiences to quench your personal thirst. If it doesn't bode well with you then, move on. No need to (try to) ridicule others because YOU don't believe us. That's on you. Not us. Perhaps this forum isn't cut out for you? Or....if you do question something, do just THAT. Question it. Don't attack it.

Our experiences are unbelievable. Many of us don't understand them ourselves. What would you like us to do?......make up stories that are more believable? ....or, do you want the truth?

Dulce underground base(s) is/are is a very real place.
There is at least one group of non-human Beings living underground.

Why and where do you think the terms reptilian brain or 'blue-blood' comes from? Or all the reverence to serpents and dragons and asps and snakes etc?

It's time to close your school books, throw out your televisions and ponder. Think in quietness. Things will start making (unbelievable) sense if you close your eyes to see.

Until then, it would be nice of you if you didn't cut others down in your search for YOUR truth. You're the one struggling with this. Not others.
I think you owe Unity an apology but that's on you too!

I'm all for outsmarting the aliens with some type of GPS device to gather evidence of abduction. Small problem though. My cell phone doesn't get a signal when I'm in a vegas casino. SO what are the odds my cellphone will be able to communicate a gps signal inside the energy bubble that the UFO uses to operate? I'm thinking if my cell hone can't handle a slot machine then it's really not going to do well with a UFO.

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I'm all for outsmarting the aliens with some type of GPS device to gather evidence of abduction. Small problem though. My cell phone doesn't get a signal when I'm in a vegas casino. SO what are the odds my cellphone will be able to communicate a gps signal inside the energy bubble that the UFO uses to operate? I'm thinking if my cell hone can't handle a slot machine then it's really not going to do well with a UFO.

edit on 22-7-2012 by BASSPLYR because: (no reason given)

Don't you think whoever these aliens are, realize we're easy prey who usually can't resist let alone, bring back proof?

Here's the thing, this 'truth' is not global just yet because it's not ready to be global.
This is all going according to plan. Now whose plan is this?....is anyone guess. Probably like a Galactic plan that's been agreed upon.

This reality (as unbelievable as it is) has been slowly seeping through our unconscious since at least, 1947. And with each generation, it 's gotten easier and more plausible to believe/accept.

This, for all intents and purposes, started with Roswell 1947. Followed by tens of thousands of sightings in the 50's and 60's. Then it took a turn with Betty and Barney Hill in '64 which introduced us to possible abductions.
Then it amped up to mass-witness abduction with Travis Walton in '74. Then Billy Meier in the 70's until now. And so on and so on.

People didn't make this up. The Hills nor Walton had nothing to gain. In fact, they lost a lot! So as you can see, once you accept this gradual acceptance, you can see it's being done in baby steps.

We're now at a point of finding out who they are and what they're doing. And if some of you want to stay stubborn and not accept this then ironically enough, it's YOUR loss now.

This world doesn't make sense and we know it. We realize we're born to serve-to-survive despite being told we're born free. We're realizing this is NOT our soul/sole purpose. It's bigger. The monetary existence that's kept us enslaved is crumbling because it's not working because it's not supposed to. It's called karma.

We need to get back to basics and that means, learning our truth once again and our truth is out there!
It's so simple that we make it seem hard.

There are so many people having experiences, even families and friends. A friend of mine, in the interior, her grandson came to spend a week and (in my opinion brought trouble) as we had flashes, crafts, warnings, scoop marks appear spontaneously when he had been told we had to go in, and then my insider friend was online at the time, so I caught him and he said, well that only happens if the person is AB-, then there would be a battle, they're not allowed that dna. Well it turned, yup that was the case, he and his father. But the grandson was 16 at the time and he woke up, the window opened, he remembered who he was.

Now whatever we were seeing, these tall shadows, and the message to go in, and then scoop marks instantly on our arms, I looked down and saw the blood, it was a deep, almost to the bone wound, quite typical of what I got alot up until then, and took a long time to heal. He was horrified and on his arm were 2, one healed up right under noses, in a moment, and they're attempt to protect his DNA didn't work.

So, he remembers Sirius and felines, and his family watching over frequently. He said they were on their way. He talked of earth being Gaia's testing ground, and that he was here to progress his consciousness hundreds of thousands of times beyond this small golf ball soul orb.

This is a kid who had climbed the public roofs to think whenever he was troubled and escaped cops when they showed up, and punched a drug dealer out over his estranged mom, grandma had custody. And my friend had pictures of feline goddess egypt on her wall and talked of lions guarding the property once in a blue moon when she shared astral and night time work.

I was happy when he left, we're experiencers but I still like peace and that was so fierce and so much confrontation. Though he had taken conversations with my friends and sang these words to me they wrote, and told me they were a psalm, and asked to talk to my friend from finland and they wrote this language themselves, and he said, he couldn't use the keyboard it was primitive, and seemed to remember this man.

Well, my friend just phoned, her head was spinning. She has astral work with ETs, and two nordic norwegian type men, very tall. She said she hangs out with them and has had sitings of crafts and experiences since childhood, and these two were connected to that. One had quipped at her in her lucid dream/astral, I'm the one you keep forgetting.

So, she just had, abotu a week apart 2 very tall nordic men walk in her place of work, and one was very outgoing, and kept focusing on her. Then this week, this other chiseled featured man walked through, wouldnt say a word, and she finally asked if she could help him, and he looked at her and said, "I'm the one you keep forgetting" and he left. They were like 6 3 or so the first one, and the last guy was like 6 5.

And her head is spinning.

That was in the flesh right, here. They walk amongst us.

Now with ET, just because you can be pulled at night has nothing to do with the frequency they're on, the ones that serve and protect for example, she called warriors basically. And on mission. And she knew them, hung with them for eons it felt like, and yet, their frequency is close enough to be physical.

But you only get what you're allowed, its not like you can force evidence or anything. Only what you're allowed.[

i'm still waiting for my abduction...hasnt happened yet...

reply to post by HomerinNC


Mine either, and the world still spins.

-SAP-

reply to post by HomerinNC


Its the Left/Right hemisphere and waking up the pineal and memories more. Iodide, like say 50 grams a day, anything that detox's such as infared sauna's and P'audarco tea, for example, and an alkaline diet, , lots of lemon water for example, fruit, melons, etc. Will help. Because, everyone has checkups and experiences with their families and there are sides, so I think everyone gets harvested a bit too. For protection from harm and rising above to more direction for how to help others and even more peaks under the veil, it takes seeking and asking and tying to unblock the heart to Love, see through the world and really being kind, seeking to work through all our problems, not falling into harming others.

Note lots remember and have experiences without the supplements, but, this world is very left brained programming, and its seeing through all that, more holistic joining of the hemispheres that tends to connect us to our missions inside.

Edit to add: each one in the school in the testing ground, trying to progress or grow love/awareness/consciousness/intelligence is pretty much responsible for seeking.

So far I keep hearing, disbelief, though its happening to many, and even some credentialed folk speak up, and ridicule, and then others say, seek, do the work, its a school. I've been seeking all my life since childhood, don't understand anyone too lazy to do so, don't get it at all. You have to reach the next level to have the curtain lift a little, for the most part, there are exceptions. Family can swoop in and nudge or help when you're at your lowest too. But normally, in a school. the students starts to go beyond quickly doing the course material and wants to know more, questions it and when the student is ready, the teachers will show up.

Its quite an accurate descriptioin.

But they don't hand out the answers to the test to the students ahead of time.

Originally posted by HomerinNC
i'm still waiting for my abduction...hasnt happened yet...

Many abductions aren't realized until after-the-fact. Possibly years later.

I don't know how I feel about the 'people' in these abductions. Sometimes I feel we're all being taken (because I'm no better or any worse than you) but then sometimes I do think I was selected (like the millions of others) due to my blood type which is O-negative.

But I think trying to figure out which ones are being taken, which races are taking us or how their crafts work is putting to cart before the horse because it's taken us at least 25 years just to learn that they are indeed taking some of us.
That much is a fact. Accept it or dismiss for now.... but don't mock it because that only serves as a sign of your inability to explore outside your conditioned comfort zone.

reply to post by Human_Alien


Bad things, the truly bad, people don't usually come back. For all the people who do, there are different groups out there, and some neutral and scientific, some are your family, who you hang with, and there is also Family as in the Guides and Help and Miracles, though some of the miracles people are receiving come through the ones we are family groups or connected to, and some come through the more neutral ones, that may have had a message passed on, if they wouldn't mind doing this, because they don't work isolated. Some experiences are a little alarming, meant to wake a person up, maybe they have to turn around what they're doing, you know if we're asleep at the wheel in a world where animals are treated barbarically, even though they are the younger brothers and sisters waiting for their upgrade, and our behavior influences them so to speak as well, Love begets Love, Kindness begets Kindness and helps all souls progress well.

So they show us our weaknesses too, what we need to work on, consequence, though not what we would call dark side, because that side murders you. So if you're callous in mistreating life and hurt animals, you might be a slab of meat and treated kind of harshly yourself, as a wake up call, like a mirror.

For some, they are rising above, more aware and able to experience a contact, its not like abduction, able to ask questions, shown real glimpses under the veil. They're the ones trying to turn their weaknesses in the earth tests into strenghts and pay attention.

By the way, dolphins and whales are a different group altogether. They share traits of animals, our pets for example, and humans, and also ETs. They're also being freed at this time from here, but my only concern is alot of it seems to be by dying. Its really sad.

Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by n120by60w

 

Off-topic:

Are you and/or wife still being taken? If not, when (do you think) it stopped? Did you know these other people in this 'group' you speak about? If so, did you all collectively, ever discuss your experience?

Thanks

It has been 4-5 years or so for us now.
We still are under the microscope so to say.

Best friends and Co workers along with their families also.

I don't want to be off topic here to show proper respect for smyleegrl's thread.
It is sure good to see some are still in the mind that the fight can be won.

Follow up with me up in the Serious Abductee Chat Room.
We can talk about it more.

smyleegrl has our comments allowed you to further define your thoughts?

Watcher

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reply to post by n120by60w


You've given me a lot to think about, my friend. Frankly, it's hard to accept what you say....but I know you are telling the truth.

Originally posted by smyleegrl
Why not put a GPS tracking device on abductees? If they are then abducted, the GPS could provide some interesting information.

Thanks for the input,
smylee

Thanks for not studying the subject and asking a question like that.

Judging only from your profile picture I can understand why such an ignorant post.

Originally posted by greyer

Originally posted by smyleegrl
Why not put a GPS tracking device on abductees? If they are then abducted, the GPS could provide some interesting information.

Thanks for the input,
smylee

Thanks for not studying the subject and asking a question like that.

Judging only from your profile picture I can understand why such an ignorant post.

It was a legitimate question. Thankfully, other ATS members are willing to share their knowledge.

reply to post by Human_Alien


I completely agree with everything you are saying. I just don't think that GPS itself will be the tool to use. Also how many case are there where the aliens allow the humans to bring personal devices onboard the craft. I think I remember a few cases like that. But am not sure what if anything they were able to document. I say the best way of getting images to prove a abduction would be to set up a telephoto lens about a mile fro the house and zoom in and wait. Or set your own trap for the creatures.

I've often wondered why no aliens ever abduct people from places like east LA. It's probably because they will get their UFO jacked and tagged on. They know that so they aren't going there. So what we need to do is have a squad of men hiding in the basement of an abductees house. Try and shield them from microwaves so that they aren't as easily detected by the UFO survailance equipment and have them bum rush the aliens when they enter the house.

Or you can always use my solution to abductions. It doesn't prove anything but it does make sure the aliens never come back to your place. It's simple. Bucket of '___' laced water (aliens absorb stuff through their skin) place it above slightly ajar bedroom door. sit back and wait for aliens to strip the trap and get drenched in '___' water. Then it's time to take the little guys on your own trip or sorts. Also I recommend for tenacious aliens a gimp to come out of a box to seal the deal. Let him "play" with the twink grey for a few hours. They will never be coming back to your house again.

Also I was wondering if one could abduct jehovahs witnesses or mormans and sick them on the aliens. Next time the aliens the aliens are trying to turn the front door knob of your house at 2 in the morning. just release the JW/M's on them. Imagine the surprise the greys will get when just as they turn the knob of the door all the way to open it. IT opens by itself from the inside and 12 JW/M's are standing there going "Hi only 122,000 people make it into heaven! Would you like to be one of those people? Wait one of them little guys is leaving!!! Brother Thor get him! Where you going little guy, have you seen this fascinating brochure?" as huge muscle bound morman gets grey in head lock and drags him back into the house.

Imagine the aliens response to that. Maybe have a intervention on the greys by hosting your house to some scientologists for an auditing. The greys sneak into your house and close the front door behind them. It's dark with all the lights off just as they had hoped. Nothing can go wrong with their little abduction. But just then the door behind them locks the lights turn on and its bunch of scientologists with E-meters attempting an audit. "my my what theatens we have here. You need to become clear!" Alien runs to door and tries to pry it open with both hands on the knob and it's little feet on the wall to no avail. "You must really read this book it will change your life!"

THE aliens wail telepathically "nooooooooooooo!!!! Just when we thought we got them off our planet they rear their heads again!" Tom Cuise in a Xeno mask comes out of the den in some weird robes trying to convert the greys. Just then another grey is seen running out back of the house being chased in circles by the leather gimp from pulp fiction.