False Flag Alert in Aurora : Biggest Mass Shooting in the History of the USA is not a coincidence

Originally posted by reverandrandy
*Question*

How does an unemployed Medical student get thousands of dollars in tactical gear and weapons, by himself, in a matter of a couple weeks?

Riddle me that, ATS

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~the Rev.

Left over grant money. You can keep that free and clear. He was probably living on it as well.

I've known college kids that bought brand new cars with extra grant money that they didn't need.

reply to post by SUICIDEHK45


He failed to use the shotgun on the second theater. He finished with his first target, moved to the next. He was then locked out of the second target by a heroic moviegoer. He pounded on the door, and then left without firing a shot at the door.

Why carry those weapons at all? Imo he did research online to find out what the cops would use for a similar invasion, and purchased them with very little idea how to use them.

reply to post by Honor93


Under the literal definition of the term is when a country attacks itself and then blames it on another country or organization. This clearly has nothing to do with that. Something definately smells fishy here, but that does not mean that this was a false flag.

Originally posted by Evolutionsend

Originally posted by reverandrandy
*Question*

How does an unemployed Medical student get thousands of dollars in tactical gear and weapons, by himself, in a matter of a couple weeks?

Riddle me that, ATS

?

~the Rev.

Left over grant money. You can keep that free and clear. He was probably living on it as well.

I've known college kids that bought brand new cars with extra grant money that they didn't need.

This also fits with the idea that he was dropping out of a PhD program, hence the "extra" money.

reply to post by xXxinfidelxXx


I agree, while I don't think this fits the literal definition of a False Flag, I do think that this will be used to take the MSMs and the people's attention off of something else. Probably something to do with Iran or Syria. It may not have been planned this way but TPTB will probably try to use it to their advantage.

Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by JimboSlice

 

There may have been a bomb in the car that malfunctioned. Why trap the apartment if you're going back to it? I don't think he intended to make it out. Maybe that's why he waited in the car?

Perhaps confused as to how he did live, and waiting to be shot? Maybe in shock over his own actions? Perhaps high?

Who knows, but this guy isn't a government plant. He's too bad at it to be trained.

The model shotgun he had, is used to blow open locks. He was locked outside and didn't use the "lock popper". Not a shill. Not enough tactical experience.

Everything you just pointed out could very well be true. One thing that i keep thinking about, is an articIe read said the cops found him sitting next to his car still in full gear but without his mask. If this was true, then that would mean he was no longer a suspect and was now positively identified as the shooter. If this was the case, i believe that at least one of those country-serving officers would have straight blasted the guy. Cops show far less mercy on far less deserving 'suspects' all the time in the US. If trayvon martin gets killed for nothing, why does this mass-murderer not get slain on the spot?

Originally posted by Equ1nox

first 2 1/2 mins: The final preparations, making sure you can make him do something and have 0 memory of it afterwards (in this case removing his own shoe and putting it in a bread bin and then having no idea at all that he did it)

2 1/2mins - 7 1/2 mins: The dry run. Derren uses a polka dot design as the trigger for the person to enter the state. He has been pre programmed and when he enters the state and does the shooting he imagines he is at a shooting range and not actually killing someone

7 1/2mins onwards: The preparations are finished and the mind control assassination is ready for action.

very interesting programme indeed, proving that someone can be made to do something that they had no idea of.

After the assassination he just sits down like nothing has happened, and has no memory of anything, quite fascinating really

In the Aurora situation it is interesting that the guy sat in the front row, there could very well have been an exact point in the movie that acted as the trigger, and then the phone call he received was him being given the information of what to do, exactly like it happened in the Derren Brown experiment. Then he carried out exactly what he had been programmed to do,maybe he thought he was in a game or in the movie or something like that. Once he had finished he just stopped, exactly like he would with mind control. His job was done.

CLassic project monarch, MKUltra stuff. Ya the way he supposedly stopped like he shut down as if his mission was complete is really what ties it to mind control to me. The fact that the cops didn't put him down actually is surprising to me, that is, unless they weren't supposed to.

this is a conspiracy website where such speculations are welcome. however, while this theory is indeed possible i believe it is highly unlikely.

it just doesn't feel like there was much more to it to me, but i could be wrong. you did list some good reasons there. plus you can't put anything past the government after an event like 9/11.

anyway, it is just my opinion that there is no conspiracy to this one, even though i've got nothing to back it up.

Originally posted by xXxinfidelxXx
reply to post by Honor93

 

Under the literal definition of the term is when a country attacks itself and then blames it on another country or organization. This clearly has nothing to do with that. Something definately smells fishy here, but that does not mean that this was a false flag.

edit on 21/7/2012 by xXxinfidelxXx because: (no reason given)

ummmm, covert operations have always been deemed FFs ... since the days of False Colours. (you know, ship flags)
a covert operation does not need to be blamed on another country, where did you get that idea? FFs have been used to influence US policy for many decades now, this is nothing new.

fyi ...

www.forthenations.com...
Definition of False Flag
False flag operations are covert operations designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities.

The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own.

False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and can be used in peace-time.

Definition of "Lesser Magic"

Lesser Magic portrays an event "BEFORE" it happens, to give more hidden power to the event, by

sticking it right under the nose of the public,

and then laughing at the public how stupid the public is, not to see what is right in front of the Public's eyes.

Bart Simpson holding up the 9-11 Comicbook Cover is a classic example of Lesser Magic.

Why a 9 on the Comic? Why not one of the other numbers from 1-10 or 1-1000 or 1-1,000,000? Answer: "Lesser Magic".

why theatre 9 only ?? --> Lesser Magic

If this kid was some type of "Black ops" type, this massacre would of been much, much worse. Our soldiers are trained to shoot to kill - it is ingrained. In my opinion, this was nothing more then a highly intelligent, fully alienated young man - he most likely had a chip on his shoulder, and blamed everyone around him for his alienation and loneliness. Then he snapped. It seems to me he stopped killing mid-massacre - the event was probably nothing like he thought it was going to be like, and he was overwhelmed with emotion, a true sociopath would have never stopped shooting, unless he/she was killed or ran out of ammo/useable weapons.

Looks like he executed some sort of prepubescent revenge fantasy - He probably had no real close relatives/friends and was able to stew alone in his angst until his own emotions came to a head. We really need to BURY characters like this - this young man is being turned into a kind of nihilistic anti-hero for other the other alienated, lonely people in our society (and there are plenty of those to go around). The media should focus on the victims, and not the horrendous caricature of a mass-murderer. If it was up to me, this boy's picture and name would be struck from the record, never to be mentioned again - but his horrible act, and those who became his victim(s) would never be forgotten.

reply to post by Ben81


All reports are he bought a ticket and walked into the theater like evryone else...his car was parked behind the theater close to the exit door...all he had to do was was prop the door open while he went to his car and reture with various weapons and do the deed...not everything is a false flag and it would appear he does have a profile that fits some...intelligent....loner....and he was caught in the act.

I wonder if he requested theater 9 at the front counter, or if he just got any ticket and then went into theater 9? If he had been in any other room, it would have been much further away from where his car was parked.

so, with active security on site, why was a single car parked in a back lot, not monitored visually ??
it's not like there were lines of people waiting to get in, the movie had already started.

it's reported that 25 officers intercepted him at the rear of the building ... 25 officers and no one saw him change or access his car after the movie started ??
that's some security

Theater 9?

I was reading about 'The Nine Days' on Wikipedia.

en.wikipedia.org...

perhaps the false flag is religious in nature.

Another thing... the high school/university shootings, the Breivik shootings all had connections to the people. They didn't enter random schools to shoot people, it was schools the kids went to. Breivik did it because of political reasons. They may all be crazy people but the places they carried out the shootings were chosen for a reason.

This guy killed completely random people for no reason. What was the motivation, what was the hatred, the people had no relation to him at all, so i have a real problem believing this was some angry crazy loner, because these type of people take it out on things they hate, be it political people or the school they went to.

This guy just went to some random cinema and killed random people he didn't know and had no reason to kill, so what was the reason? that's why it doesn't add up to me, he wasn't striking back at something, he didn't snap and take it out on something he hated.

reply to post by Equ1nox


that you mentioned the Norway shooter, from exactly 1 year ago tomorrow. i'm gonna run with this and suggest that it does add up and is related to the Hebrew/Jewish calendar all associated most prominently with the Destruction of both of their Temple's by the Babylonians and the Romans and less prominently with the expulsion of Jews from Spain in 1492 and the events of WWI.

Brevik blew up government buildings, a temple of sorts, and then murdered the children of government personalities...and these events occurred after the 17th of Tammuz but before the 9th of Av.

Holmes' massacre in Theater 9 began 1 days after the nine days leading up to the 9th of Av.

while I consider the connection valid, I don't know what to make of it...

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this but I had watched Good Morning America the first day of the shooting. There were multiple people who stated that they saw a man receive a phone call from his cell phone and got up to open the exit door.

Originally posted by Skewed
Not sure I agree but I know I disagree with 8.
I know several people with a similar or even larger arsenal.

Confirmed. Lest anyone end up under the false assumption that owning a few guns puts you at risk of being "suspected" - I live in Illinois, worst state in the US for gun rights. Several people I work with have significantly larger arsenals as do two of my uncles (i'm only now getting my first piece) and most of those aren't republicans. I only mention that to add to the point that anti-gun sentiment isn't nearly as widespread as media would have us believe, and that gun "restrictions" even in Illinois still allow us to be extremely well-armed. Don't believe the hype!

reply to post by michaelbrux
hmmm, i was wondering if you knew what dates that Av period covered ... that is interesting indeed.
hadn't considered that specific angle but it sure does add to the prevailing theory that something more is going on than we are led to believe.

hadn't read or heard about the college Cancer presentation either.
at this point, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he was a manchurian candidate from birth
supposedly, dad did have those kinds of connections

reply to post by Ben81


F&S
very probably
don't know if you remember but after the columbine massacre
an investigative reporter did some investigating
he discovered that all these kids that went postal and killed teachers and schoolmates
had been on psychotropics since they were babies
he had to stop investigating and never published a book about the subject
because before a year had gone by HIPPA was made law

how convenient...


MK-ULTRA waas never really shutdown folks, it's findings and data were inherited by the mega-churches, and other groups, and its hand can be seen in most of the cults that made the headlines

Jim Jones's peoples temple
Heavens Gate [hey what ever happened to all the members monies? they were all loaded]
Branch Davidian [yep]

Mind Control
The Ultimate Terror educate-yourself.org...
[days worth of links, includes countermeasures]

the false memory syndrome hoax [pedos in the psycho-therapeutic and skeptic communities made it up]
educate-yourself.org...

www.howcultswork.com...
www.wanttoknow.info...
educate-yourself.org...
[promise keepers and their secret phallic worship bible]

oh and RP can't save you; he has major backing from the Dominionists
[our own taliban that wants to bring back stoning, uh huh]

the sodomites of the bible were not gays as the religi-mons would have you believe
but state sanctioned terrorists, the cult of belial
demonstrating that terrorism has been a tool of the state since the very beginning

stay alert Ben81, this is a subject that at the end of the rabbit hole branches out into a moles warren
and one of the on-going conspiracy subjects that can get you in trouble

take it from someone who once outed 3 CIA agents playing these mind-games in college
unconsciously,
using tarot cards.