Obama's Kenyan birth records discovered in British National Archives

reply to post by MagnumOpus


And again, they are a religion and school of thought. Even if they mix, you're not half muslim, half communist. You can't be half of a religion, or half a school of thought. You can be half black, and half white, but that's genetics.

Even then, your logic is way off the mark.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Pure nonsense. If someone's genetics can be half white and half black, then the genetic coding information between the two is blended. Obama is a light skinned black person, no where near as dark as his father.

You want to claim Islamic is always the exact make-up from person to person, and Communist is the same. There are moderates in both and Islamic beliefs have blended with Communist belief in many areas.

Obama II is a hybrid of all these experiences and past paternal teachings.

Most of his experiences are not the mainstream ethos of most Americans. Obama talks a good line, but check out that openness and honesty claim and ask for the School records on grants and scholarships. It appears Obama II greatest value is telling lies, false claims, and running the US into the ground with diversity enough to destroy the US.


I don't happen to agree with your viewpoint, nor is it logical.

reply to post by MagnumOpus


don't you wish you knew something...anything at all....on this topic that was vaguely correct?

Islam is a religion - it is not part of your genetic makeup - either you follow some version of islam or not - you do not get to be "half Islamic".

reply to post by MagnumOpus


Never has there been a president with Islamic associations like Obama. Bet I can come up with one. His name was Thomas Jefferson ever hear of him?

reply to post by MagnumOpus


Nowhere did I claim that all MUSLIM people (not Islam) are the same. Or that all Communists are the same. I claimed that you can't be half of a religion, or half of an ideology. They have nothing to do with genetics, and you are either all Muslim or all Communist.

Interesting Obama Islam relatives and such:




Also interesting, what records do appear:

MagnumOpus
Also interesting, what records do appear:

If that video was banned why is it on youtube? oh, Obama did not actually ban it, that claim is just another silly untrue birther claim....

reply to post by MagnumOpus

Interesting Obama Islam relatives and such:

So do you go around telling your family members what they can believe in? He doesn't control their lives or beliefs.

MagnumOpus
reply to post by Zaphod58

 

Pure nonsense. If someone's genetics can be half white and half black, then the genetic coding information between the two is blended. Obama is a light skinned black person, no where near as dark as his father.

You want to claim Islamic is always the exact make-up from person to person, and Communist is the same. There are moderates in both and Islamic beliefs have blended with Communist belief in many areas.

Obama II is a hybrid of all these experiences and past paternal teachings.

Most of his experiences are not the mainstream ethos of most Americans. Obama talks a good line, but check out that openness and honesty claim and ask for the School records on grants and scholarships. It appears Obama II greatest value is telling lies, false claims, and running the US into the ground with diversity enough to destroy the US.


I don't happen to agree with your viewpoint, nor is it logical.

Still no proof I see, just conjecture and, to be frank, blathering.

Well I still believe Obama was an adopted foreign orphan child.

The records are sealed in Hawaiian courts.

Only 'just cause' can unseal.

The question still remains unanswered by the experts here.

"Is a foreign born orphan considered to be a 'natural born citizen' by default " ?

xuenchen
Well I still believe Obama was an adopted foreign orphan child.

The records are sealed in Hawaiian courts.

Only 'just cause' can unseal.

The question still remains unanswered by the experts here.

"Is a foreign born orphan considered to be a 'natural born citizen' by default " ?

Wouldn't there be adoption records left behind? Oh yeah that's right when he joined the CIA he used their time machine to go back and erase the records right?

buster2010

xuenchen
Well I still believe Obama was an adopted foreign orphan child.

The records are sealed in Hawaiian courts.

Only 'just cause' can unseal.

The question still remains unanswered by the experts here.

"Is a foreign born orphan considered to be a 'natural born citizen' by default " ?

Wouldn't there be adoption records left behind? Oh yeah that's right when he joined the CIA he used their time machine to go back and erase the records right?

No.

All adoption records are sealed (usually automatic)

Ask any lawyer or do the research.

Most adoption laws don't require a public hearing either.

Lawyers get judges to seal.

In comparison.....
Many Divorces get judges to sign without public hearings in court.
[ although only some get sealed for different reasons ]

reply to post by xuenchen

All adoption records are sealed (usually automatic)

You mean just like birth and school records?

xuenchen
Well I still believe Obama was an adopted foreign orphan child.

The records are sealed in Hawaiian courts.

Only 'just cause' can unseal.

The question still remains unanswered by the experts here.

"Is a foreign born orphan considered to be a 'natural born citizen' by default " ?

Stop stirring things up man!!! Grrr!

reply to post by xuenchen

All adoption records are sealed (usually automatic)

buster2010
You mean just like birth and school records?

I'm not fully understanding your question.

So I will ask two different questions;


Are birth and/or school records automatically sealed by a court order ?

and,

Does it take a court order to 'unseal' birth and/or school records ?

AngryCymraeg

xuenchen
Well I still believe Obama was an adopted foreign orphan child.

The records are sealed in Hawaiian courts.

Only 'just cause' can unseal.

The question still remains unanswered by the experts here.

"Is a foreign born orphan considered to be a 'natural born citizen' by default " ?

Stop stirring things up man!!! Grrr!

Perhaps you're right !!

I've already given away too many secrets.

Just wait for the press releases !!

Somebody actually is working on showing *cause*.

And no, it's not Orly or Joe, it's somebody new with plenty of 'rum in the punch', and lots of credibility !!

You'll have to wait for the surprise.

xuenchen
Just wait for the press releases !!
Somebody actually is working on showing *cause*.

And no, it's not Orly or Joe, it's somebody new with plenty of 'rum in the punch', and lots of credibility !!

Well, we have been waiting for 5 years so far, a few more years will not make much difference.

We have all heard this nonsense from birthers many times before, no one takes anything they say seriously.

Let me guess, someone has written another bookand wants the publicity!

reply to post by hellobruce


I think I shall manage to overcome my almost irresistible desire to hold my breath waiting.......

hellobruce

xuenchen
Just wait for the press releases !!
Somebody actually is working on showing *cause*.

And no, it's not Orly or Joe, it's somebody new with plenty of 'rum in the punch', and lots of credibility !!

Well, we have been waiting for 5 years so far, a few more years will not make much difference.

We have all heard this nonsense from birthers many times before, no one takes anything they say seriously.

Let me guess, someone has written another bookand wants the publicity!

No.

No books.

The problem of unsealing closed adoption records in court is *precedence*.

No 3rd party has ever been able to crack it in any court.

Most closed adoption records are at county level.

In Obama's case, the only one who could do it is ..... Obama himself, and even then, personal desire or interest is not a valid petition.

The parents are dead, and there's no medical reason to investigate.

The possibility of criminality is explorable, but again, no precedent exists in law.

You read the prior posts already.

A Congressional or DOJ subpena is possible, but that is not in the cards yet.

They still need to show cause and harm.

Funding is coming from vested interests on both sides.

The question remains unanswered;

Does a foreign adoptee get 'natural born citizen' status automatically ?

We know they *DO* get birth certificates, passports, etc.

reply to post by xuenchen


Given that Obama's birth certificate shows conclusively that he was born in the USA as proven in court already, any adoption is a moot point - he is a natural born citizen.

Period.

Please shut the door on your way out.