X class flare, almost direct hit Saturday

I don't know if this is related or not, but I work in a betting shop in the uk and today at around 15:00 gmt both mine and my cashiers computers completely froze at exactly the same time and were completely unresponsive. About 1 min later mine started to respond again and her SSD drive completely failed. I had to get the drive completely replaced. Like I said, I do not know if it's related, but it's a weird coincidence.

Anyone get nausea and feel sick?

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I spent the morning with a piercing headache and bad nausea, lasted about 4 hours. Worst of it was around 11 AM to noon PST. I just wanted to pass out for a while till it was over but had to force myself through it, it was terrible. Feeling completely back to normal now though thankfully.

Originally posted by MamaJ
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All you have shown is your eagerness to argue while I have offered multiple links and info proving my stance.

No, you havent. You've posted the same link over and over, and misrepresented what it said. IT discussed 'space weather's effects on electrics, not the wind and rain.

So, instead, you attack me personally. It's transparent. You dont know what the heck you are talking about.

"Space weather' does not have a direct effect on earth weather. Period.

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Gee, I was sailing up to Monterey and Back the past 2 days and just walked in to check my email and what has been going on, only to read I should have been hiding in a cave instead of out exposed to the full Sun. I'm a bit sunburned..more tanned than burned and the weather was unbelievably great the entire time sooooo, guess these solar flares are a good thing but if I wake up as a mutant or like I was radiated, I will let ya'll know. The rains were great too. Life at sea is great...I won't miss much, so wonderful to get away from PEOPLE!

i have seen reports of people seeing the aurora as far south as Arkansas (now this was on twitter) any confirmations of that?? any reports of anything in TX? i didnt see anything but my house is surrounded by trees

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Go back and see what links were provided that say solar activity affects weather. Im not replying to you anymore... Done. Your arrogance and attitude is not funny anymore. Im over it. Contribute to a thread already!!!! Stop being a troll!

Not ONLY did I offer links to back up my words but others did on this thread as well. Here is what I personally offered that you ignored and others offered links as well that are not the same source... But guess what..... Says the same thing! Get your facts straight and stop denying common sense. www.abovetopsecret.com...

I was sick friday all day but better on Saturday, nausea, headache, felt awful. Wondered if it was related to this as not prone to headaches nor do I get sick often.

Originally posted by TMG333
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I spent the morning with a piercing headache and bad nausea, lasted about 4 hours. Worst of it was around 11 AM to noon PST. I just wanted to pass out for a while till it was over but had to force myself through it, it was terrible. Feeling completely back to normal now though thankfully.

Hmm, that makes quite a few of us...I threw up violently, was a bizzare experience, definitely felt like something was shifting around me

Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by stanguilles7

 

Go back and see what links were provided that say solar activity affects weather.

Lol. You never posted anything that proved that You posted several NASA articles that discussed 'space weather's' effects on ELECTRONICS! And when it was pointed out to you, you said I had to 'read between the lines'.

Originally posted by MamaJ
I personally think its common sense solar activity plays a role with our weather on Earth.... And you will find many professionals agree.

Weather on Earth can also be affected. Recently, NOAA scientists finally concluded that four factors determined global temperatures: carbon dioxide levels, volcanic eruptions, Pacific El Niño pattern, and the Sun's activity.

m.almanac.com...

There is also historical evidence that long-term periods of global cold, rainfall, drought, and other weather shifts relate to solar cycle activity: Times of depressed solar activity seem to correspond with times of global cold. For example, during the 70-year period from 1645 to 1715, few, if any, sunspots were seen, even during expected sunspot maximums. Western Europe entered a climate period known as the "Maunder Minimum" or "Little Ice Age." Temperatures dropped by 1.8 to 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit. Times of increased solar activity have corresponded with global warning. During the 12th and 13th centuries, the Sun was active, and the European climate was quite mild.

And the article goes on to say....

What's Up With the Sun Now? Late 2009 brought a burst of activity, and December ended with a flurry of sunspots. During 2010, solar activity started to increase activity with several intense periods of eruption, sometimes all at once. NASA stated that "the Sun is waking up from a deep slumber, and the next few years could bring much higher levels of solar activity." During 2011, the Sun had a year of activity, but low activity. Many researchers believed the upcoming solar maximum would be weak. As of March 2012: On January 27, sunspot region 1202 unleashed a sizable X1.7-class flare from the far side of the Sun. Then, on March 5, following weeks of minor flares, the Sun launched an X1.1-class flare and a CME from active region 1429. A week-long series of M-class flares, two X-class flares, and CMEs followed as AR1429 moved across the face of the Sun (to soon rotate out of Earth's view). Predictions for Solar Cycle 24 Most solar science experts believe that both Cycle 24 and the following cycle (25) may be relatively quiet ones, leading to a cooling pattern over the next few decades. If this cooling phase on Earth is offset by any warming caused by increasing greenhouse gases, they also raise the question of whether an eventual warming cycle could lead to more rapid warming on Earth than expected. To quote Bob Berman, astronomer for The Old Farmer's Almanac, "If the upcoming solar max of Cycle 24 is normal or robust, and especially if an El Niño follows it 2 years later (as often happens), then the middle of this decade will be the hottest period since humans arrived on Earth. However, if the upcoming maximum is wimpy, as most solar researchers expect, or if the Sun is now entering an extended period of low activity, that is the best thing it could possibly do for us. Such a scenario would mitigate climate change. Essentially, the Sun has been buying us time."

Time will tell what the Sun will do and how it will affect us. Will it energize up and completely awaken or will it continue to rest somewhat? It should be reaching maximum soon.

Here is what I offered this thread and the argument continues? Really?! Let it go or add something of value to the thread. Its getting old!

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You keep reposting the same info that shows INDIRECT effects, not direct.

I now see you will never grasp the difference.

'space weather' will not make it windy on earth. Solar flares yesterday are not causing it to rain today.

I'm sorry you dont appreciate me correcting your hysterical inaccuracies. Maybe the internet isnt for you.

The amount of energy entering the troposphere and stratosphere from all space weather phenomena is trivial compared to the solar insolation in the visible and infra-red portions of the solar electromagnetic spectrum.

However there does seem to be some linkage between the 11 year sunspot cycle and the Earth's climate.[25] For example, the Maunder minimum, a 70 year period almost devoid of sunspots, correlates to a cooling of the Earth's climate. One suggestion for the linkage between space and terrestrial weather is that changes in cosmic ray flux cause changes in the amount of cloud formation.[26] Another suggestion is that variations in the EUV flux subtlety influence existing drivers of the climate and tips the balance between states such as the El Niño/La Niña states.[27]

However, a linkage between space weather and the climate has not been demonstrated conclusively.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by MamaJ

 

You keep reposting the same info that shows INDIRECT effects, not direct.

I now see you will never grasp the difference.

'space weather' will not make it windy on earth. Solar flares yesterday are not causing it to rain today.

I'm sorry you dont appreciate me correcting your hysterical inaccuracies. Maybe the internet isnt for you.

edit on 15-7-2012 by stanguilles7 because: (no reason given)

Maybe instead of insulting and roaming ats with horns you can grasp some humility and just smile and be nice.

Let it go.

You are twisting and turning words. If you were to go back and read you would have some understanding but instead you continue derail and deny common sense of what I have been saying ALL along, along with credible sources saying the exact same thing. You really like to argue dont you!!

Originally posted by MamaJ

Originally posted by stanguilles7
reply to post by MamaJ

 

You keep reposting the same info that shows INDIRECT effects, not direct.

I now see you will never grasp the difference.

'space weather' will not make it windy on earth. Solar flares yesterday are not causing it to rain today.

I'm sorry you dont appreciate me correcting your hysterical inaccuracies. Maybe the internet isnt for you.

edit on 15-7-2012 by stanguilles7 because: (no reason given)

Maybe instead of insulting and roaming ats with horns you can grasp some humility and just smile and be nice.

Perhaps if you spent more time forming a source, cogent argument, instead of personal attacks, you might learn something. I'm sorry you think it means I 'have horns' because I correct your claims. In the real world, adults can debate facts without getting a sad face.

If you say 2+2=12, and someone corrects you, do you say they are 'mean'?

Let it go.

Sure, as soon as you stop making false claims.

You are twisting and turning words.

Nope, you are. You took an article that discussed the effects on ELECTRONICS and said I had to 'read between the lines'.

If you were to go back and read you would have some understanding but instead you continue derail and deny common sense of what I have been saying ALL along, along with credible sources saying the exact same thing. You really like to argue dont you!!

You should look in the mirror, sweetheart. Youve been repeatedly shown to be wrong, with your own sources, nonetheless, but keep coming back and personally attacking me instead of proving your point.

Alsp, you said you were done replying to me like ten posts ago. See you soon!

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Argue with yourself. Lol I cant read and understand for you. Try this link... Maybe you will understand it. Maybe not. Nope.... Dont think you will.

www.sciencedaily.com...

Solarham.com

Geomagnetic activity is still continuing at moderate to strong levels.
Auroras seen in New Zealand and Pine City, Minnesota and more photo's on the site.

I will ask the question now, will we see an increase in earthquakes now? Just wondering as there have been articles claiming links between sunspots and earthquakes.

Image and text from Facebook.com

We often hear of the Aurora Borealis or Northern Lights, however when Aurora is visible around the South Pole, this is called the Aurora Australis. Tony Travaglia (ZL4BHX) from Oamaru, New Zealand captured this fantastic image.

Originally posted by R6A6W6
Solarham.com

Geomagnetic activity is still continuing at moderate to strong levels.
Auroras seen in New Zealand and Pine City, Minnesota and more photo's on the site.

I will ask the question now, will we see an increase in earthquakes now? Just wondering as there have been articles claiming links between sunspots and earthquakes.

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For me personally I think its common sense it would affect the magnetite and or ground like a magnet but the argument with it still goes back and forth. There is speculation, but no proof as of yet that it can cause EQs. The evidence is just not there.... Not yet anyway. I also feel it energizes volcanic activity. Maybe setting it in motion as the cme bombardment can set off charging and changing cloud formation. So much still to learn and prove though.

When I first signed up last yr after the Japan Quake I too saw a relation and different essays trying to prove this theory or that one but its inconclusive as far as I know. Puterman over at quakewatch2012 could tell you more.... He is the guru imo in regards to quakes and the possible causes.

Since I have been residing under a rock for awhile now, could someone tell me why we seem to be hearing about these flares with increasing regularity?

Is it access to technology or our awareness has been heightened, or both? Or has there been a marked increase?

(*slinks away from thread*)

Originally posted by HolographicPrincipal
Since I have been residing under a rock for awhile now, could someone tell me why we seem to be hearing about these flares with increasing regularity?

Is it access to technology or our awareness has been heightened, or both? Or has there been a marked increase?

(*slinks away from thread*)

edit on 7/16/2012 by HolographicPrincipal because: syntax

In my opinion the media is giving the latest flare attention because it was an X flare, technology and awareness plays a role as well. Just my 2 cents. :-)