Zombie Rabies Flu Virus Cover Up Story By Homeland Security Dated 2007

Originally posted by johnnysixguns

Originally posted by optimus primal

Originally posted by Romekje
reply to post by optimus primal

 

The guy in Miami took multiple gunshots before he stopped.

The guy in China was unable to be stopped by the bystanders and only the police was able to stop the attack.

There was another case of a guy going mad in a city centre, running around naked and attacking 6 police officers and even managing to break free and run after they had him down. But there was no biting involved here.

Another case in Miami where a naked guy attacked someone with bites in the neck, resulted in the police having to tazer the guy so badly he died because of it.

Another one cut out his own intestines and threw it at the cops coming for him (ever tried to cut yourself deliberately?)

I could go on but it's not up to me to regurgitate info thats readily available on these forums just because you can't be arsed to read for yourself.

none of which is inconsistent with drugs/adrenaline. as for cutting yourself deliberately, i guess seppuku was only performed by superhuman people, or wrist slitting suicides eh? please be more dramatic, it's doing so much for your cause.

again where's the evidence of a mass designer rabies wave?
i read all the articles in the linked thread....i see crazies, drugged up crazies, and domestic violence.

i forget did you link to any medical reports stating rabies infections?

I believe you are trolling now.

Stabbing yourself followed by swift decapitation is entirely different than slicing out your intestines and throwing them at police.

Some of those could be contributed to adrenaline, except that response is short lived. You cannot maintain an adrenaline rush for a prolonged length of time.

Drugs? Yes. Except you are overlooking several common denominators in some, but not all, of these cases, which happen to be the ones I put my stake into. In the interest of the burden of proof, I encourage you to find the toxicology reports for these people. I believe that the Rudy Eugene has already been proven to not be under the influence of any known substance that would have been searched for.

except that's not how seppuku works, it's several deep cuts across the abdomen then followed by beheading.
as for drugs, rudy did have drugs in his system, not bathsalts, but drugs none the less, as it said right in the article i linked a few pages back. what common denominators? biting? in a world of 7 billion people i suppose five or so people will bite someone else at the same time. statistics for you i guess.

i still see no medical reports of rabies infection.

it's also easy to claim someone is trolling, just because they disagree with you.

Originally posted by johnnysixguns
reply to post by optimus primal

 

Exactly. Some.

How are antivirals made? Would you like to explain to me? Or should I explain it to you? I am sure wiki can give us both the jist of it. Your call.

Nevermind that even with antivirals, for a known strain of virus, there is no certainty that it will repress a manifestation. Especially for something we are speculating upon, which I think you lose sight of.

i don't know why you're getting so defensive, i merely pointed out that antivirals do exist. nor did i make any claims to their efficacy.

speculation is all fine and dandy, and i've already posted in the thread that if it turns out i'm wrong and there is some genetically engineered rabies virus, then my bad, however if you don't like it when people disagree with your speculations perhaps this isn't the website for you.

reply to post by mellisamouse


I would at the very least call the hospital and find out what you were given. There will be a record of it.

If you think you could have a link into this, you should ask yourself questions about where you had traveled or encounters with animals, wildlife, or waste that you may not normally encounter preceding the event.

Though with having a 7 year old, if he was the first to show symptoms, it could have been contracted at school, especially during the holidays (November-Dec.. even as far back as Labor Day), and from there the conclusion could be drawn for the mother to contract it next (more attachment at that age, especially if she was a stay at home mom)

reply to post by optimus primal


I don't say you're trolling because you disagree. I say you are trolling because you are reaching more than some of the other people in this thread to draw conclusions for your doubt, while at the same time patronizing with your admission you may be wrong.

I don't even believe everything in this thread. But I am being critical enough in my thinking to see what dots can be connected and what can't.

Furthermore - No, there were no drugs in Rudy Eugene's system. THC metabolites? Yes. That does not prove he was under the influence. As I also stated, I would like to know what the unidentified pills were. Find out they're an antacid, and that begs to ask more questions.

And I don't even know where you pulled that line about how seppuku is performed. Because you are entirely wrong on that count.

Originally posted by johnnysixguns
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

Well, I think it would be wise to find out more on that topic. I can see reasoning for asking if you had traveled recently, but not necessarily to a specific place, unless there was a known outbreak of a virus there that shows those symptoms.

Was bloodwork done?

No nothing... they got me in right away, which was nice, felt bad for bypassing people with actual injuries, then they herded me in and outta there at lightening speed, no blood work, no follow up, nothing..just asked if I was in the carribean, and gave me the one blue pill with no explanations or advice on how to get beter. was strange. Then their reaction to me a few moths later when we took my hubby in for his blood work was hella weird, like the one guy looked at me and never came back, then they told my hubby to come back in a few days type thing.

His blood work was all fine, once we did go back, and he did the pee in a bottle for 24 hours etc, and our doc said nothing was wrong at all, although we went in there because he was suicidal and freaking out to a point he knew he needed help.

Instead of them helping us we had to ride it out at home with him in a cold shower for days on end... Months later and we are ok, still don't know what the hell was going on, was almost like the shining for a while there.

My son is fine now to, but the school would only let him go back for no more than an hour a day for the last month and a half of school because they were so scared he was gunna freak out again..... they looked through al oif his records and are baffled as nothing led up to it.

We are starting weekly meetings about it again with the child mental health guy and the school board, to try and get them to take him back full time again now that he has been fine for so long. I never saw the growling and stuff myself so almost thought they were exagerating, but one day showed up to get him before they cleaned up the room where he threw chairs everywhere in an unprovoked spazz, it freaked me out because it really did look like a hurricane went in that room, and hard for me to believe when all I have ever seen is this sweet, quiet polite boy...

same with the child mental health worker helping me out. He has only seen the good side of my son too, so here we are looking at the poor school like they are exaggerating or just being lazy to take him back full time.... but I wasn't there so I have to take their word for it.

reply to post by optimus primal


Asking for knowingly unprovideable evidence is trolling.

Comparing cultural practice to virus/drug/adrenaline induced psychoses is trolling.

Now go fetch me my latest medical report off the interwebz pls.

Originally posted by johnnysixguns
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

I would at the very least call the hospital and find out what you were given. There will be a record of it.

If you think you could have a link into this, you should ask yourself questions about where you had traveled or encounters with animals, wildlife, or waste that you may not normally encounter preceding the event.

Though with having a 7 year old, if he was the first to show symptoms, it could have been contracted at school, especially during the holidays (November-Dec.. even as far back as Labor Day), and from there the conclusion could be drawn for the mother to contract it next (more attachment at that age, especially if she was a stay at home mom)

I tried, they claim to have no record of me going in there, because I was wondering if the constant pain in my legs and back since then was in any way related to it... My friends who took me in tried to argue on my behalf and we just gave up.... Same with my hubbies blood and urine tests being fine.... we were in total shock that he was so agressive ans suicidal with no explanation. We tested his thyroid and every single thing possible... all fine apparently.

I never even would have joined this thread until I saw the growling and high temperatures thing, since all three of us were a little bit different.

reply to post by MidnightTide


incorrect miami zombie only had weed in his blood

reply to post by diggsnicca


Not weed, THC leftovers.

Which remain in your bloodstream for about 3 days after use.

ETA: next to that i still have to meet the first person EVER to get agressive from weed (or any other drug for that matter)

Originally posted by mellisamouse

Originally posted by johnnysixguns
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

Well, I think it would be wise to find out more on that topic. I can see reasoning for asking if you had traveled recently, but not necessarily to a specific place, unless there was a known outbreak of a virus there that shows those symptoms.

Was bloodwork done?

No nothing... they got me in right away, which was nice, felt bad for bypassing people with actual injuries, then they herded me in and outta there at lightening speed, no blood work, no follow up, nothing..just asked if I was in the carribean, and gave me the one blue pill with no explanations or advice on how to get beter. was strange. Then their reaction to me a few moths later when we took my hubby in for his blood work was hella weird, like the one guy looked at me and never came back, then they told my hubby to come back in a few days type thing.

His blood work was all fine, once we did go back, and he did the pee in a bottle for 24 hours etc, and our doc said nothing was wrong at all, although we went in there because he was suicidal and freaking out to a point he knew he needed help.

Instead of them helping us we had to ride it out at home with him in a cold shower for days on end... Months later and we are ok, still don't know what the hell was going on, was almost like the shining for a while there.

My son is fine now to, but the school would only let him go back for no more than an hour a day for the last month and a half of school because they were so scared he was gunna freak out again..... they looked through al oif his records and are baffled as nothing led up to it.

We are starting weekly meetings about it again with the child mental health guy and the school board, to try and get them to take him back full time again now that he has been fine for so long. I never saw the growling and stuff myself so almost thought they were exagerating, but one day showed up to get him before they cleaned up the room where he threw chairs everywhere in an unprovoked spazz, it freaked me out because it really did look like a hurricane went in that room, and hard for me to believe when all I have ever seen is this sweet, quiet polite boy...

same with the child mental health worker helping me out. He has only seen the good side of my son too, so here we are looking at the poor school like they are exaggerating or just being lazy to take him back full time.... but I wasn't there so I have to take their word for it.

Everything in that actually sounds pretty standard. There is a saying about the ER which is basically "you don't worry about the person screaming in pain, its the one who is quiet and ashen you need to worry about". You're not just waiting your turn

Storing urine, riding it out, cold shower, etc.. are all standard procedure for viral illness. As I said, you can't treat a virus with antibiotics, it just runs its course while you treat the symptoms. Also, if your husband had that high of a fever, it could have been delusional/hallucinating something, as that is something that can occur with extremely high fevers. Sorry if that took the wind out of you possibly being immune, or thinking you may have had it.

I am not a psychiatrist, so I don't feel comfortable commenting on the behavior of your child. I have two of my own, and that does sound extreme, though I also know kids act irrational often.

I would like to know what that blue pill is, though.

Originally posted by johnnysixguns
reply to post by optimus primal

 

I don't say you're trolling because you disagree. I say you are trolling because you are reaching more than some of the other people in this thread to draw conclusions for your doubt, while at the same time patronizing with your admission you may be wrong.

I don't even believe everything in this thread. But I am being critical enough in my thinking to see what dots can be connected and what can't.

Furthermore - No, there were no drugs in Rudy Eugene's system. THC metabolites? Yes. That does not prove he was under the influence. As I also stated, I would like to know what the unidentified pills were. Find out they're an antacid, and that begs to ask more questions.

And I don't even know where you pulled that line about how seppuku is performed. Because you are entirely wrong on that count.

seppuku

clearly you are the one wrong.

i'm reaching by being skeptical of a genetically engineered rabies virus, when most of the cases linked aren't even related to psychos trying to bite people? please.

i think i'm done posting in this thread. clearly you want consensus rather than debate. that's fine, just remember, it doesn't mean you're right

Originally posted by johnnysixguns
reply to post by knoledgeispower

 

I think you're intentionally overlooking the line that is being drawn between a number of the attacks, and focusing on the few that do not meet what you're looking for. And yes, I am aware of Occam's Razor, but that is not the same as what is going on here, IMO.

I even think it would be better to refine that list, and broaden it with violent attacks that involved nudity, delusion, and enhanced strength. Not every virus or bacterial infection will always exhibit the exact same symptoms in a person, not to mention that people can carry a virus and be entirely asymptomatic.

No I'm saying that I don't think that this is the case. That is some virus that the government has unleashed. While yes that is a possible scenario, I don't think that this is what that is.

I think Ben10, and a lot of other people, have been overwhelmed in the journey of becoming aware of the real state of the world and are seeing conspiracies where there are none. We must remember to take a break now and then when taking in all this overwhelming knowledge when we've been raised on lies.

reply to post by knoledgeispower


I myself have taken a step back already because i felt i got sucked in to it too much. I've become more skeptical. (hell i even believed in Nibiru in the beginning lolz)

Though this theory just seems very plausible to me.

As i said before, i'd rather be aware and proven wrong then stick my head in the sand.

Originally posted by Romekje
reply to post by diggsnicca

 

Not weed, THC leftovers.

Which remain in your bloodstream for about 3 days after use.

ETA: next to that i still have to meet the first person EVER to get agressive from weed (or any other drug for that matter)

edit on 3/7/12 by Romekje because: (no reason given)

Aggressive from weed? If someone is getting aggressive from marijuana it clearly has been messed with.
The most you get from people who smoke marijuana is an increase in appetite, calmness/lazyness. Marijuana is of the sedative classification of drugs not a stimulant drug.

reply to post by knoledgeispower


No need to tell me, check my location

reply to post by mellisamouse


Were you and your husband having the same symptoms? Fever? The lower-body aches and pains are also extremely common with a high fever (really, any aches and pains are, but those are areas that are commonly mentioned).

Did they give you paperwork when you left? If anyone will have record of your visit, it is your insurance agency.

One thing I could consider is that if your husband/yourself were having suicidal ideation and "freaking out", the "blue pill" could have been some kind of anti-anxiety medication or possibly a benzodiazepine to calm him. That is also common.

reply to post by johnnysixguns


Are you a doctor of some kind? You sure sound like one.

Medical student?

Originally posted by Romekje
reply to post by knoledgeispower

 

I myself have taken a step back already because i felt i got sucked in to it too much. I've become more skeptical. (hell i even believed in Nibiru in the beginning lolz)

Though this theorie just seems very plausible to me.

As i said before, i'd rather be aware and proven wrong then stick my head in the sand.

I've been taking the slow learning approach. My boyfriend I started seeing last year started making me aware of the real world and since then I've been slowly learning more. I'm just getting in the corruption of religion and exploring spirituality.

It really wouldn't surprise me if the government were releasing viruses into the public in order to depopulate and purify the remaining people to be the strong, but I don't think this one is it.

Originally posted by optimus primal

Originally posted by johnnysixguns
reply to post by optimus primal

 

I don't say you're trolling because you disagree. I say you are trolling because you are reaching more than some of the other people in this thread to draw conclusions for your doubt, while at the same time patronizing with your admission you may be wrong.

I don't even believe everything in this thread. But I am being critical enough in my thinking to see what dots can be connected and what can't.

Furthermore - No, there were no drugs in Rudy Eugene's system. THC metabolites? Yes. That does not prove he was under the influence. As I also stated, I would like to know what the unidentified pills were. Find out they're an antacid, and that begs to ask more questions.

And I don't even know where you pulled that line about how seppuku is performed. Because you are entirely wrong on that count.

seppuku

clearly you are the one wrong.

i'm reaching by being skeptical of a genetically engineered rabies virus, when most of the cases linked aren't even related to psychos trying to bite people? please.

i think i'm done posting in this thread. clearly you want consensus rather than debate. that's fine, just remember, it doesn't mean you're right

In the first line of what you reference it says there were various ways of doing it throughout time. It even lists them. Not one of those ways is "a series of deep cuts across the abdomen".

With that, I may be 50% correct, but you are 100% wrong.