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Originally posted by JakiusFogg
To be glad I am just happy that the mainstream is now saying and accepting in general the things we have been saying since 2008. OK it's taken 4 years, but the majority are now waking up to the fiat system in all it's corrupt glory. if it spreads awareness great. one up for Baldrick I say. Good on him!
Originally posted by JailTales
2 pages in and not one utterance of a cunning plan? Don't tell me the bankers have stolen our sense of humour too?
As I said, I in no way defend the banks taking advantage of our stupidity, I wasnt being sarcastic or ironic when I said "string them up, they deserve it"
Is it ignorance or greed that that forces people to buy the lates flat screen, games console, smart phone..etc?
Was it necessity or avarice that forced people to take a mortgage instead of council homes?
I understand, we all want to better ourselves, and we were sold the con that we could have whatever we wanted. Could we afford it? should we live within our means or try and better our position so we could afford it?
My parents...and depending on your age, probably yours as well, only ever had one debt...the mortgage
As I said, I have no love for the banking establishment, they have taken full advantage of our eagerness to climb into debt.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by idmonster
But if we don't buy these things the economy stagnates - or stays flat or something like that.
And it's the constant bombardment from marketing and advertising through MSM who are all in it with the bankers and career politicians etc.
Not at all, it was necessity as there simply isn't anywhere near enough affordable housing.
After the great council house sell off very few council houses have been built - the basic law of supply and demand caused private housing prices to hyper inflate - and record repossessions and large debt resulted.
But that's the dream Thatcher forced on everyone and every single Prime Minister since has re-inforced it.
Saving was very much something other people did.
That eagerness was fuelled by those who sought to exploit it for their own personal greed and avarice.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Zngland
Renting private property can be more expensive than getting a mortgage because lenders are very reluctant to offer mortgages at present so again, supply and demand.