Tony Robinson calls out British banking system. Must Watch. "Not Even Human"

Originally posted by Lightbringer38

Originally posted by 303inMyBrain

S & F for bringing this to ATS.

Tony telling it like it is.
His words definitely ring true in my ears.
I'm hoping too, this gets a lot of coverage in the mainstream & here.

Igniting people into action that we can do something about these leeches once & for all.

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Agreed it does seem like more and more people are speaking up.. Perhaps something is brewing,,

Yes I puts a smile on my face.

Yesterday I took the bus home. Sat behinde the driver and a student. Quess what they where talking about, ,, Yes the banking system and corrupt goverments. I am not crazy yes, people of mainstreet are waking upwww.smilys.net...

That was one of the best speeches I have heard about banksters in a long time. good post.

reply to post by Lightbringer38


Excellent post, Lightbringer, Tony Robinson for Prime Minister !

Time for a change in the way business and politics are run, especially their cosy little relationship.

The " Ducking stool " or " Disembowelment " for corrupt bankers and bring back Guy Fawkes for a second go at the Houses of Parliament !

There, that made me feel better, at least...

Of course the majority of us agree with Tony's sentiments, but, life will go on as normal, nothing will change...

Because to do what needs doing would be seen as anarchic, and justify a suitable state response...

Its not just the banks in England. This is a worldwide issue as we all know. Tony Robinson to his credit got on national television and slammed the banks. Not many people have the balls to do that. He himself would either have a mortgage or certainly investments tied up with a bank somewhere.
Its people in the media that needs to stand up and say their peace. Us normal punters can rant and rave all we like
but there's little we can do. I work a 40 hour week and my wage goes straight into a bank, I have no say in that.
And they charge me fees to keep my money safe, while investing in who knows what.
At the end of the day, its big business that got in bed with the bankers and the governments of the world are all involved.
I've had small businesses and had to close down because the banks wouldn't loan me money to upgrade even though I had the clientele. They saw me as a risk. So now I am back working for a large corporation.
Its a vicious circle.

So you are unhappy with those pesky banks? Well, could it be that banks have taken over the system because people are relying too much on loans and not on actual work or savings. ( Creating imaginary purchasing power from collateral loans). Why is it that people are unable to save or that savings don`t matter because of constant fall of purchasing power of the currency?
1. If people can`t save, it means one thing , their income is not high enough. Why isn`t it high enough? Because there are no enough meaningful, skilled, high added value jobs out there. Why are there no such jobs?
a. Dilapidated expertise.
b. Unobstructed outsourcing.
c. Insufficient skill level.( in-house engineering !!!!!!! )
d. Lack of diversity in products.
e. Subpar fit and finish, obsoletness.
f. Rebadging, imitation of expertise, borrowing of complex components.
g. May I say greed? ( resulting in anorexia in overhaul of products and investment in R&D)

2. Why should an enterpreneur choose to manufacture anything , if taxation for example for ( late) Delphi Automotive is the same as for a pawn shop? Guess, which of these 2 would involve highly skilled and paid workforce? Guess which of these would result in people actually saving money, and which of these would most likely involve workforce resorting to loans?

3. Catch 22 . By march of service sector and zapping out of manufacturing sector we have eliminated a necessity to pay high salaries . (A wallmartian salesclerk 8.50 an hour versus a GM type technician of 35 reeboks an hour.) Then these droves of people take out loans from the carnucopia of Fed`s imaginary supply pool, creating borrowed value from future, with doubtable accountability in the present. By taking loans , prices crawl up, which destroys the principle of savings- stable, constant long -term purchasing power. To catch up with soaring prices , loans must be restructured injecting even more imaginary value. Especially if your mortgage house is used as a collateral for taking even more loans, implying `unearned`, imaginary credit, which takes value by diluting the parity of those who are actually savers. This leads to savers giving up. Banks step in even more. Should I continue? ( Don`t start with cheaper labour abroad, it is just one side of the coin).

4. Unprotected ravaging of indispensable items & services market. The purchasing power of any worker is scalpeled out by increasing prices in sectors where a person doesn`t have a choice to find a substitute for a product or refuse from the product if price was considered too high. Some examples- car insurance, medicine, education, utilites. these sectors wipe out any chance for savings, as they exploit inability of people to refuse the product or service. Competition( productive) exists only in segments of products and services that have substitutes or are not indispensable. The lack of governement input to strictly control pricing in such segments has resulted in huge wipeout of savings. Need more points?

reply to post by detachedindividual


yeah but do you really think that if people go into the banks that they're gonna find the rothschilds or whoever standing behind the counter or even in the head office?

no. you'll just end up grabbing some middle class banking manager or teller, and what good will that do anyone?

the rothschilds and those of their status, won't be there when you riot/revolt, they'll have already skipped the country. Anyone who's left for people to get at, is by definition, gonna be a scapegoat left behind.

Do you guys get that?

How is this revolt gonna work if you can't even get to those responsible becuz they're hiding out on a private island somewhere, which is where they WILL be if they have any real stroke or power.

They will know you're gonna riot at about the same time you do, and they'll be gone.

It's even in the protocols of zion. they say there: (paraphrasing) : but ours they shall not touch, because the moment of the uprising will be known to us, and we will take measures to protect our own.

So just reminding you. Anyone left behind for you to capture, is by definition, not really the ones you want.

If they can befuddle you and confuse you, they will always rule you. If you can't track down the true sources of power, they're always gonna be able to manipulate you by giving you scapegoats...

anyway. just saying.

the crowds won't care tho. ....

The problems with the Banking system is that they are too big to fail,the quasi State and independent relationship
between the Fed and Govt. the Banks being in a privilege position are able to privatize profits and socialize losses.

They are basically utilities and hence need to be treated as such. Finally if the Govt is viewed as omniscient why does it borrow from the Fed instead of just issuing its' own debt free money with inflation curtailing limits.

This final point is the elephant in the room imho it's the real reason the Banks take more from the economy then they contribute.

And Tim Robbins logic is flawed his argument is a red herring

When I started reading this thread, I had visions of Tony Robinson doing his 'Time Team' program looking around for the missing bankers money.

Then low and behold his team digs an excavation pit and finds the bankers missing billions. he he

Now that would be a good plot for some 'Time Team' comedy.

I know it's a serious subject but lets be honest what can we do about it ?
We have to go to work to feed and clothe our families.

Having a mere 'peasants revolt' will only make innocent people suffer in the short term and then there is no guarantee the longer term would be any better.

so if a nation wide revolt kicked off and the bankers shat themselves and left, what do we replace the banking sector with ?

reply to post by diddy1234



The People who are the Govt would take control of their own money supply and new banks would emerge serving the economy if profitable, and possibly new 'digital' forms of money payment systems may involve if allowed.

That wouldn't work.

The government can't even control the economy properly let alone manage their own accounts.

This lot that are in power now initially talk tough, then go into meetings and afterwards back track.

prime example, was Camerwrong stating that he was going to get the energy companies to reduce their costs to the public and then after the meeting saying that everyone needs to better insulate their houses.

yeh thanks for that one.
what a tosser

The public might get a little upset and agree with what Tony has spoke about but then it will be back to work as usual with worry and fear and within in a month of their lives they will have all forgotten about it.

?I mean how many of the general public will actually do their own in depth research investigation into this to find out the truth of how far this conspiracy goes back in time and history.

The entire membership of ATS who are more aware of the truth about the conspiracies that bind are but a tiny percentage compared to the billions who scoff and mock such knowledge. And as you know the majority are the ones who are always in the right, are sensible and know what is best and correct for a more comfortable life.

The general public have been spoon fed this poison for so long that if they stop taking it they will become lost and die. And that is the shameful fact of it.

reply to post by diddy1234


Sure , Govts tend to be crap but issuing and having sole control of the money supply breaks the link between Govt bonds and The Capital holders which means they can't hoard all the wealth in govt bonds and have to put it to work.

The only problem is them debasing the currency by increasing the money supply above economic growth.

reply to post by Lightbringer38


S&F

If only more people with clout or national / international media presence would speak up with such vim and vigour, the rest of the population might follow and actually do something constructive about the injustices of society and mske the world a better place.

You know what we need to sort this out don't you?.
Another mahoosive public inquiry that will cost the tax payer another squillion quids, whilst the knobs smooze and give their pre prepared bull# designed to satisfy the jeering crowd. The next crusty judge in line for retirement will get wheeled out to oversee the proceedings whilst dribbling into his robes.

Something will be seen to be done, crusty judge gets his fat retirement cheque whilst actually nothing will be done because THEY don't want the system changed. Tax payer get's ripped off again.

But yeah that's what they all want you to want, isn't it?

Originally posted by diddy1234
When I started reading this thread, I had visions of Tony Robinson doing his 'Time Team' program looking around for the missing bankers money.

Then low and behold his team digs an excavation pit and finds the bankers missing billions. he he

Now that would be a good plot for some 'Time Team' comedy.

I know it's a serious subject but lets be honest what can we do about it ?
We have to go to work to feed and clothe our families.

Having a mere 'peasants revolt' will only make innocent people suffer in the short term and then there is no guarantee the longer term would be any better.

so if a nation wide revolt kicked off and the bankers shat themselves and left, what do we replace the banking sector with ?

I liked Tony's speech but I was hoping after all that he was going to say he had a cunning plan

In all serousness, I think Tony expressed what many people feel now in this country but what is our cunning plan? I think the politicians look down on someone like Tony because he's just an actor, what does he know, the same way they look down on us even though they are the second biggest cock up merchants next to the bankers. It feels to me that there was a plan to push us to revolt, so unless we come up with a better solution this is going to get messy.

Originally posted by rapunzel222
reply to post by detachedindividual

 

yeah but do you really think that if people go into the banks that they're gonna find the rothschilds or whoever standing behind the counter or even in the head office?

no. you'll just end up grabbing some middle class banking manager or teller, and what good will that do anyone

Of course I agree with you.

The people will not see it this way. The brand and the building will be the focus of anger. Most people don't know who the Rothschilds are, and there is no clear link that I am aware of between that family and the major British banks - we know they exist, but where?

As far as the people are concerned, the banks themselves, the top staff, the police and the government are all responsible for this, they will all be the target of any direct action should it happen - which I think is now inevitable unless the police round up all the senior staff of these banks and charge them with fraud. I don't see that happening.

If I worked in one of those banks in London I would be paying attention to the murmurs of protests coming up, and on that day I would be calling in sick and joining the protest too. That is the right of all those staff, if they choose to go to work on that day, they are idiots.

I said in another thread recently that I didn't see a violent riot or protest on the horizon, but last night I watched a short film in which rioters were anonymously interviewed and they all said that they would do it again. It was the result of research done after the riots and something like 30% of all those charged admitted that they would do it again, and most of them expressed rage toward the police and government.

When this LIBOR scandal started anger was directed at the banksters responsible. But every day that passes without action being taken to charge and prosecute those responsible the anger is being spread between the banksters, the government and the police too. If they don't act now to stop this massive decline in trust and respect I don't think the people will accept anything less than a complete overthrow of corrupt government, and they'll take out those banksters in the process too.

The government is severely underestimating the fury people have, the longer they are seen to be harboring criminals who have acted against the citizens of this country the deeper the hole gets. And we haven't even scratched the surface of the LIBOR scandal yet either. There are more banks involved and more corruption and fraud to be exposed in the coming weeks and months.

It will certainly be interesting to see what happens at the next large protest in London. If the fraudsters in government and banking have not been held to account for their actions I believe we'll see the start of something massive.

reply to post by Suspiria


Yep totally agree every time a scandal breaks an "inquiry" is soon to follow with my eyes rolling like marbles down a steep hill.
My question is - Why is it that the Lawyers always seem to benefit no matter what? This is a scandal in it's own right could it be that our parliament is full of solicitors?

We need more of a mixture of talents amongst our politicians from Farmers to Engineers - Doctors even anything but damn lawyers everywhere.

Maybe we should have some more simplistic tests for these people before they are let in to seats of power
for example - Can you wire a simple household plug? No? Haven't a clue? Then your not being the Science minister then.... (etc).

I know this is a crass and simplistic point but it seems we have more than enough Lawyers in parliament as it is and not enough of everyone else.
Maybe we need an inquiry.......

reply to post by Future1


That would not work.

If you can wire a mains plug then you have two working brain cells and therefore unlikely be brought out by oil or banking companies.

The real powers that be want dumbed down idiot's to be voted in as they are easy to control.
Unfortunately the amount of dumbed down drivel educated at school these days only serves to bread the thick barstewards !

reply to post by detachedindividual


I wonder how powerful the Rothschilds actually are these days? The reason i say this is because i was reading something at the weekend and it included the info that the senior Rothschild (can't remember his name) these days is worth around £1.5 Billion. Obviously, that is a huge amount of money but it really is peanuts compared to some of the super wealthy.......

Perhaps they aren't the ones in control?

ETA:

Definitely NOT defending the Rothschilds, bankers, etc. I was simply surprised by the amount of wealth - i assumed far far more.

reply to post by diddy1234


Your right it would not work! I shudder to think how the average career politician views the world and how it works maybe it all seems like magic to them.