Kid Attacked in School By Teacher Making $95,202 a year

Originally posted by kazanoom

Originally posted by lordbayfin
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Am I kidding are you ?
This is about competence you say ?

This is about school safety .SCHOOL SAFETY . The KID wait the TEENAGE MALE avoided the METAL detector and refused to walk though it . The adult all have the safety of the school and other Teenagers in mind.
A) Refusal to walk though a metal in any school in nyc you can not go to class.
B) The child insists on disobey and may as well be carrying something Dangerous that may harm other students or a teacher.
C) No one knows why the kid had issues with not walking though the MD he does not have any learning disabilities. (SO that is not the case)

I am not promoting a political view in any where of my discussion (insult). I am promoting DENY IGNORANCE which surly you didn't notice was this WEBSITES main calling but more and more this website is a breeding grond to promote FAR LEFT OR FAR Right .

Hey you are the one who made the Fox news comment. The situation could have been easily and peacefully resolved. It's called respect, something these kids get zero of and when they do they comply civilly. And watch the video again.

These "kids" GIVE no respect....to anyone!! And you're wanting people to give them respect????
come on already!!! The kid was a threat to school safety, the DEAN of SECURITY addressed him, he started swinging and flailing all over the place. ....and you wan to give him respect???

A good butt whooping would be more appropriate! He wasn't flailed around, he was doing the flailing and they were trying to subdue him, as is the JOB of the Dean of Security. The kid wasn't the victim here, he was the aggressor.

It the adult had actually wanted to hurt him, ONE PUNCH would have knocked him out. That clearly wasn't the motive at all.

Of course, you would rather they allow him to take a handgun into the school and shoot a dozen other students and teachers? Give him a little respect and let him go on his shooting rampage, he's "just a kid" afterall...he'd probably miss half the shots he took and would only kill a handfull of other people, but at least he got respect.....

The kid got what he deserved and probably deserved much worse.

Originally posted by SearchLightsInc

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Yeah, violent kids get to be free while innocent people have to put bars on their windows and wear bullet proof jackets to be safe.

I still applaud this teacher. He did the right thing.

So discipline kids properly then, there's no reason for people to be living in fear. And there's certainly no reason why this man should be pushing this kid around. He could be anyone yano, i wouldn't prize him as perfect.

The problem is, the kid wasn't raised properly and was a threat to the safety of the school. There was a definite reason the man did what he did, he was the Dean of Security and there was a threat to school security.

Originally posted by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld

Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
Looks like the kid said something while walking away, so the teacher grabbed him and pulled him back to confront him, then the kid swung at his head which pissed him off. I assume whatever he might have said was pretty bad to ignite that kind of hostility.

weather the kid said something or not he's an adult/teacher, he should have never put hands on the kid in the first place.
he acted like a security guard in a club trying to throw out an obnoxious drunk.

He WAS the security guard. He's the DEAN OF SECURITY, not a teacher. Do a quick google search, the article LIED.

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How can you know how the kid was raised base on just a few minutes of video?

Perhaps the kid was just having a bad day and things just got out of hand.

He could normally be a respectful kind of guy.

Did you even watch the video?

Edit:

And you know what, I find that the "blame the parent" attitude is just more scapegoating. Many times kids will go bad no matter what the parent tries to teach them.

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by PurpleChiten

 

How can you know how the kid was raised base on just a few minutes of video?

Perhaps the kid was just having a bad day and things just got out of hand.

He could normally be a respectful kind of guy.

Did you even watch the video?

Edit:

And you know what, I find that the "blame the parent" attitude is just more scapegoating. Many times kids will go bad no matter what the parent tries to teach them.

edit on 1-7-2012 by EvilSadamClone because: (no reason given)

In response to the poster claiming he was an innocent angel, giving the possible alternative

Originally posted by PurpleChiten

These "kids" GIVE no respect....to anyone!! And you're wanting people to give them respect????

So violence is just returning disrespect?
And violence toward a child is the appropriate response to feeling "dissed?"

You know it's rude to respond to a question with a question.

Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by OUTofSTEPwithTHEworld

Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
Looks like the kid said something while walking away, so the teacher grabbed him and pulled him back to confront him, then the kid swung at his head which pissed him off. I assume whatever he might have said was pretty bad to ignite that kind of hostility.

weather the kid said something or not he's an adult/teacher, he should have never put hands on the kid in the first place.
he acted like a security guard in a club trying to throw out an obnoxious drunk.

He WAS the security guard. He's the DEAN OF SECURITY, not a teacher. Do a quick google search, the article LIED.

well in that case i myself failed to do my research and thank you for the heads up and, im not being sarcastic

Originally posted by habitforming

Originally posted by article
I also feel that if you're incapable of raising a child, you should offer it up to those that can do so, but the choice should be only mother AND father. Making something easy to do is also promoting that same thing, wouldnt you say? If I offer you a free bottle of water, would I be promoting that water, lable or bottle? Sure.

What planet are you from?
That is how things are now.
There are lots of children that are being raised by the state because not enough people want to adopt these kids. This is not a novel idea you just came up with, it is what adoption is all about.

I wasnt stating it as though it was something that came off the top of my head. Where did you learn to read? See what I did there?

I was stating where I stood on the issue, personaly. Not that it was a novel idea... Grow a lil and take posts for what they're for, dont pull your own spin out of it for your own kicks, buddy boy.

Originally posted by habitforming

Originally posted by article
I mentioned that in my responce. But I totaly agree ignorance is a virus.

you mentioned it in your response and you agree totally that ignorance is a virus? Good. Then you can explain to me why you would bother mentioning adoption after screaming about Ghandi II being aborted when I clearly listed them as two different options.

How many children have you adopted so far?

you're making no sense. none what so ever.

Killing an unborn child ... let me do this sloooooowly.

You could potentually be killing a child that could have grown into a leader, or someone great.

Get that? No? Reread till you do.

Instead of killing a child because you feel the parent isnt worthy... and who are you to judge, I might ask, adoption is the best alternative. Simply put.

There was no other hidden secret meanings, no in between the lines... Just regular old "this is what I said and this is what I meant".



btw, i dont need to adopt. If I didnt have children, I would. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. Personaly I see the biggest issue is with CHILDREN who have children. So, at 25 you think you have it figured out? Not even close. We learn till we die. I'm near my 50s and I still learn something new every day.

Now.. For a child to tell me how adoptions, abortions, whatever should be done... Sorry while I laugh till my side bursts and I bleed out all over in deathly humor.

Yes, experiance and age is still an important factor when making descisions.

(watch someone say something akin to ... but but but old people are dumb too...) once again... The basis for my posts... I dont speak secrets. I say what I say damn plainly.

PurpleChiten are you a paid shill?

Originally posted by Strainz
PurpleChiten are you a paid shill?

Nope. Are you?

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Just seems your entire goal is to encourage and justify child abuse by misleading and distracting people from the direct issue. For example, it doesn't matter if he was a teacher, in fact as he wasn't that makes it worse and assault.

Originally posted by habitforming

Originally posted by PurpleChiten

These "kids" GIVE no respect....to anyone!! And you're wanting people to give them respect????

So violence is just returning disrespect?
And violence toward a child is the appropriate response to feeling "dissed?"

Nope, but discipline is the appropriate response to misbehavior when other methods don't work.
A good spanking isn't violence, it's discipline. It should be used much more often then it is.

It's the group of people who think that any form of discipline is equivalent to violence or abuse that are the problem. A spanking is not going to damage a child for life and will actually help them to learn that there are consequences for misbehavior.

Children don't understand abstract ideas, which you would be aware of if you have studied human growth and development. They don't have the cerebral ability to comprehend that. They see immediate responses to immediate actions. The responses need to be very literal and feasible for them to grasp the meaning.

A spanking shows them that something was wrong and there was a consequence for it. As they grow, they see that the action of being hurtful to others results in an action that is hurtful to them (not damaging, not scarring, it hurts when their butt is spanked, then they get over it).

It worked well for thousands and thousands of years, then someone came along and said "oh, not, that's abusive and violent, we can't do that", so now we have kids joining gangs at the age of 8, we have kids who kill people, we have kids that aren't able to function in society. That's the result of this insane concept and it will continue being the result.

Spank their backside, tell them why, move on. For those who want to appeal to Christianity.... spare the rod, spoil the child. Train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Originally posted by Strainz
reply to post by PurpleChiten

 

Just seems your entire goal is to encourage and justify child abuse by misleading and distracting people from the direct issue. For example, it doesn't matter if he was a teacher, in fact as he wasn't that makes it worse and assault.

Discipline is NOT abuse. LACK of discipline is abuse.

reply to post by PurpleChiten


This thread clearly shows more than just spanking, don't you think?

reply to post by PurpleChiten


The head of security shown in the footage did not discipline the child, he assaulted the child. Don't go off topic to approve physical violence. Okay.

reply to post by Strainz


You are not the thread police. He has not been off topic.

reply to post by EvilSadamClone


The topic is about the footage of the child being assaulted is it not? And within this video it shows a full grown man using excessive force to subdue a child that clearly did not start any physical confrontation.

Reading through the thread you can see that PurpleChiten has taken it upon him/herself to justify this abuse. How may I ask? Using a more appropriate retort, by straying from the situation tying in physical discipline as a justification, which in this case is not present within the video.

Straying is probably the better word to use and physical discipline has nothing to do with this thread.

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by Strainz

 

You are not the thread police. He has not been off topic.

I am not intending to be the thread police, I just find it odd that PurpleChiten would associate excessive force with discipline. Does his statements condone the extent of the physical force used in this video as an appropriate and accurate means for discipline?